Mind Control Power question

spookyspectre

Does anyone know if the purchasable power: Mind Control can be affected or improved by any stats, powers or specializations? It looks like it's labelled as a curse, so may proc the Conjuring unlock. And it looks like it doesn't interact with Manipulator.

theravenforce

It is correctly labelled as a "CURSE". Take that how you will.

Mind Control (and in turn Corruption effects) cannot be improved, modified or anything else via any in game statistic or specialization.

During design this was pointed out but this was ignored, so it does not really serve any purpose.

It's also the only power (Telepathy Power I might add) in Champions Online which is locked behind a direct purchase in the Z Store.

criswolf09

Somewhere I read the devs intended to make it compatible with Manipulator but this hasn't happened yet and I doubt it will.​​

pwestolemyname

criswolf09 said:

Somewhere I read the devs intended to make it compatible with Manipulator but this hasn't happened yet and I doubt it will.​​

Would still be worthless. Manipulator is so easy to build, adding one long-CD power to the powers that do so would make no difference whatsoever.

roughbearmattach

I have a couple toons with Manipulator. If you have a stun power you rotate through a combat, Manipulator is easy to stack and maintain.

For both my manipulative toons, Psionic Accelerator is part of their attack power rotation, and it triggers Manipulator, too. That plus TK Maelstrom (which stuns even on tap) gets me to 8 stacks in a minute or so, and maintains 8 stacks. This toon can solo farm QWZ, using stuns, paralyzes, and sleeps.

ogremindes

gradii said:

roughbearmattach said:

I have a couple toons with Manipulator. If you have a stun power you rotate through a combat, Manipulator is easy to stack and maintain.

For both my manipulative toons, Psionic Accelerator is part of their attack power rotation, and it triggers Manipulator, too. That plus TK Maelstrom (which stuns even on tap) gets me to 8 stacks in a minute or so, and maintains 8 stacks. This toon can solo farm QWZ, using stuns, paralyzes, and sleeps.

Unless they fixed it manipulator will only stack if the stun is actually applied. which means it wont stack at all if the target is immune.

I'm pretty sure that's not the case. I mean, I haven't really checked per se but I think I would've noticed if my energy gains suddenly tanked in boss fights.

The way that particular change to Manip was described in the patch notes made it sound like immunity would shut it down, but I'm pretty sure that it just means that powers with a chance to proc a control effect only trigger Manip when that proc happens (which is independent of immunity). Before, Manipulator only checked if a power was flagged as a crowd control power, not if a control effect was actually being used.

roughbearmattach

Just tested with Eldritch Bolts energy builder w/adv. Stuns proc Manip, even on stun-immune bosses.

flowcyto

Yea, Manip stacks on successful CC attempt, and regardless of whether the CC effect can actually work on the target or not- so it can stack vs. bosses or CC immune targets just fine.

flowcyto

*shrug* Seems to be working against CC immune targets for me.

theravenforce

Manipulator has always stacked against CC immune targets, I would hope not even now, Manipulator would be made totally useless ().

There is a noticeable delay in stacking at times due to the 4 second internal cooldown, so you have to carefully cycle your CC abilities if you aren't stunlocking etc.