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chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
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I go to log into sto to send someone stuff, lose connection to patchserver. retry, get in and with a few minutes... dc. lost connection to patchserver. see first tracert.
go into CO, same thign.see second tracert.
Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

2 22 ms 20 ms 21 ms 172.18.216.1
3 21 ms 20 ms 61 ms 172.18.73.57
4 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms bundle-ether4.wel-edge901.perth.telstra.net [203.50.112.50]
5 23 ms 69 ms 21 ms bundle-ether6.wel-core3.perth.telstra.net [203.50.6.214]
6 51 ms 50 ms 49 ms bundle-ether7.fli-core1.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.18]
7 58 ms 60 ms 59 ms bundle-ether9.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.91]
8 69 ms 69 ms 70 ms bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.122]
9 69 ms 70 ms 69 ms bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.61]
10 69 ms 70 ms 69 ms bundle-ether1.sydp-core04.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.90]
11 219 ms 218 ms 218 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net [202.84.137.101]
12 213 ms 215 ms 213 ms i-0-5-0-1.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.253.6]
13 212 ms 211 ms 211 ms be4637.ccr41.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.133]
14 212 ms 213 ms 212 ms be3032.ccr21.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.31.53]
15 223 ms 223 ms 223 ms be2931.ccr21.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.85]
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 277 ms 278 ms 279 ms be2807.ccr42.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.109]
21 284 ms 283 ms 284 ms be2096.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.42]
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 283 ms 284 ms 284 ms 38.111.40.114
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 284 ms 283 ms 283 ms xboxpatchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

Trace complete.



Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
over a maximum of 30 hops:


2 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms 172.18.216.1
3 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 172.18.73.57
4 21 ms 21 ms 22 ms bundle-ether4.wel-edge901.perth.telstra.net [203.50.112.50]
5 25 ms 24 ms 22 ms bundle-ether6.wel-core3.perth.telstra.net [203.50.6.214]
6 52 ms 50 ms 49 ms bundle-ether7.fli-core1.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.18]
7 58 ms 57 ms 59 ms bundle-ether9.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.91]
8 68 ms 69 ms 71 ms bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.122]
9 69 ms 71 ms 68 ms bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.61]
10 70 ms 70 ms 70 ms bundle-ether1.sydp-core04.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.90]
11 215 ms 218 ms 217 ms i-12.paix-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.136.194]
12 214 ms 214 ms 214 ms i-0-5-0-2.paix02.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.114]
13 276 ms 277 ms 277 ms liberty_global-peer.eqnx03.pr.telstraglobal.net [134.159.63.85]
14 272 ms 273 ms 272 ms be2016.ccr22.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.177]
15 293 ms 293 ms * be3110.ccr21.slc01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.142]
16 297 ms 298 ms 298 ms be3037.ccr21.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.41.146]
17 310 ms 309 ms 310 ms be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.90]
18 344 ms 344 ms 344 ms be2831.ccr41.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.166]
19 350 ms 351 ms 351 ms be2717.ccr21.cle04.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.222]
20 345 ms 345 ms 345 ms be2878.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.26.130]
21 277 ms 278 ms 278 ms be2299.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.9]
22 278 ms 278 ms 277 ms te0-0-1-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.134]
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.
sigh..​​
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    jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    Send your tracert results to your ISP and ask them to change the route to cryptic's servers.
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    chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    sent them a message, whether they'll do anythign is another matter.
    and here we have another, nearly the same time
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.14393]
    (c) 2016 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    2 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 172.18.216.1
    3 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 172.18.73.57
    4 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms bundle-ether4.wel-edge901.perth.telstra.net [203.50.112.50]
    5 32 ms 23 ms 23 ms bundle-ether6.wel-core3.perth.telstra.net [203.50.6.214]
    6 50 ms 51 ms 50 ms bundle-ether7.fli-core1.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.18]
    7 58 ms 60 ms 60 ms bundle-ether9.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.91]
    8 72 ms 69 ms 70 ms bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.122]
    9 72 ms 73 ms 73 ms bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.61]
    10 72 ms 72 ms 71 ms bundle-ether1.sydp-core04.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.90]
    11 220 ms 221 ms 220 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net [202.84.137.101]
    12 214 ms 217 ms 214 ms i-0-0-0-4.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.206]
    13 221 ms 221 ms 223 ms be4637.ccr41.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.133]
    14 225 ms 252 ms 223 ms be3032.ccr21.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.31.53]
    15 * * * Request timed out.
    16 * * * Request timed out.
    17 266 ms 266 ms 266 ms be2928.ccr22.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.161]
    18 * * * Request timed out.
    19 * * * Request timed out.
    20 282 ms 283 ms 282 ms be2807.ccr42.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.109]
    21 287 ms 287 ms 287 ms be2096.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.42]
    22 289 ms 288 ms 288 ms te0-0-0-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.130]
    23 288 ms 287 ms 287 ms 38.111.40.114
    24 288 ms 287 ms 290 ms 198.49.243.253
    25 * * * Request timed out.
    26 287 ms 287 ms 287 ms patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

    Trace complete.

    C:\Users\Felicity>​​
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    chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    oh and cryptic CS response was, it's your internet. I pointed out, I've playing for 5 years, These are normal numbers and it is ALWAYS a dropout at cogent.
    This only started ,Due to their net streaming argument with someone else.
    and again

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:


    2 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 172.18.216.1
    3 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 172.18.73.61
    4 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms bundle-ether4.wel-edge901.perth.telstra.net [203.50.112.50]
    5 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms bundle-ether6.wel-core3.perth.telstra.net [203.50.6.214]
    6 51 ms 49 ms 50 ms bundle-ether7.fli-core1.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.18]
    7 59 ms 60 ms 59 ms bundle-ether9.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.91]
    8 69 ms 70 ms 70 ms bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.122]
    9 72 ms 73 ms 72 ms bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.61]
    10 73 ms 72 ms 73 ms bundle-ether1.sydp-core04.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.90]
    11 220 ms 221 ms 221 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net [202.84.137.101]
    12 215 ms 215 ms 215 ms i-0-0-0-4.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.206]
    13 215 ms 215 ms 215 ms be4637.ccr41.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.133]
    14 * * * Request timed out.
    15 * * * Request timed out.
    16 * * * Request timed out.
    17 * * * Request timed out.
    18 * 270 ms 271 ms be2690.ccr42.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.28.129]
    19 283 ms 282 ms 283 ms be2113.ccr42.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.221]
    20 * * * Request timed out.
    21 288 ms 287 ms 287 ms be2096.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.42]
    22 291 ms 289 ms 289 ms te0-0-0-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.130]
    23 287 ms 287 ms 287 ms 38.111.40.114
    24 298 ms 288 ms 317 ms 198.49.243.253
    25 * * * Request timed out.This one normally times out, its the old patchserver.
    26 288 ms 288 ms 287 ms patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

    Trace complete.​​
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    nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    chaelk said:

    I go to log into sto to send someone stuff, lose connection to patchserver. retry, get in and with a few minutes... dc. lost connection to patchserver. see first tracert.

    go into CO, same thign.see second tracert.

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

    over a maximum of 30 hops:



    2 22 ms 20 ms 21 ms 172.18.216.1

    3 21 ms 20 ms 61 ms 172.18.73.57

    4 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms bundle-ether4.wel-edge901.perth.telstra.net [203.50.112.50]

    5 23 ms 69 ms 21 ms bundle-ether6.wel-core3.perth.telstra.net [203.50.6.214]

    6 51 ms 50 ms 49 ms bundle-ether7.fli-core1.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.18]

    7 58 ms 60 ms 59 ms bundle-ether9.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.91]

    8 69 ms 69 ms 70 ms bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.122]

    9 69 ms 70 ms 69 ms bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.61]

    10 69 ms 70 ms 69 ms bundle-ether1.sydp-core04.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.90]

    11 219 ms 218 ms 218 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net [202.84.137.101]

    12 213 ms 215 ms 213 ms i-0-5-0-1.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.253.6]

    13 212 ms 211 ms 211 ms be4637.ccr41.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.133]

    14 212 ms 213 ms 212 ms be3032.ccr21.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.31.53]

    15 223 ms 223 ms 223 ms be2931.ccr21.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.85]

    16 * * * Request timed out.

    17 * * * Request timed out.

    18 * * * Request timed out.

    19 * * * Request timed out.

    20 277 ms 278 ms 279 ms be2807.ccr42.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.109]

    21 284 ms 283 ms 284 ms be2096.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.42]

    22 * * * Request timed out.

    23 283 ms 284 ms 284 ms 38.111.40.114

    24 * * * Request timed out.

    25 * * * Request timed out.

    26 284 ms 283 ms 283 ms xboxpatchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]



    Trace complete.







    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

    over a maximum of 30 hops:





    2 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms 172.18.216.1

    3 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 172.18.73.57

    4 21 ms 21 ms 22 ms bundle-ether4.wel-edge901.perth.telstra.net [203.50.112.50]

    5 25 ms 24 ms 22 ms bundle-ether6.wel-core3.perth.telstra.net [203.50.6.214]

    6 52 ms 50 ms 49 ms bundle-ether7.fli-core1.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.18]

    7 58 ms 57 ms 59 ms bundle-ether9.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.91]

    8 68 ms 69 ms 71 ms bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.122]

    9 69 ms 71 ms 68 ms bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.61]

    10 70 ms 70 ms 70 ms bundle-ether1.sydp-core04.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.90]

    11 215 ms 218 ms 217 ms i-12.paix-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.136.194]

    12 214 ms 214 ms 214 ms i-0-5-0-2.paix02.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.114]

    13 276 ms 277 ms 277 ms liberty_global-peer.eqnx03.pr.telstraglobal.net [134.159.63.85]

    14 272 ms 273 ms 272 ms be2016.ccr22.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.177]

    15 293 ms 293 ms * be3110.ccr21.slc01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.142]

    16 297 ms 298 ms 298 ms be3037.ccr21.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.41.146]

    17 310 ms 309 ms 310 ms be3035.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.90]

    18 344 ms 344 ms 344 ms be2831.ccr41.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.166]

    19 350 ms 351 ms 351 ms be2717.ccr21.cle04.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.222]

    20 345 ms 345 ms 345 ms be2878.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.26.130]

    21 277 ms 278 ms 278 ms be2299.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.9]

    22 278 ms 278 ms 277 ms te0-0-1-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.134]

    23 * * * Request timed out.

    24 * * * Request timed out.

    25 * * * Request timed out.

    26 * * * Request timed out.

    27 * * * Request timed out.

    28 * * * Request timed out.

    29 * * * Request timed out.

    30 * * * Request timed out.



    Trace complete.



    sigh..​​
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    decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    "The internet is like a series of tubes..." :p

    But, seriously, I can't give you a point by point, but that's the path through many different servers that your internet signal is traveling. The important part is that it always seems to stop at Cogent, because they play silly buggers with their servers to slow/stop/control the traffic that goes through them (because they want more money).
    'Dec out

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    aiqaaiqa Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    Any router not responding to icmp isn't a problem as long as they do actually route your. So your first, third and fourth trace don't show anything bad.

    If you don't get any response from a certain point onward, that is a problem.
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    kyastralkyastral Posts: 342 Arc User
    decorumfriends said:

    "The internet is like a series of tubes..." :p

    But, seriously, I can't give you a point by point, but that's the path through many different servers that your internet signal is traveling. The important part is that it always seems to stop at Cogent, because they play silly buggers with their servers to slow/stop/control the traffic that goes through them (because they want more money).

    And this is why we want net neutrality..
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    decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    Absolutely.
    'Dec out

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    chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    sent a message to ISP- Telstra.
    today, worked aright this morning, afternoon go to log on and.

    2 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 172.18.217.1
    3 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms 172.18.74.57
    4 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms bundle-ether4.pie-edge901.perth.telstra.net [203.50.112.54]
    5 23 ms 21 ms 21 ms bundle-ether7.wel-core3.perth.telstra.net [203.50.6.190]
    6 52 ms 51 ms 51 ms bundle-ether7.fli-core1.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.18]
    7 62 ms 61 ms 61 ms bundle-ether9.exi-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.93]
    8 70 ms 69 ms 77 ms bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.122]
    9 74 ms 72 ms 73 ms bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.61]
    10 76 ms 72 ms 74 ms bundle-ether1.sydo-core03.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.98]
    11 75 ms 74 ms 75 ms i-0-1-0-17.sydo-core04.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.222.62]
    12 216 ms 214 ms 213 ms i-0-0-0-7.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.230]
    13 211 ms * * i-0-4-0-3.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.246]
    14 * * * Request timed out.
    15 * * * Request timed out.
    16 * * * Request timed out.
    17 * * * Request timed out.
    18 * * * Request timed out.
    19 * * 290 ms be2113.ccr42.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.221]
    20 291 ms 291 ms 291 ms be2807.ccr42.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.109]
    21 288 ms 310 ms 297 ms be2096.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.42]
    22 296 ms 294 ms * be2096.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.42]
    23 * * * Request timed out.
    24 * 295 ms 293 ms 38.111.40.114
    25 * * * Request timed out.
    26 * 281 ms 281 ms xboxpatchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    if they've done something, I think they have actually made it worse.

    Trace complete.​​
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    chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    and again

    2 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 172.18.217.1
    3 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms 172.18.74.61
    4 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms bundle-ether4.wel-edge902.perth.telstra.net [203.50.112.56]
    5 21 ms 24 ms 22 ms bundle-ether6.pie-core1.perth.telstra.net [203.50.6.212]
    6 48 ms 49 ms 49 ms bundle-ether6.way-core4.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.16]
    7 61 ms 59 ms 58 ms bundle-ether9.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.91]
    8 71 ms 73 ms 74 ms bundle-ether12.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.124]
    9 74 ms 75 ms 71 ms bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.61]
    10 75 ms 71 ms 71 ms bundle-ether1.sydp-core04.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.90]
    11 219 ms 75 ms 220 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net [202.84.137.101]
    12 212 ms 214 ms 214 ms i-0-0-0-7.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.230]
    13 * 210 ms 220 ms be4637.ccr41.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.133]
    14 426 ms 218 ms * be4637.ccr41.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.133]
    15 231 ms * 231 ms be2931.ccr21.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.85]
    16 * * 228 ms be2931.ccr21.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.85]
    17 * * * Request timed out.
    18 * 269 ms 260 ms be2928.ccr22.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.161]
    19 266 ms 266 ms * be2690.ccr42.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.28.129]
    20 281 ms 281 ms * be2807.ccr42.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.109]
    21 278 ms 279 ms 279 ms be2807.ccr42.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.109]
    22 284 ms 283 ms 287 ms te0-0-0-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.130]
    23 284 ms 284 ms 284 ms te0-0-0-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.130]
    24 281 ms 282 ms 293 ms 38.111.40.114
    25 * 278 ms * 198.49.243.253
    26 * 282 ms * xboxpatchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]    and the patchserver
    27 278 ms 279 ms 349 ms xboxpatchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]​​
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    chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    get to play for 10minutes, while the most bigoted, egocentric argument is going on in zone. and

    2 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 172.18.217.1
    3 21 ms 22 ms 21 ms 172.18.74.61
    4 22 ms 21 ms 22 ms bundle-ether4.pie-edge901.perth.telstra.net [203.50.112.54]
    5 22 ms 21 ms 23 ms bundle-ether6.pie-core1.perth.telstra.net [203.50.6.212]
    6 50 ms 50 ms 51 ms bundle-ether6.way-core4.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.16]
    7 57 ms 74 ms 60 ms bundle-ether9.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.91]
    8 74 ms 74 ms 70 ms bundle-ether12.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.122]
    9 75 ms 75 ms 71 ms bundle-ether1.pad-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.61]
    10 74 ms 72 ms 74 ms bundle-ether1.sydo-core03.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.98]
    11 218 ms 220 ms 75 ms i-0-1-0-17.sydo-core04.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.222.62]
    12 212 ms 214 ms 214 ms i-0-7-0-4.1wlt-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.144.82]
    13 * 211 ms 212 ms i-0-4-0-3.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.246]
    14 * * * Request timed out.
    15 * * 1423 ms be3032.ccr21.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.31.53]
    16 * 248 ms * be2929.ccr21.elp01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.66]
    17 246 ms 245 ms 245 ms be2929.ccr21.elp01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.66]
    18 280 ms 244 ms 280 ms be2690.ccr42.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.28.129]
    19 277 ms 277 ms 291 ms be2113.ccr42.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.221]
    20 292 ms 292 ms 288 ms be2113.ccr42.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.221]
    21 362 ms 362 ms 362 ms be2096.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.42]
    22 * 359 ms 358 ms te0-0-0-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.130]
    23 349 ms 286 ms 348 ms te0-0-0-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.130]
    24 280 ms 279 ms 279 ms 38.111.40.114
    25 * * 278 ms 198.49.243.253
    26 * 282 ms * patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    27 281 ms 285 ms 281 ms patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

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    spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    Good old Cogent. Only gonna get worse when all the net neutrality stuff gets repealed.
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    darqaura2darqaura2 Posts: 932 Arc User
    kyastral said:

    decorumfriends said:

    "The internet is like a series of tubes..." :p

    But, seriously, I can't give you a point by point, but that's the path through many different servers that your internet signal is traveling. The important part is that it always seems to stop at Cogent, because they play silly buggers with their servers to slow/stop/control the traffic that goes through them (because they want more money).

    And this is why we want net neutrality..
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    chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    kyASTRAL2 wrote: »
    "The internet is like a series of tubes..." :p

    But, seriously, I can't give you a point by point, but that's the path through many different servers that your internet signal is traveling. The important part is that it always seems to stop at Cogent, because they play silly buggers with their servers to slow/stop/control the traffic that goes through them (because they want more money).


    And this is why we want net neutrality..

    qUOTE: Darquara2Come Jan 20th, it'll be a pipe dream sadly. :/

    yes, big business is the most important thing after Jan 20, followed by the rich.​​
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    inspektorherringinspektorherring Posts: 11 Arc User
    I don't even get that far. I just get the little "Trying to update the launcher" window and after a few tries it tells me my internet sucks...

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 192.168.0.1
    2 13 ms 16 ms 19 ms dstr1.m03.au.as58511.net [103.247.3.47]
    3 13 ms 15 ms 17 ms ve1106.bdr1.m03.au.as58511.net [43.225.34.205]
    4 45 ms 39 ms 34 ms ve60.bdr1.m1.au.as58511.net [103.17.220.105]
    5 61 ms 46 ms 45 ms ve38.bdr1.s1.au.as58511.net [103.17.220.46]
    6 199 ms 206 ms 202 ms ve3.bdr1.la1.us.as58511.net [103.247.3.150]
    7 200 ms 205 ms 203 ms ae13-182.cr2-lax2.ip4.gtt.net [173.205.52.201]
    8 203 ms 201 ms 206 ms xe-3-0-3.cr1-lax2.ip4.gtt.net [141.136.106.6]
    9 203 ms 202 ms 203 ms as174.lax21.ip4.gtt.net [173.205.53.114]
    10 204 ms 201 ms 204 ms be2964.ccr21.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.77]
    11 216 ms 213 ms 216 ms be2931.ccr21.phx02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.85]
    12 223 ms 221 ms 222 ms be2929.ccr21.elp01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.66]
    13 235 ms 238 ms 235 ms be2927.ccr41.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.29.221]
    14 252 ms 255 ms 257 ms be2687.ccr41.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.28.69]
    15 266 ms 263 ms 265 ms be2112.ccr41.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.7.157]
    16 270 ms 269 ms 271 ms be2806.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.105]
    17 279 ms 277 ms 278 ms be2094.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.14]
    18 278 ms 277 ms 278 ms te0-0-1-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.134]
    19 276 ms 274 ms 275 ms 38.111.40.114
    20 278 ms 278 ms 279 ms 198.49.243.253
    21 * * * Request timed out.
    22 * * * Request timed out.
    23 * * * Request timed out.
    24 * * * Request timed out.
    25 * * * Request timed out.
    26 * * * Request timed out.
    27 * * * Request timed out.
    28 * * * Request timed out.
    29 * * * Request timed out.
    30 * * * Request timed out.

    Trace complete.
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    chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    in your case, its actually crashed at the third patchserver​​
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    inspektorherringinspektorherring Posts: 11 Arc User
    So I can make it through the internet at large without problems, but then Cryptic does the equivalent of losing my fully completed paperwork?
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    chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    pretty much, if any at Cryptic are going to get me, it'll be the second patchserver, the one before the one which got you.​​
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    inspektorherringinspektorherring Posts: 11 Arc User
    Hm so is there an actual solution or is it just wait for Cryptic and maybe cogent to stop being little bitches?

    I expect CO support will amount to "send us a tracert and buy better internet" so I'm haven't bothered yet.
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    decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    Nothing can be done about Cogent. Cryptic's connection problems are small compared to that one.
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    spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    inspektorherring said:

    Hm so is there an actual solution or is it just wait for Cryptic and maybe cogent to stop being little bitches?

    Not sure what you're waiting for Cryptic to do about this ( they don't control any part of the internet ), but don't hold your breath on Cogent. If anything it's probably gonna get worse.
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    inspektorherringinspektorherring Posts: 11 Arc User
    Based on chaelks comment, we are both getting through cogent somehow but then get lost inside cryptic at various points?
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    spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    Still, what are you waiting for cryptic to do? Whole buttloads of other people aren't having the same problem. If you could elaborate on what you mean by "stop being little bitches" then they could maybe act on your request... unless "being little bitches" is some new technical term associated with information technologies I'm not aware of.
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    chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    it's random lag problems, random times, .Today no problems with dc's. Yesterday...
    best example is 2 people were in the same room playing, one got hit, the other didn't​​
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    jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    inspektorherring said:

    Hm so is there an actual solution or is it just wait for Cryptic and maybe cogent to stop being little bitches?

    I expect CO support will amount to "send us a tracert and buy better internet" so I'm haven't bothered yet.

    The best solution is to contact your ISP, give them your tracert, ping and "ipconfig /all" results, preferbly in txt format. Tell your ISP that you want to change re-route your connection to Cryptic's servers and hopefully bypass Cogent.

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    inspektorherringinspektorherring Posts: 11 Arc User
    jennymachx said:

    inspektorherring said:

    Hm so is there an actual solution or is it just wait for Cryptic and maybe cogent to stop being little bitches?

    I expect CO support will amount to "send us a tracert and buy better internet" so I'm haven't bothered yet.

    The best solution is to contact your ISP, give them your tracert, ping and "ipconfig /all" results, preferbly in txt format. Tell your ISP that you want to change re-route your connection to Cryptic's servers and hopefully bypass Cogent.

    I was about to do that but I ran another tracert and it looks like it has changed itself, is that normal?
    Instead of like 10 steps with cogent it has 5 steps with telia. Then it gets to perfectworld and dies so I'm still not fully sure how this is an internet routing problem.

    I'm not much of a tech guru, but to me if you drive to someones house and the front door is jammed you don't blame the road for not being able to go inside.

    CS did not have much to offer, I don't live in USA so I think they are amazed I ever connected at all :)

    tracert patchserver.crypticstudios.com

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
    2 3 ms 7 ms 6 ms dstr1.m03.au.as58511.net [103.247.3.47]
    3 3 ms 6 ms 3 ms ve1106.bdr1.m03.au.as58511.net [43.225.34.205]
    4 10 ms 4 ms 3 ms ve60.bdr1.m1.au.as58511.net [103.17.220.105]
    5 19 ms 17 ms 16 ms ve38.bdr1.s1.au.as58511.net [103.17.220.46]
    6 196 ms 197 ms 195 ms ve3.bdr1.la1.us.as58511.net [103.247.3.150]
    7 199 ms 206 ms 199 ms ae13-182.cr2-lax2.ip4.gtt.net [173.205.52.201]
    8 201 ms 201 ms 198 ms xe-7-0-3.cr1-lax2.ip4.gtt.net [141.136.107.206]
    9 190 ms 190 ms 191 ms las-b3-link.telia.net [80.239.161.89]
    10 267 ms 266 ms 267 ms nyk-bb1-link.telia.net [62.115.116.93]
    11 274 ms 274 ms 274 ms bost-b1-link.telia.net [62.115.122.203]
    12 271 ms 264 ms 266 ms internap-ic-304640-bost-b1.c.telia.net [62.115.38.110]
    13 266 ms 262 ms 297 ms border11.te7-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.41]
    14 268 ms 269 ms 264 ms perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.61.78]
    15 268 ms 271 ms 262 ms 198.49.243.253
    16 * * * Request timed out.
    17 * * * Request timed out.
    18 * * * Request timed out.
    19 * * * Request timed out.
    20 * * * Request timed out.
    21 * * * Request timed out.
    22 * * * Request timed out.
    23 * * * Request timed out.
    24 * * * Request timed out.
    25 * * * Request timed out.
    26 * * * Request timed out.
    27 * * * Request timed out.
    28 * * * Request timed out.
    29 * * * Request timed out.
    30 * * * Request timed out.

    Trace complete.
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    jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    You don't need to be a tech guru to understand what packet losses are and my instructions on contacting your ISP to get them to help you in this situation. You can make all the pings and tracerts all you want, but that's not going to solve the problem you have.

    Your road analogy doesn't even make sense since this has to do with the road being problematic and not Cryptic's front door. If it was, explain how others and myself are getting good connections with little to no lag? Heck I also don't even live in the US and I'm in South-East Asia.
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    chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    the response i got from CS was, well with that speed, you're going to have trouble playing.... I pointed out, I'd been playing for 5 years with that. NO response​​
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    jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    CS isn't in the position to help, your ISP is.
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    inspektorherringinspektorherring Posts: 11 Arc User
    jennymachx said:

    You don't need to be a tech guru to understand what packet losses are and my instructions on contacting your ISP to get them to help you in this situation. You can make all the pings and tracerts all you want, but that's not going to solve the problem you have.



    Your road analogy doesn't even make sense since this has to do with the road being problematic and not Cryptic's front door. If it was, explain how others and myself are getting good connections with little to no lag? Heck I also don't even live in the US and I'm in South-East Asia.

    I will do some reading this weekend and see what I see :) I thought it was very curious that tracert seemed to be saying everything was fine until it reached perfectworld and THEN went bad but maybe I am just interpreting it wrong.
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    spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    Well, it's possible that your stuff is getting goofed up on the way there, and then since it's goofed when it arrives the server can't do what it needs to do with it. Cause you know, if the delivery guy smashes your ikea stuff to bits it's not really your fault you can't put that table together.
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    inspektorherringinspektorherring Posts: 11 Arc User
    Analogies are fun.
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    jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    If you understood that the problem is potentially somewhere along the route that your ISP uses to connect you to Cryptic's servers, which is really outside Cryptic's jurisdiction, then the analogy isn't far-fetched.
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    inspektorherringinspektorherring Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    Well I didn't think it was that at first from what I was seeing, but I'm willing to take your guys word for it and spinnys analogy did fit with mine pretty well I thought. Instead of the door being jammed, the door only opens for properly built ikea Fergenblendlfjordblakkens but mine got all busted on the drive over. :)
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