Concept builds needing twinking.

ryokoryu

Ok firstly let me apologize up front for the lack on info in the builds following, I can't play champions effectively because the laptop I have at the moment runs CO at 5 frames a second. the computer I used to play on died soon after onslought came out (the following month in fact) and my health and financial situation do not bode for a return to playing soon, at least not seriously. I keep getting killed in level 2 and 3 missions because of the low framerate and thus my progress is going to be slow, however I also noticed that the mechanics and many advantages I used to use are no longer viable at all. Rather than sorting through the higher level characters which will not be usable in the near future in the content I need to do to progress with them. Instead I will focus on lower level character ideas and play them as far as I can with the problems in framerate. I will be doing themed characters and I am not even sure the characters will be viable.
Character 1
Martial arts unarmed and energy blast as a suplimental ability. The concept of this character is very much inspired by Dragonball and it's affiliated franchises. Looking more towards the early Dragonball where the reliance is mostly on the fighting techniques but with the energy blast as a potential nuke and finisher. the idea is hybrid DPS.
Innate: One of mind and body
Riteous Fists
Hundred Hands
Thunderbolt lunge
Bountiful Chi Resurgence
talents
BodyBuilder
Boundless researves
PSS: Str
SSS: Con (probably want to change this not high enough for the other SSS)
Currently level 10
Also the hero builder won't load for me atm so pls excuse the unorthodox means of my build posting.

ryokoryu

Minorage
Concept: Minotaur from the depths of a subterranean realm. Looking for a heavy weapons CDR build DPS.
Innate Talent: Superhuman

Bludgeon
Eruption rk2 magma burst
Unstopable
Enrage GG

talents: energetic, negotiator
PSS: Dex
SSS: int
currently level 10
Superspeed will eventually have impact since the idea would be a charging bull minotaur

ryokoryu

Powerwing Zed
Concept: A prodigy inventer escaping a world taken over by lichs and undead. Melee DPS specializing in gauntlet chainsaw.
Innate talent: the master
Sonic Blaster
Gauntlet chainsaw rk2 ripsaw
Bionic shielding
Way of the Warrior
Talents
Relentless
Tireless
PSS: Str
SSS: int
current level 10

ryokoryu

Xeno Marine
Concept: a being only semi-corporeal with shape shifting capabilities from a now dead world swallowed Qliphothic forces now seeks to defend this world. Dodge munitions tank as being only partially physical many attacks hit less. Very influenced by the Warhammer 40k chaos marines and space marines with a twist.
Innate talent: the radiant
Gunslinger
Sub-machine gun burst challenge
lightning reflexes rk 3
assault riffle challenge
Concentration
Holdout shot Stim pack
negotiator
prodigy
quick recovery
tireless
PSS: Con
SSS: Int Prs
Current level 15

ryokoryu

And finally one that is not made yet but is there a viable necromancy buid or is it just fluff in the caster revamp

riverocean

There's a working and updated hero builder now:

http://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm


If you're intersted.

ryokoryu

thanks I will use it for updates.

flowcyto

DBZ-style build, Hybrid w/ AoPM:

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform

Super Stats
Level 6: Strength (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Master (Con: 10, Str: 10, Dex: 10, Rec: 8)
Level 6: Covert Ops Training (Str: 3, Dex: 3, Con: 3, Int: 3)
Level 9: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 12: Physical Conditioning (Str: 5, Con: 5)
Level 15: Martial Focus (Str: 5, Dex: 5)
Level 18: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Righteous Fists
Level 1: One Hundred Hands (Rank 2, Rank 3, Ghostly Strikes)
Level 6: Thunderbolt Lunge (Essence Assault)
Level 8: Aura of Primal Majesty (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Form of the Tempest
Level 14: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 17: Steadfast
Level 20: Shuriken Storm (Rank 2, Rank 3, Strong Arm)
Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 26: Dragon Uppercut (Rank 2, Chi Flame)
Level 29: Masterful Dodge
Level 32: Open Palm Strike (Rank 2, Focused Chi Blast)
Level 35: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind)
Level 38: Rebirth
Adv. Points: 32/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Strength: Swole (3/3)
Strength: Physical Peak (2/3)
Strength: Brutality (2/2)
Strength: Juggernaut (2/3)
Strength: Overpower (1/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Elusive (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

Threw Open Palm Strike in there for the semi-ranged 'blast', though mostly for the theme of it. Gears mostly for Dex and Con.
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HW-based DPS w/ Unstoppable:

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform

Super Stats
Level 6: Strength (Primary)
Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Devastator (Con: 10, End: 8, Str: 10, Rec: 10)
Level 6: Paramilitary Training (Str: 3, Con: 3, Rec: 3, End: 3)
Level 9: Physical Conditioning (Str: 5, Con: 5)
Level 12: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 15: Bodybuilder (Str: 5, End: 5)
Level 18: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Bludgeon
Level 1: Eruption (Rank 2, Magma Burst)
Level 6: Unstoppable (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Enrage (Endorphin Rush)
Level 11: Arc of Ruin (No Quarter, Wildfire)
Level 14: Thermal Reverberation
Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Vicious Descent (Work Up)
Level 23: Annihilate (Rank 2, Scorching Blade)
Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 29: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind)
Level 32: Guard (Rank 2)
Level 35: Unleashed Rage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 38: Rebirth
Adv. Points: 34/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Strength: Swole (3/3)
Strength: Physical Peak (2/3)
Strength: Brutality (2/2)
Strength: Juggernaut (2/3)
Strength: Overpower (1/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Elusive (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

Uses the melee dps role. If ya dun want to KB trash w/ Annihilate then use Eruption and Arc until they become knock resistant. Gears mostly for Str and Con, w/ crit rating on offensive gear.
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Chainsaw build:

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform

Super Stats
Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Master (Con: 10, Str: 10, Dex: 10, Rec: 8)
Level 6: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 12: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 15: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 18: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Particle Rifle
Level 1: Gauntlet Chainsaw (Rank 2, Rank 3, Accelerated Metabolism)
Level 6: Bionic Shielding (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Way of the Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Form of the Tempest
Level 14: Overdrive
Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Energy Wave (Rank 2, Reverse Polarity)
Level 23: Lightspeed Dash
Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 29: Dragon's Claws (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 32: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind)
Level 35: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Laser Knight)
Level 38: Rebirth
Adv. Points: 34/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Dexterity: Gear Utilization (3/3)
Dexterity: Power Swell (2/2)
Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
Avenger: Relentless Assault (3/3)
Avenger: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)

Bit of an odd one to build around, considering how energy-hungry chainsaw is. Threw DC in there so you have a Rush move to help w/ energy. Gears mostly for Dex and Con, w/ a bit of Rec for Overdrive, an some extra cost discount on utility gear. Guard/Wardicator is good for the specs too, but I wanted to take something a bit different here.
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Dodge-based Muni tank:

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform

Super Stats
Level 6: Constitution (Primary)
Level 10: Ego (Secondary)
Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Void (Con: 10, End: 10, Dex: 8, Ego: 10)
Level 6: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
Level 9: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 12: Shooter (Dex: 5, Ego: 5)
Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 18: Wordly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Gunslinger
Level 1: Burst Shot (Taking Names, Off Your Feet)
Level 6: Concentration
Level 8: Lightning Reflexes (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Submachinegun Burst (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenge!)
Level 14: Killer Instinct
Level 17: Assault Rifle (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenge!)
Level 20: Holdout Shot (Stim Pack)
Level 23: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 26: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 32: Masterful Dodge
Level 35: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind)
Level 38: Rebirth
Adv. Points: 32/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Constitution: Unyielding (1/2)
Constitution: Fuel My Fire (2/3)
Constitution: Resilient (2/2)
Constitution: Deflection (3/3)
Constitution: Adrenaline Rush (2/2)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Mastery: Constitution Mastery (1/1)

Gave ya lotsa defensive/healing options, though ya may not need all of them. Gears mostly for Con and Ego.

ryokoryu

will I be able to hold agro with the munitions tank without presence as a SS? also new toy I am testing out, enrage force.
Elvish Channeler
(Unnamed Build) - Freeform

Super Stats
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
Level 15:

Talents
Level 1: The Impulse (End: 10, Int: 10, Ego: 10, Rec: 8)
Level 6: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 12:
Level 15:
Level 18:
Level 21:

Powers
Level 1: Force Bolts (Energy Refraction)
Level 1: Force Blast (Rank 2)
Level 6: Kinetic Manipulation
Level 8: Crushing Wave
Level 11: Enrage (Giant Growth)
Level 14:
Level 17:
Level 20:
Level 23:
Level 26:
Level 29:
Level 32:
Level 35:
Level 38:
Adv. Points: 4/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Heroic Flight (Fanfare)
Level 35:

Specializations
Ego: Insight (2/3)

flowcyto

Pres no longer directly affects aggro generation (hasn't for years, actually).

You can make a Str-based Force build, though it won't be as ideal, as Enrage only gives half its dmg benefit to ranged attacks. You can make a STR PSS Force build w/ Concentration and MSA and Int SS, though (STR/Int/Con SS setup). I can make a build for that, if ya want.

ryokoryu

so the question about the potential hoard of undead for a necromancer is still unanswered, is it just not posssible?

flowcyto

Yes it is. But you have to specify if you mean using Sorcery, Darkness, and/or Infernal SN as the base, as all could fit that sort of theme to an extent.

ryokoryu

Sorc horde of undead

flowcyto

Okay, here's a Sorcery-based summoner. Went the versatile route w/ AoPM and Int PSS:

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform

Super Stats
Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Presence (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Hexslinger (Dex: 10, Int: 10, Ego: 10, Pre: 8)
Level 6: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
Level 9: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
Level 12: Diplomatic (Int: 5, Pre: 5)
Level 15: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 18: Coordinated (Dex: 5, Int: 5)
Level 21: Finesse (Dex: 5, Pre: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Eldritch Bolts
Level 1: Eldritch Blast (Rank 2, Blinding Light)
Level 6: Aura of Primal Majesty (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Spellcaster
Level 11: Conjuring
Level 14: Star Barrage (Rank 2, Light Everlasting)
Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Ritual of Primal Summoning (Unbound Ritual)
Level 23: March of the Dead (Forced March)
Level 26: Arcane Vitality (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Hex of Suffering (Rune of Lethargy, Rune of Dismay)
Level 32: Tyrannon's Familiar (Rank 2)
Level 35: Resurrection Serum (Reanimator)
Level 38: Rebirth (Grave Consequences)
Adv. Points: 34/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Intelligence: Enlightened (3/3)
Intelligence: Battle of Wits (2/3)
Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
Commander: Rapid Response (2/2)
Commander: Create An Opening (2/2)
Commander: Multitasker (3/3)
Commander: Durable (2/3)
Commander: Savage (1/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Intelligence Mastery (1/1)

Gears mostly for Int and a Con, w/ a bit of Pres for the bonus heal and aura power.

ryokoryu

RoPs makes undead and familiar then?

flowcyto

That question is too laconic for me to understand. I guess you asked if the Primal ritual comes in undead skins? If so, then not really, but the only true 'undead' pet power is March of the Dead afaik. The others are either from a device or via special advs from Res Serum or Rebirth (which can only be used in certain cases). Otherwise, ya gotta fit other themed pets in there if ya want a larger array. I went w/ the Primal summon cause it can be a feral wolf that uses Howl for the other pets, and the Familiar cause its monster-like. You could test around the look of other pet powers in the PH if ya want. Theme/look is more up to you, not me.

ryokoryu

yeah the masses of undead is what I seek and if it only is in the one power then the idea is not possible.