Palliate + Absolve

kamokami

The Absolve advantage on this power enables people to completely erase threat. It is often times mistakenly (and less often purposefully) used to erase the main tank's threat during Cosmic fights, throwing the whole thing into chaos.

Possible changes:
- Changed to only work for people in teams

- Changed to NOT work for people in Tank Role.....so that if they want to *consent* to having their threat be erased then they can switch roles for the duration of that encounter

- Add a big super obvious visual effect on the person casting Absolve. Could be similar to the "Critical Effect" bubble. This will make the people making mistakes more conscious and careful and make the trolls more easy to report since they'd stand out

Any other ideas?

aiqa

When used on someone in tank role, I think it would be neat if it transfered my own threat to that person.

avianos

kamokami wrote: »

- Changed to NOT work for people in Tank Role.....so that if they want to *consent* to having their threat be erased then they can switch roles for the duration of that encounter

I personally vote for this one, make TANKs immune to Absolve


while the limitations of making it work only on team would work (if it exclude team ups) sometimes the healer who has Palliate to help DPS getting agro off (like in TA) can sometimes accidently use Palliate on the main tank

it could fix that mistake as well​​

kamokami

avianos said:

the limitations of making it work only on team would work (if it exclude team ups) sometimes the healer who has Palliate to help DPS getting agro off (like in TA) can sometimes accidently use Palliate on the main tank

It could work even if Team Up was included. We'd just organize so that the Tanks were not in Team Up....and at the very least we'd have a workaround. While not great it would be a lot better than right now.

bluhman

aiqa said:

When used on someone in tank role, I think it would be neat if it transfered my own threat to that person.

I (half) like this suggestion. The concern I got with it is that in the cases that the person using Palliate has aggroed a separate mob or has a ton of enemies on them, it likely would overload the work the tank has to deal with. In the case of most cosmics though that's not too much of an issue.

kamokami

aiqa said:

When used on someone in tank role, I think it would be neat if it transfered my own threat to that person.

I really like this suggestion a lot. Mostly because it allows more players to contribute to threat management...instead of dumping everything on the tank's shoulders.

chalupaoffury

It'd really help if our targeting for our team were a bit easier to manage. Even if you tell it not to, I've found myself target swapping from a dpser to the tank a few times while tossing out heals. That's honestly why I never take Absolve on my healers, it's just too much of a risk.

IDK though, the idea of being able to manage someone else's threat just rubs me the wrong way in general. I feel like you should be responsible for your own, not able to dictate what your team is allowed to do. The most I can see is a threat dump to the tank, but only because it's manipulating your own personal threat, and placing it on a target that should reasonably be able to handle it. Kinda feel like if someone pulled too much and can't handle it, that's what CC is supposed to be for.

kamokami

chalupaoffury said:

IDK though, the idea of being able to manage someone else's threat just rubs me the wrong way in general.

Makes sense. It's also in some ways what is wrong with Palliate

chalupaoffury

It'd make sense. If someone's actively pulling to the point where you gotta threat wipe them, a threat wipe probably isn't gonna help them as much as possibly dying and learning how to block properly. A power that wipes your threat and heals someone else, however, sounds tasty.

qawsada

kamokami said:

- Add a big super obvious visual effect on the person casting Absolve. Could be similar to the "Critical Effect" bubble. This will make the people making mistakes more conscious and careful and make the trolls more easy to report since they'd stand out

I would say something along the line of those giant pillar of light, similar animation to that of the Pillar of Poz's animation. They will always be the same color and the pillar would be visible on the user and the user's target when use.

kamokami

qawsada said:

I would say something along the line of those giant pillar of light, similar animation to that of the Pillar of Poz's animation. They will always be the same color and the pillar would be visible on the user and the user's target when use.

That would be pretty cool!

opalflame

I'm gonna be really annoyed if they change the visual effect. I use palliate, but there is no way that a giant pillar of light will fit with the theme of my build. I would rather they just make it so that absolve doesn't work on tanks.