Suggestion: do something about UNTIL defender respawns.

notyuu

I'll be blunt and to the point... for the thrid time in three days I have gone to do my OV daily, only to find myself unable to do it due to the lack of living UNTIL defenders, all becasue a selfish player went before I did and killed them off, leaving the troops alive.

something needs to be done about this...like i don't know, maybe making the until defender respawn timers run weaither the troops are killed or not.

soulforger

notyuu said:

I'll be blunt and to the point... for the thrid time in three days I have gone to do my OV daily, only to find myself unable to do it due to the lack of living UNTIL defenders, all becasue a selfish player went before I did and killed them off, leaving the troops alive.

something needs to be done about this...like i don't know, maybe making the until defender respawn timers run weaither the troops are killed or not.

You mean the way it used to be? They wanted the troops to feel needed to be killed to, so they changed the spawning requirements. If they want it, then instead of rewarded the VTs on a single unit's death, they should reward the VTs for the death of the entire group.

notyuu

soulforger said:

notyuu said:

I'll be blunt and to the point... for the thrid time in three days I have gone to do my OV daily, only to find myself unable to do it due to the lack of living UNTIL defenders, all becasue a selfish player went before I did and killed them off, leaving the troops alive.

something needs to be done about this...like i don't know, maybe making the until defender respawn timers run weaither the troops are killed or not.

You mean the way it used to be? They wanted the troops to feel needed to be killed to, so they changed the spawning requirements. If they want it, then instead of rewarded the VTs on a single unit's death, they should reward the VTs for the death of the entire group.

and to composite for the increased time per group increase the number of tokens per group to 7?

soulforger

notyuu said:

and to composite for the increased time per group increase the number of tokens per group to 7?

7 to 10, for I do believe they made it possible for the troops to also drop VTs themselves sometimes.

squirrelloid

soulforger said:

notyuu said:

and to composite for the increased time per group increase the number of tokens per group to 7?

7 to 10, for I do believe they made it possible for the troops to also drop VTs themselves sometimes.

Theoretically each troop is a 50% chance of 1 VT. Seems about right from the OV devices i ran during nightmare invasion.

Honestly, i think they should just wholesale revert back to how it was. Who cares if no one is bothering to kill troops and farming targets? Who does that hurt, exactly?

soulforger

squirrelloid said:

Theoretically each troop is a 50% chance of 1 VT. Seems about right from the OV devices i ran during nightmare invasion.

Honestly, i think they should just wholesale revert back to how it was. Who cares if no one is bothering to kill troops and farming targets? Who does that hurt, exactly?

It hurts new players and those still doing the event. But, I got the costume parts I wanted from it, so I'm good and not farming just the targets. I mean, think of it this way, if you went to kill your targets and you find them all gone on the Zone you're in, how does that NOT hurt you? I mean, seriously, if you kill just the targets, but not the entire group (thus meaning the targets do not respawn, you are hurting the next person to come along.

squirrelloid

soulforger said:

squirrelloid said:

Theoretically each troop is a 50% chance of 1 VT. Seems about right from the OV devices i ran during nightmare invasion.

Honestly, i think they should just wholesale revert back to how it was. Who cares if no one is bothering to kill troops and farming targets? Who does that hurt, exactly?

It hurts new players and those still doing the event. But, I got the costume parts I wanted from it, so I'm good and not farming just the targets. I mean, think of it this way, if you went to kill your targets and you find them all gone on the Zone you're in, how does that NOT hurt you? I mean, seriously, if you kill just the targets, but not the entire group (thus meaning the targets do not respawn, you are hurting the next person to come along.

You misunderstand - i think they should revert to the target respawning almost immediately if the soldiers aren't killed as soon as everyone is out of their immediate area. Which solves the problem you're complaining about.

spinnytop

So just kill off the soldiers, bounce over to another spot, kill the soldiers there, and soon after you bounce back to the first spot your Until guy will be back. What's that? Someone else got there before you? Well, that's just the nature of competitive content.


Trying to get to Onslaught Guardians before other players, the true PvP of the Onslaught event.

reaperwithnoname

They should never have changed Onslaught in the first place. Barring a retcon back to the old way, soulforger's idea is the best option.

markhawkman

That or just increase the token drops. the soldiers have around a 50% chance of dropping 1..... which is pretty worthless. You get 7 for the defender, and on average 3 for the soldiers.... I once cleared all of Westside, and city Center, and one point in Downtown... two tokens short for the daily.... and not enough HP to clear another one.

Some points had incomplete groups though. One was totally empty, another had a single soldier and the Defender, but not the other soldier... hunh what? yeah, that's what I thought too.