Sonic Sonata

raighn

So with the new Hyper Voice & Power Chord powers around the corner, I'm looking to rebuild Sonata from chains to sound... I'm not sure how to go about it though...

PowerHouse   (Link to this build)

Name: Sonata

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6:
Level 10:
Level 15:

Talents:
Level 1:
Level 6:
Level 9:
Level 12:
Level 15:
Level 18:
Level 21:

Powers:
Level 1: Sonic Blaster
Level 1: Sonic Device (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6:
Level 8: Electric Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Force Shield (Force Sheathe)
Level 14: Sonic Boom Generator (Rank 2, Sonic Suppression Enhancer)
Level 17: Thunderclap (Rank 2, Collateral Damage)
Level 20: Shockwave (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23:
Level 26:
Level 29:
Level 32:
Level 35:
Level 38:

Travel Powers:
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations:

flowcyto

Since the Planner isn't updated yet, I assume that SW is standing in for Hyper Voice.

Adding in Concentration and the new ultimate, ya pretty much have all ur attacks covered. Rest is the usual sort of supporting backbone: low-cd heal, an EU, AOs and ADs, etc. If using MSA then I'd prob go w/ Int PSS or Dex PSS + Int SSS, otherwise Ego PSS is also good.

Wish there was a blast power that was Sonic dmg... then ya could do more interesting things w/ the specs like Avenger's options. Else, its the usual Guardicator.

circleofpsi

Funny, I was wanting to make a pure Sonic Build too, but I really dislike the "Melee" parts to it, I mostly want Soinc DEVICES, like Weapons or Gitars. etc

If I was you OP, i'll wait until more like so come out

pantagruel01

Well, you can put an ult into your level 6 power slot (this obviously isn't a leveling build). The main problem with a pure sonic build is that there really aren't any single target attacks, and none of the spammable AoEs are particularly high dps.

raighn

pantagruel01 said:

Well, you can put an ult into your level 6 power slot (this obviously isn't a leveling build). The main problem with a pure sonic build is that there really aren't any single target attacks, and none of the spammable AoEs are particularly high dps.

You havn't used Sonic Boom Generator have you? it's actually pretty high DPS...

theravenforce

Interesting...

I actually recently planned out both an old concept I'm bringing back to LIVE (Sista Sonique) and a new concept (one of my toon's nemesis as a playable character using HW and Sonic).

I'm sort of debating Sonic Boom Generator vs Shockwave on my own build...since if I CAN go with Invisible Weapons, I'll live with Sonic Boom Gen.

The concept of Sista Sonique is using both actual sound waves and "sonic constructs" (think Songbird), naturally this build'll change once I get it on LIVE but it's based on the old version which used melee/sonic/UR.

theravenforce

Here's the old melee/range version of Sista Sonique:

PowerHouse   (Link to this build)

Name: Sista Sonique!

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Strength (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Intelligence (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Master
Level 6: Brilliant
Level 9: Physical Conditioning
Level 12: Body and Mind
Level 15: Healthy Mind
Level 18: Enduring
Level 21: Mighty

Powers:
Level 1: Electric Bolt
Level 1: Power Gauntlet (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Electric Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 14: Thunderclap (Rank 2, Collateral Damage)
Level 17: Enrage
Level 20: Shockwave (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 26: Retaliation
Level 29: Force Detonation (Rank 2)
Level 32: Soul Mesmerism (Glossolalia)
Level 35: Masterful Dodge
Level 38: Unleashed Rage (Rank 2, Rank 3)

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Superspeed (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Power Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)

Specializations:
Strength: Swole (3/3)
Strength: Quick Recovery (2/2)
Strength: Balance (2/2)
Strength: Juggernaut (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Locus (2/2)
Guardian: Ruthless (1/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (2/3)
Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

Was before the days of "Aspect of the Machine".

I suppose you could use this build and go Aspect of the Machine Rank 3 and also go for Power Chord, since PC isn't reliant on Enrage.

This was a highly experimental build for me, since I wasn't too sure at the time going for STR with ranged abilities but she held her own in PvP and achieved around...17k UR's with nemesis gear on, so it's not a bad build.

flowcyto

Sonic Boom Gen's base dps is lower than even most blast's, though it also is a 100ft power w/o lockdown and an AoE sphere component. Its dps is more in line w/ 50ft 45-d cone AoEs, which have more AoE coverage than a sphere, but less reach.

Overall, SBG isn't a bad power, but it (like most of those 45-d cones) could be a bit better, imo. Its certainly fine enough for a sonic-themed build, since such builds are fighting for scraps atm anyways.

If I were to try something a touch more experimental w/ a sonic build:

PowerHouse (Link to this build)

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Glacier
Level 6: Covert Ops Training
Level 9: Healthy Mind
Level 12: Acrobat
Level 15: Coordinated
Level 18: Quick Recovery
Level 21: Negotiator

Powers:
Level 1: Sonic Blaster
Level 1: Pulse Beam Rifle (Rank 2, Finite Improbability Engine)
Level 6: Concentration
Level 8: Electric Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Sonic Boom Generator (Rank 2, Sonic Suppression Enhancer)
Level 14: Overdrive
Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Shockwave (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Masterful Dodge
Level 26: Sonic Device (Rank 2)
Level 29: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind)
Level 32: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 35: Power Gauntlet (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 38: Power Chord (Rank 2 + special adv)

Travel Powers:
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations:
Intelligence: Enlightened (3/3)
Intelligence: Tactician (2/2)
Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
Avenger: Relentless Assault (3/3)
Avenger: Preemptive Strike (2/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
Mastery: Avenger Mastery (1/1)

Maintain either SW (or Hyper Voice) or PBR till AvM procs (former for AoE, latter for single target), then use Power Gauntlet (or Exp Blaster charges), then consume Preemptive Strike w/ a Sonic Boom Gen charge.
Can use SBG's debuff to boost SW/HV and Power Chord's dmg for AoE. Gear a bit of Rec on the side for OD (or just opt for MSA).

If ya wanna be a purist ya can drop PBR (put Exp Blaster_Power Gauntlet or Sonic Device in its place and free up a power slot) and use Hyper Voice or SW as ur main filler in all cases, instead of just for AoE.. though you'd take a ST dps hit for that.

Now if only we had a Sonic dmg Blast..

circleofpsi

Say with that said reaven frocre, what about trying to make a "Music" build, useing only soinc like "weapons"

Soinc blaster/Gen/The new Ult. the new Scream/Soinc Boom..

Cuz I think we'll need more soinc based powers, before we can make a DJ/Music Build right?

raighn

cryneting said:

Say with that said reaven frocre, what about trying to make a "Music" build, useing only soinc like "weapons"

Soinc blaster/Gen/The new Ult. the new Scream/Soinc Boom..

Cuz I think we'll need more soinc based powers, before we can make a DJ/Music Build right?

That's actually exactly what i'm trying to do with my build... honestly not liking the aesthetic of Sonic Blaster or Sonic Boom Generator... but, they are manageable... I see them as Sonata amplifying the sound of the bells around her wrist for the blaster and a sonic snap for the sonic boom generator...

Now that Hypervoice & Power Chord are live I'm back to working on her again... I'm quite enjoying Hypervoice... opted for both sonic debuffs from Generator & Voice, it's a little tedious to keep both debuffs rolling but it's not to bad and I honestly think it's worth the damage... I've started wondering if Thunderclap will actually even be worth picking up... the main reason I'm looking at it is for a PBAoE for when/if I get surrounded by enemies... I'm also considering Howl purely as a sonic themed fear debuff, reducing enemy damage is always good and it is a thematically fitting power...

Past that I guess I still should find a solid ST power, but there's not really anything that fits her theme for that...

raighn

So far this is what my build looks like...

PowerHouse   (Link to this build)

Name: Sonata

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Impulse
Level 6: Negotiator
Level 9: Investigator
Level 12: Amazing Stamina
Level 15: Field Ops Training
Level 18: Survival Training
Level 21: Command Training

Powers:
Level 1: Sonic Blaster
Level 1: Sonic Device (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 8: Electric Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Sonic Boom Generator (Rank 2, Sonic Suppression Enhancer)
Level 14: Hyper Voice (Rank 2, Special Advantage)
Level 17: Thunderclap (Rank 2, Collateral Damage)
Level 20: Force Shield (Force Sheathe)
Level 23: Concentration
Level 26: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29:
Level 32:
Level 35: Power Chord (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 38:

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Acrobatics
Level 35:

Specializations:
Intelligence: Enlightened (3/3)
Intelligence: Tactician (2/2)
Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (1/3)
Guardian: Locus (2/2)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Retribution (2/2)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: The Rush of Battle (3/3)
Vindicator: Modified Gear (2/2)
Mastery: Intelligence Mastery (1/1)

I'm not settled on my stat selection, I'm completely open to changing up her stats... however this set up has resulted in some phenominal DPS with Hyper Voice spam... my main rotation is SBG > Hyper Voice > Sonic Device + SBG/Thunderclap (depending on if enemies are nearby or at a distance) and continually rotating SBG > Hyper Voice x2 when Sonic Device is on CD... I've inadvertantly found myself tanking many alerts with that combination, rather unsuccessfully I might add... her lack of defensive abilities ressult in spending a lot of time running back to the group, only to pull everything off the tank yet again after just one rotation... havn't got her up to lv35 for Power Chord yet but I did enjoy using it on the PTS.

flowcyto

Well, using AoE as ur main attack is always gonna get ya lotsa splash dmg aggro, rofl. W/ a good tank that shouldn't be an issue, but it may be when pugging Alerts. Could get Palliate/absolve or EM/SoM for a threat wipe if its a major concern. Can also trade one of the energy SS's for Con SS- since I imagine this build not too have too many energy issues as ya gear up.

raighn

flowcyto said:

Well, using AoE as ur main attack is always gonna get ya lotsa splash dmg aggro, rofl. W/ a good tank that shouldn't be an issue, but it may be when pugging Alerts. Could get Palliate/absolve or EM/SoM for a threat wipe if its a major concern. Can also trade one of the energy SS's for Con SS- since I imagine this build not too have too many energy issues as ya gear up.

Yea... I've been considering switching to END PSS for hardened as well... I'm actually kinda enjoying running with 3 energy stats as well, it's an interesting experiment to see just how much power and survival can be pumped out of just energy stats... I'll probably lose quite a bit of damage going END PSS over INT PSS, but i'd also get a good chunk of survival... but I probably will just trade something out for Con... probably Rec...

riverocean

This looks like a fun build. Electric form really does boost Hyper Voice's dps quite nicely. I keep hoping we'll get some more ranged sonic powers.

flowcyto

riverocean said:

This looks like a fun build. Electric form really does boost Hyper Voice's dps quite nicely. I keep hoping we'll get some more ranged sonic powers.

A Sonic dmg Blast, pls. I'd like to make use of spec-based interactions (read: Avenger) for more interesting builds :x If that came w/ a buff to Blasts' base dps somehow then I'd be elated.

raighn

riverocean said:

This looks like a fun build. Electric form really does boost Hyper Voice's dps quite nicely. I keep hoping we'll get some more ranged sonic powers.

I'll certainly be adjusting this build with any future sonic powers we get...

raighn

So after playing Sonata again for a bit today... I got to thinking... Sonic powers have a lot of CC and debuff effects tied to them... So I've been considering a little revision of her stats and specs... possibly even trading out her form... even considering the possibility of switching from Electric Form to AoPM...

I'm looking at making her into a bit off a Buff/Debuffer with an offensive focus...

INT/Pre/Dex

Specializations:
Intelligence: Enlightened (3/3)
Intelligence: Tactician (2/2)
Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
Sentinel: Torment (2/2)
Sentinel: Eternal Spring (1/2)
Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
Sentinel: Genesis (2/2)
Arbiter: Ruthless (2/2)
Arbiter: Arbiter Aura (1/3)
Arbiter: Rend (2/2)
Arbiter: Concussion (3/3)
Arbiter: Enhanced Gear (2/3)
Mastery: Sentinel Mastery (1/1)

Arbiter since she doesn't have anything that will proc Trapped from Overseer and Rend & Concussion look like they would be some usefull debuffs that she actually could proc...

flowcyto

As long as ur using TC pretty frequently and dun mind the hit to personal dps and defense, then go for it. if ya do want to extend the length of stuns w/o getting Manip, then I'd get 2-3/3 in Battle of Wits in Int PSS. Sentry is another option for that, though a more defensive one.