WHAT Have you done to Reaper's Caress!? What have you done to my Swordmen!?

avianos

Im sorry, is this some kind of Cruel Joke?

with the update, Reaper's Caress got AoE aspects and Shredded Debuff as an ADV
, BUT WHAT IS THIS?

now only the 1st and 3rd hits of the combo have a LOW chance to apply Bleed, the 2nd strike lost it and the 3rd strike is not 100% Bleed guarantee anymore
This chance is a pathetic 15% which is only gets Doubled if you use Focus
15% chance to apply bleed, the 100% chance on the 3rd strike is gone

That 100% chance on the 3rd hit was what build my Enraged! No Im not using Focus in ALL my Swordmen, Im using Aspect of the Bestial as well


BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE! I cannot help but compare Reaper's Caress with Shred

Lets see Shred now
it has 25% chance to apply bleed in the first 2 Hits of the combo, the chance of applying bleeds is DOUBLED if you are effected by Enraged!
Worst is the 3rd strike is 50% chance (100% on ENRAGED)


So...

• Reaper's Caress 15% (30% on Focus) chance to apply bleed only on 1st and 3rd attack
• Shred 25% (50% on Enraged) chance to apply bleed in the first 2 attacks and 50% (100% on Enraged) with the 3rd one

and before you ask, the Cleaving Strikes ADV on Reaper's Caress only apply Shredded Debuff, it doesn't increased the Bleed chance

wow, just WOW! REALLY Smooth move there DEVs

WHY did you removed the 100% chance for Bleed of Reaper's Caress, Why the second Strike doesn't apply Bleed and WHY Shred got BETTER Threatment?


It seems the Bias and the Appeal for Beastial Supernatural were true after all
Consider me Disgusted with this chance ​​

roughbearmattach

Is the power AoE now? I'm guessing it was meant to balance that. As an AoE, it will hit more targets, and thus overall score lots of bleeds . . . unless you are fighting single targets.
I'm not convinced that it is a good balance choice.

Similar to the changes to 2GM, it looks more and more like powers are being changed to make reliance on one or two powers to maintain a battle strategy (such as keeping up a form or debuff) won't be viable anymore.

There seems to be a move towards requiring a rotation of powers in a set, or to find combinations of powers in multiple sets to make some strategy work.

raighn

Shred is AoE now too so nope... not to balance the AoE aspect of it...

spinnytop

I mean, I think you're over-reacting... you can still get to 8 stacks ez, its just better with Focus... so wow, martial arts powers better with martials arts forms, crazy :P

roughbearmattach

raighn said:

Shred is AoE now too so nope... not to balance the AoE aspect of it...

I see,
What is the single-blade power that is meant to reliably apply bleeds, then?

avianos

I require Clarifications from the DEVs

The Description is even more Misleading now with the Update
It states that the Third hit will apply 100% Bleed and it Doesn't
and the Tooltip in the Powertray that the SECOND attack makes the character 100% Bleed which is ALSO doesn't

For the First time I saw my Bleeding Stacks stuck in 3 and then falling apart
Spamming the combo 4 times and it failed to give a single Bleed stack


Oh and the Three Bladed Edge ADV from the Reaper's Touch sucks (as well all the FOCUS adv of MA energy builders)
It helps having 100% chance to apply Bleed, but the chance for it to trigger is so low

spinnytop wrote: »

I mean, I think you're over-reacting... you can still get to 8 stacks ez, its just better with Focus... so wow, martial arts powers better with martials arts forms, crazy :P

Yes, and lets kill all the possible synergies Powerframes while doing that as well
This Breaks the Synergy Single Blades had with Aspect of the Beastial! OF COURSE im

AND NO I'M NOT gonna use Shred on Swordbuilds neither DEX primary with Form of Swordmen in my STR-Based builds! forget it

roughbearmattach wrote: »

What is the single-blade power that is meant to reliably apply bleeds, then?

Reaper's Caress and Scything Blade, and thats pretty much it!
The whole point of Single Blade powerframe is to Stack Bleeds and RAPTURE them with Reaper's Embrace, nothing more nothing less


Reaper's Caress's AoE Damage is the same with the Single Target BTW​​

flowcyto

From my brief testing on the PTS, it seems that either tooltip is wrong, or the last hit is buggy. I think they meant to make the bleed chance 50% on the last hit (well, 2 hits, but counts as one for combo flagging), so you'd only get the 100% chance w/ a stack of Focus. If that's the case, then the tooltip needs to be updated.

I can see the frustration at the change, though, as this means ya wouldn't get a guaranteed bleed proc from each combo w/o Focus, and Shred can still bleed more often overall. I guess should get clarity on what the baseline bleed chance is intended to be for the last hit(s).

squirrelloid

Well, that answers my question about which direction to take my current fighting claws/bestial hybrid. Was thinking of replacing Shred with Reaper's Caress and going full MA, but that's clearly a sucker's move, so time to replace Dragon Claw with Massacre or something and go full bestial... Sigh, the MA EU is probably better for the character too, but that Reaper's/Shred comparison is terrible for Reapers.

avianos

squirrelloid wrote: »

Well, that answers my question about which direction to take my current fighting claws/bestial hybrid. Was thinking of replacing Shred with Reaper's Caress and going full MA, but that's clearly a sucker's move, so time to replace Dragon Claw with Massacre or something and go full bestial... Sigh, the MA EU is probably better for the character too, but that Reaper's/Shred comparison is terrible for Reapers.

well the good news is that your plans won't be ruined because the issue with Reaper's Caress is gonna get fixed
We just have to wait and see!


for the meanwhile, I suggest the Advantages the Martial Artes Energy Builders have which apply Focus on self​​

mijjestic

Good to hear!