Heavy Weapons

glortor

http://powerhouse.nullware.com/powerhouse.html?v=11&n=TheVastator&d=1137W3PQGOA6300G000G70GG604GA07G503G905GC04J503JE00QG04DM00EI04IL039R0810mS42ct3Svt

Are those two the only attacks I need from the weapon tree?

flowcyto

If I had to pick only two attacks from HW, it'd prob be Brimstone (for the easy pbAoE) and either Annihilate or Skewer (latter is best for ST dps, but needs other powers to work w/ Enrage most of the time). Skullcrusher charges are fun, but not really ideal for ST dps (and iirc, isn't properly working w/ AoE specs like Locus). Arc is good for its debuff, but I hate relying on charged melee cones for AoE. Eruption is also good, but not spam-able.

Quick Recovery scales quite poorly. If not using it for Compassion procs, then I'd drop it for Physical Peak (esp for Skullcrusher's high eps) or Aggression.

glortor

flowcyto said:

If I had to pick only two attacks from HW, it'd prob be Brimstone (for the easy pbAoE) and either Annihilate or Skewer (latter is best for ST dps, but needs other powers to work w/ Enrage most of the time). Skullcrusher charges are fun, but not really ideal for ST dps (and iirc, isn't properly working w/ AoE specs like Locus). Arc is good for its debuff, but I hate relying on charged melee cones for AoE. Eruption is also good, but not spam-able.

Quick Recovery scales quite poorly. If not using it for Compassion procs, then I'd drop it for Physical Peak (esp for Skullcrusher's high eps) or Aggression.

What's the optimal hw build then?

vonqball

I made a skullcrusher, arc of ruin build once. It wasn't too bad for damage, but it was quite energy hungry.

I'm not sure there is one optimal HW build, I suspect a number of decent builds could be made using mostly HW attacks.... Cleave is pretty good on it's own. Couple it with str PSS and warden mastery. Throw in skewer or annihilate, skewer hurts more, annihilate builds enrage stacks (but the knockback is sometimes annoying). If you choose skewer, you might want to add eruption for enrage building.

Arc of ruin gives a nice defense debuff on a tap. If you are going thermal reverb for your energy unlock, brimstone will serve you well... its PBAoE nature also makes for a nice, no fuss, answer to being mobbed by trash. If you are going with MSA as your unlock, eruption is pretty sweet, could give vicious descent a look too.

If I had to choose 2 attacks from HW I would say cleave and arc of ruin.

edited: brimstone=eruption O_o

flowcyto

Skewer w/ the Follow Through adv is best ST dps for HW, iirc. But that also means using something like Eruption to keep Enrage going, and assuming ur energy is still fine that way (thankfully, w/ Eruption ya can also use Int + MSA). Also keeping Arc for the debuff (Demolish w/ BtB is better as a Crushing dmg debuff, but only if ya can justify it thematically). Annihilate is a semi-decent 2nd contender for ST dps for HW, but then ur also dealing w/ a move that KBs even on tap.

Quick example template for a HW/Skewer build:

http://powerhouse.nullware.com/powerhouse.html?v=11&n=&d=1134WbAMBPE0000G000G203G503GC00GB07J5037G00GE039Q05G700G905EI040000000010gw3bIm3UbT

glortor

Thanks, both of you! I'll experiment.