A Suggestion for FreeForm's Diminishing Returns

rtma

Was wondering what you'd think about this, to not only help specializing for Freeforms but perhaps even encourage diversity along with any sense of Balancing in future(Or at all), what if the Super Stats worked more on a curve then being throttled at low numbers with a softcap, instead give Full benefits for all super stats up until ~150-200pts, taper off and hit a soft cap about 300-400pts instead, that way if you want to do damage with Melee, Go Strength (And Hit like an AT) Ego for Ranged (Hit like an AT) Presence for heals/CC (Like an AT?)

Cause why would you do less damage if you build a AT Theme Build compared to a AT, makes no sense, why not have the same potential?

roughbearmattach

Well, it would encourage more "Mario" builds, rather than focused ones. In other words, this suggestion would allow players with four slot gear, Vigilante gear to hit the soft cap in super stats easily, then build up points in other stats with gear/talents.

That means even more toons could accomplish the high offense, high defense, good healing combo. Not sure if that would increase build diversity.

It would make the game even easier, since, as Gradii points out, enemies are statted for pre-Alert heroes.

raighn

If you want to make it more specialized then the curve would need to be inverted...

Lower values give less per point while higher values give more...

so like... 1-70 points would give half the current value for 1-70... 70-140 would give the current value for 1-70, and 140-210 would give 1.5x, and 210+ would give double...

So... lets say that you had 300 Str, and (for ease of math) the 1-70 value was +0.5 damage per point... at 300 you'd have 35+70+105+180=+390 damage as opposed to say +185 (70+((300-70)0.5)) with the current curve.

People who invest in a certain skill will get a high return from it, and no one can just soft-cap for the "optimal bonus"

pantagruel01

There's already a diminishing return built into the superstat bonuses; just apply it to energy unlocks, forms, and passives. The historical value is 60% * stat / (stat + X), where X is 200 at level 4, and works out to 15% at 67 stat, 20% at 100 stat, 25% at 141, 30% at 200, 35% at 280, 40% at 400, 45% at 600, 50% at 1,000.

notyuu

From a technical standpoint if this was implemented, you could take AoPM to boost your SS to about 150ish then set up your gear to boost three more stats to the 150ish mark and instead of being a mediocre mess of a build....you would actually be as effective as the speclised builds currently are but with 6 stats instead of three....while that might not sound like a bad thing on paper, it won't be too long before somebody abuses it to make a unstoppable, unforgivable monster.

well that and the fact that they would need to update the mobs if they did this so they actually posed a threat to every non-AT, non-squishy out there, inorder to accommodate for the increase in power in free-forms that this would bring about.