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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User

    So this thread has kind of badly derailed :smiley:. But I do want to bring it back to what's on test right now. I was chatting with a friend and apparently the taunt on the new gear is very good. He claimed his tank was able to hold aggro in the training room with it - even though the person he was teamed with was doing heavy damage.

    Has anyone else tested this out? Because equipment that improves a tanks Taunting is big news. And it's something we've all seemed to have overlooked.


    That is great... so great that it should be more readily available to the population ;)
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  • carrionbaggagecarrionbaggage Posts: 729 Community Moderator
    edited September 2015
    gradii wrote: »
    What time do you expect to have this ready? I can't wait to see the improvements :smiley:

    Looks like it's back up right now.​​
  • stellariodragonstellariodragon Posts: 588 Arc User
    OMG, I really liked the improvements~! I can actually kill one of those Until Bots~! I was worried I wouldn't be able to solo and get gear.
    • I liked the reduction in the until bot's attacks! Thank you~!
    • I liked the new reasonable prices in the store~! Hurrah~!
    • I liked the "Do both" Mission.
    • I liked the turrets instead of wandering police bots. Makes MC seem less like a police state.
    • Not quite sure about the real-time limited added to the devices? They still disappear when you get clobbered (wanted to test out the turrets).
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Onslaught Gloves of The Sniper + Shoulder Launcher:
    Bug
    When using Onslaught Gloves of the Sniper with Shoulder Launcher, the Onslaught Burst happens repeatedly in the period between Shoulder Launcher is activated and when it actually fires ( this is also an issue that happens when using Shoulder Launcher with Anguish from the Avenger specialization tree )
  • pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User
    edited September 2015

    OMG, I really liked the improvements~! I can actually kill one of those Until Bots~! I was worried I wouldn't be able to solo and get gear.

    • I liked the reduction in the until bot's attacks! Thank you~
    [Combat (Self)] UNTIL Defender deals 450656 (189553) Piercing Damage to you with UNTIL Super Minigun.
    You were saying?

    Wonder if they have a bug where their damage keeps continually escalating with time or something.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    Thinking about it some more I'm not sure how I feel about that tanking secondary. We have changes going through right now designed to get us away from "Everyone has the same piece of gear in this slot", and now this tanking secondary means that every tank is going to be wearing the same piece of gear. Is it going to turn into a situation of "don't bother trying to tank until you've farmed this piece of gear"?
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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    gradii said:

    It's gonna be more like... "Don't bother holding aggro over tanks who have farmed this piece of gear till you get it".

    Hey, I always figured, if you want the aggro, you can have the aggro, I'll just keep picking on the boss while he's ignoring me. No problem here! :wink:
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  • draogndraogn Posts: 1,269 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    The onslaught defenders aren't quite as bad as they were before, though with no self heal or ability to regenerate health they still deal quite a bit of damage.

    I also see the cost of the powers has been reduced though 10,000 villain tokens is still a lot of grinding. That will require killing 2,000 (1,850 with the two dailies) onslaught defenders. The cost of the gear is still pretty high though at 5000 tokens per item.

    Speaking of gear I thought it was nice having gear for the primary slots in there. Having only secondaries in the onslaught vendor makes that 5,000 kills (For all three slots) seem like an even worse grind.

    Also as secondaries they are underpowered, compared to the vigilantes pieces from the Q vendor. The Onslaught tights of fitness for example onl gives 533 health and 14 defense, whereas the vigilante piece might have less health and defense but it boosts your primary stat.
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  • draogndraogn Posts: 1,269 Arc User
    Bug: (at least I hope this is a bug) healing an onslaught defender/target does not flag you. I don't know if this affects healing players with the onslaught engagement buff.

    While healers should be useful being able to sit back and heal with out risk of being attacked seems bad.
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  • pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User
    gradii said:

    I think Onslaught targets should be bonus objectives for the Daily, providing a significant amount of extra tokens on defeating all 3.

    Problem is, it's really easy to get kills by exploit, and at least the requirement to hit three targets puts a lower time and effort limit on completing the daily.
  • kamokamikamokami Posts: 1,633 Arc User


    Problem is, it's really easy to get kills by exploit

    Are there plans in the works to fix this?

  • pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User
    kamokami said:


    Problem is, it's really easy to get kills by exploit

    Are there plans in the works to fix this?
    Not that have been mentioned by the devs. You can't really make it impossible, but something like a survival time requirement would make it slow at least.
  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi Posts: 2,961 Arc User
    edited September 2015

    We are keeping the shard locked until this afternoon when we will update it with an even newer version.

    Uh, I hate to sound like a Idiot, but, timezones son, so what excaly is the afternoon?, its the 2nd of September for me and he posted this the 1st and Im seen-in no update brah
    Psi.
  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,621 Arc User
    Can something be done about the Onslaught locations to make them not boring?​​
  • riveroceanriverocean Posts: 1,690 Arc User
    cryneting said:

    We are keeping the shard locked until this afternoon when we will update it with an even newer version.

    Uh, I hate to sound like a Idiot, but, timezones son, so what excaly is the afternoon?, its the 2nd of September for me and he posted this the 1st and Im seen-in no update brah
    You're like a day behind.. she posted that yesterday. And you can see from the other posts that people have already been on.
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  • cryneting said:

    We are keeping the shard locked until this afternoon when we will update it with an even newer version.

    Uh, I hate to sound like a Idiot, but, timezones son, so what excaly is the afternoon?, its the 2nd of September for me and he posted this the 1st and Im seen-in no update brah
    You're like a day behind.. she posted that yesterday. And you can see from the other posts that people have already been on.

    Oh, well I live in Europe, so yeah that's why
    Psi.
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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi Posts: 2,961 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    I just hope the update comes and not go LIVE, as I am wanting that Mind Control power, the Dev talked about

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the PWE Community Rules and Policies -CB
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    Psi.
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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,621 Arc User
    Onslaught Gear changes. Gear names and icons need to be changed to look like secondaries. They need to boost all our superstats instead of having no stats on them. Their costs need to be reduced to reflect them being secondaries and so they don't take months to farm one set for one character.

    As for Onslaught Villains themselves, their travel power needs to last longer to get from location to location quicker.​​
  • dicesnakedicesnake Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Prices are still bat#### crazy. 1000 per gear piece would be more respectable.

    Thats 200 player kills (600 for full set). Which is still almost asking far too much of a neardead game for 1 piece of -meh- gear.

    The daily reward needs a tweak.
  • carrionbaggagecarrionbaggage Posts: 729 Community Moderator
    I cleaned up some posts. I understand that not talking publicly about exploits can be frustrating, but the PTS thread is not the place to debate forum policy. Please stay on-topic.

    Fixing an exploit takes development time, and it is up to the developers' discretion to weigh that exploit's importance against other development concerns. The best we can do is inform them, and hope that resources are available for a timely fix.

    Until an exploit is fixed, revealing it on a public forum risks increasing its abuse in-game. Please inform a developer or moderator privately about exploits. Asking them to ask you is not an efficient way to relay information.

    Unfortunately, the recent removal of the forum PM system has closed one avenue of communication. If you would like me to forward an exploit to a developer, I have my Arc Message settings adjusted to allow messages from everyone (remember to adjust your own settings if you would like a reply).​​
  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi Posts: 2,961 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    gradii said:

    cryneting said:

    I just hope the update comes and not go LIVE, as I am wanting that Mind Control power, the Dev talked about

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the PWE Community Rules and Policies -CB

    I doubt it will go live like it is now, this is still fairly early testing phases.​​
    Glad, to see otherwise, Im still waiting for the Mind Control Power tho.

    Also if they want to shut comments then, rather sort them, I whold also like to ask, when will the update be out on the PTS, as I live in Europe I have no idea what time it is over at Devs
    Psi.
  • carrionbaggagecarrionbaggage Posts: 729 Community Moderator
    edited September 2015
    cryneting said:

    when will the update be out on the PTS, as I live in Europe I have no idea what time it is over at Devs

    I believe the update that ladygadfly referenced on September 1st is currently active on the Test Server. When time-of-day is referenced, it is generally safe to assume that it is Server Time (Pacific Daylight Time) unless otherwise stated.
  • cyronecyrone Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    cryneting said:

    Also if they want to shut comments then, rather sort them, I whold also like to ask, when will the update be out on the PTS, as I live in Europe I have no idea what time it is over at Devs

    They are GMT-7
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  • mrhinkypunkmrhinkypunk Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    I think the Onslaught targets should give a lot more than 5 tokens per one, what's the point in going around from target to target to kill them if you'd need to kill 1000 of them to get a single secondary.

    And on the case of the secondary's, as they are without being able to mod them they are not worth it over vigilante at all or even close to on par.

    Also on the case of the rewards who is going to kill 2000 of these guys just to get the grond power which even without a CD is probably one of the stickiest ability's with nothing really to it. I would suggest you add a stun or knock to it atleast if you aren't going to increase the actual damage, or atleast some kind of debuff to give a point in having the power. The animation used on it which doesn't really work as an animation (you can bind a emote to it and it'll do the emote instead) is really not interesting or satisfactory to use.
  • riveroceanriverocean Posts: 1,690 Arc User
    edited September 2015



    And on the case of the secondary's, as they are without being able to mod them they are not worth it over vigilante at all or even close to on par.

    Well to be fair, a number of people on this very thread complained about the new gear being primaries. I.E. they felt it cheapened their efforts in getting Justice gear. And a few people also recommended the gear be made secondaries. So the dev team listened and did exactly what they were asked to do by us...

    I'm personally not a fan of these being secondaries, but the majority has spoken. :neutral:

    Feedback to Dev Team:

    Can the Bastion passive please, please, please get it's taunt function back. Right now the set has been nerfed heavily. Adding taunt back to Bastion makes at least one piece of gear extremely useful for a lot of builds. Many people, including myself, were very excited about giving tank builds more taunt options. Taunting and holding aggro is a continuous issue in this game and that passive would help out a lot.

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  • darqaura2darqaura2 Posts: 932 Arc User



    And on the case of the secondary's, as they are without being able to mod them they are not worth it over vigilante at all or even close to on par.

    Well to be fair, a number of people on this very thread complained about the new gear being primaries. I.E. they felt it cheapened their efforts in getting Justice gear. And a few people also recommended the gear be made secondaries. So the dev team listened and did exactly what they were asked to do by us...

    I'm personally not a fan of these being secondaries, but the majority has spoken. :neutral:

    I think we all assumed they would be moddable . . . but now that I think about it that may have been a bad assumption.

  • darqaura2darqaura2 Posts: 932 Arc User
    With that said if they can't be moddable I would suggest putting them back as primaries.
  • itsbrou#5396 itsbrou Posts: 1,778 Arc User
    We haven't seen new secondary gear in ages. I think it's perfectly fine that they be secondaries. That way rampages would be relevant activities still.
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  • ladygadflyladygadfly Posts: 279 Cryptic Developer
    Moving this discussion over to here where the full patchnotes are: http://forum.arcgames.com/championsonline/discussion/1202964/fc-31-20150819-6-supervillain-onslaught-update

    Apologies for the late post.
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