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For the millionth time, why is the bug for GWF's Unstoppable in PVP still present?

bozar3000bozar3000 Member Posts: 74
edited August 2013 in Bug Reports (PC)
I have been experiencing this bug since the time I started playing NW and had been burdened by this inconvenience which renders my GWF pretty useless in PVP because of how "Unstoppable" becomes worthless when the bug takes effect.

I think the bug which disables the activation of GWF's Unstoppable has something to do with TRs Dazing Strike, Smoke Bomb or whatever during a PVP match because every time I go against them there's a chance that my Utility Power "Unstoppable" would be permanently unusable throughout the match.

I cannot count on how many times I've posted about this problem and I'm truly disappointed that no action or even a reply from the admins is given so far so I could somehow have an idea that they were informed about this or perhaps working on a solution.

Please, please, please if you cannot immediately resolve this bug then perhaps leave a message regarding this matter so me and other people, especially those who plays as a GWF, could somehow find relief or the much needed answer.

Thanks and more power to you, guys.
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  • baronvonboombaronvonboom Member Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Ahh is that what that is.. an I thought I was going mad:)
    Only used my GWF in PvP once and this happened, there I was smashing Tab an nothing happening, assumed it was just a one off bug but as I see clearly not..

    This must be on the ignore until it goes away list they've got..
  • kattefjaeskattefjaes Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,270 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    I know that this might come as a shock, but it also happens in PvE. It hit me several times yesterday, as well as our GWF in CN, at the worst possible moment.

    It's a very long-standing bug, and it's ludicrous that it hasn't been addressed- but then so are many things.
  • metaplexusmetaplexus Member Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Got this two times on my TR as well, once in pvp and once in pve. The stealth meter would just stop regenerating at the middle. Dying already fixed it, so in pvp it is nowhere near as bad as GWF's bug. Also I know Unstoppable can bug several times in a very short time, when the stealth meter has jammed twice during, say, one month.

    edit: and of course, the pvp situation had something to do with others abilities, probably another rogue's Dazing strike.
  • bdragonbbdragonb Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 103 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Hey guys, dont press the devs, they are too busy creating new zen content.
  • germmaniacgermmaniac Member Posts: 204 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    kattefjaes wrote: »
    I know that this might come as a shock, but it also happens in PvE. It hit me several times yesterday, as well as our GWF in CN, at the worst possible moment.

    It's a very long-standing bug, and it's ludicrous that it hasn't been addressed- but then so are many things.

    Quite a frustrating bug, really. What is the point of a GWF which cannot use Unstoppable. I have set most of my feats and powers to maximize the use of Unstoppable. I am in full PvP gear expecting to take advantage of Unstoppable. And then Unstoppable does not work. In PvP. And now, sometimes even in PvE.
    No point for devs to be concentrating on tweaking skill damage for class balances, etc. when the bare minimum for GWF is fixing Unstoppable. Please Devs, fix this. Or it will kill GWF class.
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    it is not only pvp bug :( today it bugged to me in karru so unstoppable did not work whole time on last boss i tried to die and change keybind
  • serpinecohserpinecoh Member Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    warpet wrote: »
    it is not only pvp bug :( today it bugged to me in karru so unstoppable did not work whole time on last boss i tried to die and change keybind
    When it hits me mid-dungeon delve the only way I've ever been able to shake it is to relog. Since it puts me back into the dungeon it isn't to bad assuming it doesn't happen in the middle of a big fight, but it is extremely annoying.
  • tarmalentarmalen Member Posts: 1,020 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Experiencing this bug in PVP and PVE. Once it happens in PVP I become a glory pinata.

    When it happens in PVE I am thankful that we can still finish the run but boy does my DPS and survival take a nose dive.
  • jihancritiasjihancritias Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    bdragonb wrote: »
    Hey guys, dont press the devs, they are too busy creating new zen content.

    There you go. This is truth here. Read it again and again. Soak it in. Money first, then you get a game worth that money. F2P, yeah right. You're buying the game right now. Then they will make it worth playing.
    TL : DR? Then don't waste my time responding.
  • tarmalentarmalen Member Posts: 1,020 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    serpinecoh wrote: »
    When it hits me mid-dungeon delve the only way I've ever been able to shake it is to relog. Since it puts me back into the dungeon it isn't to bad assuming it doesn't happen in the middle of a big fight, but it is extremely annoying.

    Relogging before finishing the dungeon when the event ends is not an option.
  • evo404evo404 Member Posts: 49
    edited July 2013
    I am on the verge of deleting this god forsaken game every time this happens to me in a PvP or during a dungeon run (sometimes resulting in loss of DD chest if I re log to fix it). It happens ALL THE TIME. It's not like you can actually carry on with out it. GWF is rendered USELESS without Unstoppable.

    It is a complete slap in the face of the customers/player base that such a colossal, class-breaking bug has not been fixed by now. Honestly, how many months has this game been out and this is still an issue?! And there has been no official reply about this? The devs should be ashamed of themselves. I'm sorry to be so blunt about it but I'm fed up. Get your sh`t together and FIX THIS BUG!
  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It still broken for the same reasons that other bugs are present.
    Doesn't. Affect. Zen. Store.

    Think about it, CW feats are all messed up, GF's have broken T1 sets, Alchemy leveling in the Gateway is completely broken, Guild mail is broken(many guild members with the requisite permissions can't send them), Platesmithing L20 reinforced gloves are BoP compared to BoE for every other profession...etc

    What all those bugs have in common is that they don't affect their Zen sales directly, thus aren't worth their time(I'm sure the devs would love to fix them, but I guess they don't get to decide their priorities).
    RIP Neverwinter 26/06/2014
  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Perhaps they can not figure out how to fix it.
  • lostmarblesherelostmarbleshere Banned Users Posts: 654 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    bozar3000 wrote: »
    I have been experiencing this bug since the time I started playing NW and had been burdened by this inconvenience which renders my GWF pretty useless in PVP because of how "Unstoppable" becomes worthless when the bug takes effect.

    I think the bug which disables the activation of GWF's Unstoppable has something to do with TRs Dazing Strike, Smoke Bomb or whatever during a PVP match because every time I go against them there's a chance that my Utility Power "Unstoppable" would be permanently unusable throughout the match.

    I cannot count on how many times I've posted about this problem and I'm truly disappointed that no action or even a reply from the admins is given so far so I could somehow have an idea that they were informed about this or perhaps working on a solution.

    Please, please, please if you cannot immediately resolve this bug then perhaps leave a message regarding this matter so me and other people, especially those who plays as a GWF, could somehow find relief or the much needed answer.

    Thanks and more power to you, guys.

    Complaining About things for this game specific complaints dont get answered. They already know all the major issues wrong with the game. So whats the point of reposting them over and over again. A generalized angry post is better i think, more and more people everyday are realizing all the games faults and the lack of fixing them. The misguided sycophantic fanboys are getting fewer and fewer every day. Even the population on the forum seems to be dropping also.

    This company has to stop and say "Hey we are sorry, we now will be shifting all effort into making this game the best it can be. We are suspending or slowing down on making new content and going to focus on fixing the known issues with the game as it stands now. We are sorry and will post a future free pack to all that have stuck it out with us so far. After Feywild we will be focused on fixing the known issues and the new ones we just created with this expansion. We are sorry for the lack of testing any new content that has been released so far, we will in the future do are best in testing new content. "
  • moerevolvermoerevolver Member Posts: 128 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    daily bump.

    It didn't make it into this weeks bug fixes :(

    http://nw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=940711
  • tarmalentarmalen Member Posts: 1,020 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    skalt112 wrote: »
    Perhaps they can not figure out how to fix it.

    If the issue can not be resolved by current staff then they are idiots.

    I could not in good conscience continue to play and would use money ear marked for this hobby to be redistributed.
  • evo404evo404 Member Posts: 49
    edited July 2013
    bump.

    /10char
  • pelkastpelkast Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    bump for the millionth and one time

    Keep up guys! Fix is awarded for the first getting to 2 million! ;)
  • r0y0r0y0 Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    So that is what our GWF is screaming about on Mumble when he curses his TAB key into oblivion! Heh, I told him to search the forums, but most players do not. Ironically, since my launcher is killing my internet (and thus I cannot play), I can post here on his behalf.

    This happens all the time to him in Dungeon runs (PvE) content. All. The. Time.
    (and I play a TR)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • lordgallenlordgallen Member, NW_CrypticDev, Cryptic Developers Posts: 91
    edited July 2013
    Hi,
    This has been an issue too long without comment so I'm commenting.

    I would love to get this bug fixed. The main issue preventing it, is that apparently it's very difficult to reproduce in closed conditions, which of course makes it that much harder to narrow down what is actually wrong.

    So! the more info people can provide, the better.
    What hit you? What monster where you fighting? Was your latency bad? Did you have a feat that adjusted cooldowns? Where you rapidly mashing the button? Were you jumping?

    I've typically heard that it involves the Daze effect, but as I said, the more info the better. I've also heard that Knight's Valor will occasionally suffer from this issue as well.

    Anyhoo, thanks everyone, I hope we can get it fixed soon. Sorry for the inconvenience in the mean time. :(
  • chrispybrownchrispybrown Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yep, still going on, but with a twist. Instead of having an empty determination bar, it was full but I couldn't use the tab button to activate. This happened to me during a dungeon delve. Probably due to the same cause of being hit with a control power during the activation and animation of unstoppable.
  • durandurahandurandurahan Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lordgallen wrote: »
    Hi,
    This has been an issue too long without comment so I'm commenting.

    I would love to get this bug fixed. The main issue preventing it, is that apparently it's very difficult to reproduce in closed conditions, which of course makes it that much harder to narrow down what is actually wrong.

    So! the more info people can provide, the better.
    What hit you? What monster where you fighting? Was your latency bad? Did you have a feat that adjusted cooldowns? Where you rapidly mashing the button? Were you jumping?

    I've typically heard that it involves the Daze effect, but as I said, the more info the better. I've also heard that Knight's Valor will occasionally suffer from this issue as well.

    Anyhoo, thanks everyone, I hope we can get it fixed soon. Sorry for the inconvenience in the mean time. :(

    this bug only happens when enemy and I using skill at the same time or nearly at the same time. The skill enemy use is controlling skill and I use unstoppable, which is make me immune to controlling skill. The result of this collision, is the skill of enemy win and make unstoppable skill not active and can no longer be used.

    What hit you? What monster where you fighting? Almost all enemy in DD and PVP have controlling skill, the newest this bug happened to me, was in Epic Cragmire when I faced last boss. When the boss trying to knock off me, Iam using unstoppable and then this bug happened. Was your latency bad? My latency is quite good. Did you have a feat that adjusted cooldowns? yes, but unstoppable need no cooldown. Where you rapidly mashing the button? yes, if its suddenly not working, of course iam mashing the button. Were you jumping? No.

    sorry for bad english
  • pelkastpelkast Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I always mash tab and jump madly, don't expect me to play other way. But I've no clue what triggers the bug. It happens more often on pvp than pve, for me.
  • furion192furion192 Member Posts: 187 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Btw. Not only unstoppable, but also Impossible to catch of TR. I think TRs ITC doesnt work when I use ITC at the same time I was stunned or pushed by a GF.
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  • malkaviermalkavier Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    List of things I've found that can bug and and not work if they are interrupted at the split second between you pressing the activation keybind and the animation/effect applying:

    Unstoppable (I have yet to run into this bug, because knowing about it, I try to use it well before anyone would CC me, and if I don't have that time, I don't use it until after). This can be repeatedly shown to bug during any of the following: Knockback, Prone, Stun, Freeze from Icy Terrain/Ray of Frost/Tabbed Chill Strike, Entangling Force, Repel, Daze, Smoke Bomb, Impact Shot, Oppressive Force, Steal Time. I strongly suspect it can also bug out if that DC spell that "chains" you, is applied.

    Stealth (rare, but happens, and this includes the meter recharge)

    Anything a CW puts into the TAB slot with the exception of: RoE, Icy Terrain, Entangling Force, and Shards of the Endless Avalanche, Shield, Steal Time.

    Knight's Valor

    Impossible to Catch - rare, but happens, usually due to a knockback that is applied immediately during the animation.

    Repel (This thing can bug out and go on a stupidly long cooldown, we are talking anywhere between 2 and 30 minutes). This one was the interesting case - since it has a cooldown timer display, when this bug happens we can see it being put on an extensive cooldown. This can be bugged easily, for instance, by two CWs using Repel on one another at the exact same .5 to .8 second window of time.

    Courage Breaker - If proned/kb'd/stunned etc when you activate it, it can gray out the ability until a relog. This is the only TR daily I've found this happen to.

    Icy Rays - This thing has something wrong with the cast to start with, there is a stupid amount of delay for a skill that has no cast bar and next to no animation, but on top of this, if proned/knockbacked/otherwise cc'd during the cast, can go on one of those lengthy cooldowns.
    How Cryptic trolls the entire NWO playerbase: 9200 GS listed for CN, implying anyone who needs more has no skill.
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lordgallen wrote: »
    Hi,
    This has been an issue too long without comment so I'm commenting.

    I would love to get this bug fixed. The main issue preventing it, is that apparently it's very difficult to reproduce in closed conditions, which of course makes it that much harder to narrow down what is actually wrong.

    So! the more info people can provide, the better.
    What hit you? What monster where you fighting? Was your latency bad? Did you have a feat that adjusted cooldowns? Where you rapidly mashing the button? Were you jumping?

    I've typically heard that it involves the Daze effect, but as I said, the more info the better. I've also heard that Knight's Valor will occasionally suffer from this issue as well.

    Anyhoo, thanks everyone, I hope we can get it fixed soon. Sorry for the inconvenience in the mean time. :(

    I'm lvl 26 GWF. No recovery stat and no cooldown reducing abilities atm.
    Every time this bug happened to me, it happened against a control spell. Can't say the exact timing but i was not jumping, nor hitting the button like crazy. Last time i remember, i was about to pop Unstoppable, pressed the button but may be the control skill (a cleric, some sort of skill with Yellow aura and chains surrounding me) kicked in the exact same moment i used unstoppable. I got my determination meter filled up, tried several time to activate unstoppable after being released by the control effect, but couldn't get it to work. I died and couldn't use Unstoppable for the rest of the match, no matter how much determination i got.
    I get it back once i'm teleported out of the PVP arena.
    May be somehow when the control skill hits you exactly when you use unstoppable, it gets blocked permanently.
    Could start looking at how control skills and unstoppable interact when activated at the same time. Control skills prevent you from acting, and unstoppable negates the control effect. May be there's some kind of conflict.
  • furion192furion192 Member Posts: 187 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Srsly the devs will now when these kind of bug occurs if they play the GWF in PvP
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  • vallivvalliv Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    furion192 wrote: »
    Srsly the devs will now when these kind of bug occurs if they play the GWF in PvP

    I've playd Gwf for a while now(no, im not a dev), and I've never encountered this? I have done pvp since lvl 10, as soon as i was able, and do it every day at lvl 60 aswell.

    other minor things that bugg me, but not that the unstoppable stops working. (maybe im lucky ? I don't know).
    I jump and spam it like mad and get stunned and locked down and such, while trying to spam the unstoppable, but it works the next time.
    (If I want to be sure It kicks inn I try to do it while not too close to anyone who can stun me while I start it, but it kicks inn more often than not.)

    It seems that when multible CC effects slapp onto unstoppable while it's activating, it will break, but it works the next time i do it, if not being interupted (this doesn't happen too often that one cry's over it).

    The thing I like about this thread is that a dev is actually showing intrest ;)
    so a +1 for that.
  • evo404evo404 Member Posts: 49
    edited July 2013
    valliv wrote: »
    I've playd Gwf for a while now(no, im not a dev), and I've never encountered this? I have done pvp since lvl 10, as soon as i was able, and do it every day at lvl 60 aswell.

    other minor things that bugg me, but not that the unstoppable stops working. (maybe im lucky ? I don't know).

    You are very lucky. It's happened to me at least a dozen time in PvP alone. Probably another dozens times in dungeons. It's the most rage inducing thing every time it happens. It makes me wanna puke thinking about how long this game has been out and this bug has not been fixed and only now getting a response from a Dev (thank god).
  • evo404evo404 Member Posts: 49
    edited July 2013
    Happened to me twice in a very short amount of time last night. My ISP was lagging extremely bad at the time so maybe that had something to do with it.
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