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But how would you really know. When I'm playing, i'm often not looking at chat or outright ignoring it. Do you propose they pop you into "jail" for a Turing test to see if you are really there?
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I'd be happy if they ever really reduced the quantity of refinement items. Way back when they did the initial revamping of refinement, it was under the guise of reducing the amount of junk people had to carry around. Sadly it's gone off the rails.
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I'm pretty sure what they meant is people that are willing to do tasks that they deemed too menial and assumed only a bot would do. Like do all invokes on say 20 characters as well as leadership every day. Their net was set to catch some of this, and clearly it went too far and got people who were truly doing this stuff…
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That is a bunch of sophistry. If they are banning an account, they should be legally required to share it, not the other way round. Likewise, what kind of "privacy" reasons? We are talking about revealing info about the client to themselves. Do you need privacy from yourself in your own bathroom? Finally, the only way…
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Either they are detecting a bot or they aren't. If they are using statistics and think no human can play x # of hours a day, then they are NOT detecting bots, they are simply saying you are only allowed to play < x # of hours a day. Show me in the TOS where it says that? Likewise for # of invokes or leadership changes per…
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Yes, but it's kind of hard to present an argument/explanation when they don't provide even a shred of the so called evidence. If it had to do with too much leadership resources or playing 20 hours a day and you happened to have insomnia or something you could perhaps provide a doctors note as proof. Otherwise it's quite…
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I didn't misread your post. I agree with most of it. I did not like the verbiage of the one sentence as it implies that they unbanned botters because they were dedicated players. There were several ways to interpret what they meant by dedicated players and I choose (because I know it to be true in at least some instances)…
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Stop implying everyone that was banned and unbanned was a botter. I know several people that had been banned and unbanned that were not botters. If anyone had take the time to even remotely look at their accounts before the ban it would have been clear. The reason for their usage of the term dedicated players is due to the…
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That is not always true. Some use automated techniques and ban on demand. No need for CS to sit around and individually ban and no need for mistakes either.
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But they don't provide proof to players they ban and as such I don't believe they do have "proof" and as far as we are concerned they don't have said proof (pictures or it didn't happen). Sadly, the reason they can do this is that it's not worth the effort to take them to court and get a judge to order them to actually…
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There lies the problem. You can't prove you didn't bot, likewise, they currently can't prove you did. If they could, there would be no shroud of secrecy around their methodology. They would simply say we detected the following process: xxxxx interacted with the game client on xx/xx/xxxx at xx:xxxx therefore we are banning…
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If that was truly their intention (to get the gold farmers), and I would think it should be pretty easy to tell a gold farmer from a player (for argument sake even a cheating player). Then they should have reacted a LOT quicker to get the "players" back in the game. As someone stated, every banned player is a lost client.…
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It's also impossible to prove you never botted. Sadly, I don't think they have proof that anyone botted. If they did, this situation wouldn't have occurred. Clearly they are using heuristics to flag patterns of usage as botting. Unfortunately, in a game that was arguably designed for bots, anyone but the most casual of…
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Are you serious? When you accept payment for services and such, you are under an obligation to provide it. If that were not the case, there would be nothing to stop a company from selling you something, taking your money and never providing what you paid for. Call it at 100% profit scenario. Despite what you think they do…
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> @armadeonx said: > > @armadeonx said: > > > Whilst I agree that disclosing the exact methods of detection and functions that are monitored would be detrimental to their ability to detect botting, it is both fair and prudent for players to be given guidelines on what is and is not acceptable. > > > > > >…
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The fact that this question needs to be asked, speaks volumes for just how disastrous the most recent ban wave is. Clearly, they banned people without proof that folks were botting. They simply interpreted some statistics to imply someone was botting. As others have stated, address the repetitive bot like gameplay and this…
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> @armadeonx said: > Whilst I agree that disclosing the exact methods of detection and functions that are monitored would be detrimental to their ability to detect botting, it is both fair and prudent for players to be given guidelines on what is and is not acceptable. > > Working on the assumption that "normal players 'do…