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metalldjt
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so any new stuff planned for the Great Weapon Fighter class
LE:
so here is what i think it should be done:
it would be awesome to have this
-pre DR determination
-4s takedown/fls stun that can't be deflected anymore.
-Mark From Threating rush and Darking shout should be removed so that there won't be any more double mark bug , but the GWF should put the mark on the target from the first strike and it should lasts for 10seconds with 1-2s cooldown.
-Unstopable Should lasts for 5-10s.
-a better responsive sprint.
as we have paragons that are useless right now, sentinel and instigator they need to overlook them a little
Student of the sword should give 10-15% RI when crit
Vicious advantage should give 10-15% crit and damage.
Group Assault should buff wicked strike for 20-30% dmg increase.
reinforced surge should give a 1s stun and deal 10% more damage.
and Instigator Vengence should give more damage bonus between 50-100% dmg bonus.
Sentinel was a great paragon, and we suggested that it needed a nerf, but the nerf just destroyed a new style of doing pvp, and i am really upset about this.
the change on INTIMIDATION that the damage should come from weapon damage is a great idea, but 125% is really really LOW, especially that the only amplifier remaining is Damage bonus from Power. so to make it worth again it needs to be atleast 250% or 350% weapon damage.
and Sentinel Aegis needs again a rework.
Destroyer is way dependent on the Indomitable Battle Strike, and i wish it will end up being less effecting in matter of Burst damage. i know this might sound harsh, but that is it, i wish more damage on teh atwills while the encounters should provide more utility, similar to a TRickster rougue stile, i wish the atwills will deal tremendous power and the encounters should be more of utility some sort of stuns/buffs etc.
something like battle fury should be buffing us like into the frey.
LE:
so here is what i think it should be done:
it would be awesome to have this
-pre DR determination
-4s takedown/fls stun that can't be deflected anymore.
-Mark From Threating rush and Darking shout should be removed so that there won't be any more double mark bug , but the GWF should put the mark on the target from the first strike and it should lasts for 10seconds with 1-2s cooldown.
-Unstopable Should lasts for 5-10s.
-a better responsive sprint.
as we have paragons that are useless right now, sentinel and instigator they need to overlook them a little
Student of the sword should give 10-15% RI when crit
Vicious advantage should give 10-15% crit and damage.
Group Assault should buff wicked strike for 20-30% dmg increase.
reinforced surge should give a 1s stun and deal 10% more damage.
and Instigator Vengence should give more damage bonus between 50-100% dmg bonus.
Sentinel was a great paragon, and we suggested that it needed a nerf, but the nerf just destroyed a new style of doing pvp, and i am really upset about this.
the change on INTIMIDATION that the damage should come from weapon damage is a great idea, but 125% is really really LOW, especially that the only amplifier remaining is Damage bonus from Power. so to make it worth again it needs to be atleast 250% or 350% weapon damage.
and Sentinel Aegis needs again a rework.
Destroyer is way dependent on the Indomitable Battle Strike, and i wish it will end up being less effecting in matter of Burst damage. i know this might sound harsh, but that is it, i wish more damage on teh atwills while the encounters should provide more utility, similar to a TRickster rougue stile, i wish the atwills will deal tremendous power and the encounters should be more of utility some sort of stuns/buffs etc.
something like battle fury should be buffing us like into the frey.
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Yea, the class is in dire need of a rework so not only Destroyers get to enjoy the game. But well, I've been PMing Crush and Panderus with Sentinel problems just to hear crickets back. I guess they don't even care.
give them a dodge already
Yeah, because every GWF is Destroyer, right? What about Sentinels who are supposed to be tanks but have even lower survivability than Destroyers? What about Instigators who are supposed to be in the middle between a tank and dps but instead has half the dps and survivability of Destroyer?
Ok legitimately other paths need a buff or fix of some kind. But this is true of most classes. For most classes one feat tree simply works better than the others. This was easier for me because my GWF was always a DPS build. But really I was wondering and still am what OP's suggestion was to impliment that. My suggestion would be to put something really strong 3-4 into a feat tree so people cannot twink it into a WM Desi build.
A less random build up of determination would be great as well.
But overall, I'm seriously very, very pleased with my GWF.
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
Highest weapon dmg, highest buff stacks in the game.
In tiamat no need for other classes only 25 GWFs!
GWFs are doing 80 million according to ACT while others(SW, HR, CW) do 50 million.
Certain "cooperative-player" and "nice" GWFs already making sport of kicking other ppl out from custom Tiamat channels...
@ralexinor
sw/ fury and rangers/archery yes deserve some buff (not a dot madness o instant kill aoe burst PLEASE).
50k still to much for cws. hueheuehu (no, is ok)
BUT the topic talk about sentinels (and/or instigators)
Not to mention that GWF can't do **** against piercing damage and deflect stacking TRs.
Punishing Strike is awesome vs. bosses. Immediate get out of red for free card.
Yea, and waste an encounter just for that? Restoring strike recovers your stamina so you won't have problem getting out of reds.
CWs has dps paragon trees as well.
lol. Is this speech from Braveheart or sg?
No! Tankier classes should have lesser dps than weaker classes.
No point in having the best dps and having the more tankier.
Its a trade off!
Shouldn't be taht bigger difference between dps classes.
Interestingly TRs never complained about it to kill CWs.
Let me help:
Don't start with your big hitter.
2 hits and shield is gone...
gwf still have a defender tree, and a defender paragon but is not a defender like gfs and paladins... now you know what is suposed to support.
and unstopable has 15-30% DR + cc breaker nooblet!
Yea, except that it only lasts 4-8s and requires you to lose like 1/3rd of your hp. Whereas CW shield lasts the whole time. What a ****ing idiot.