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candinho2
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I've seen alot of foruns post, also devs working on other classes, but so far not a single word on SW problems,
We've Arms of hadar(wich worked just fine before some bright mind changed it's annimation and bkoke it all making it not hit anything more than 2 targes and it must be in front of the SW)
Also Fury patch is totaly broken, unwanted
Damnation feat spirit fire(or something like that) isn't working as intended, it should do 50% weapon damage wich should be 600+ and it hit for 120 so its not working.
Also Dmanation puppets should have 100~150k hp but it has 25k wich make it die on a single hit, as it should heal sw for 15% it's damage, but i never saw it working at all.
Also Puppet don't teleport to boss roon,(i found a way arround by using the help/gm helm/stuck/stuck on object/die, then summon puppet inside boss roon)
So what'll be done for SW's??
Any word would be great
So far i haven't saw any dev post on sw forun or anywhere else!
Deathlock one of a few SW's left on server, but not spending money anymore xD
We've Arms of hadar(wich worked just fine before some bright mind changed it's annimation and bkoke it all making it not hit anything more than 2 targes and it must be in front of the SW)
Also Fury patch is totaly broken, unwanted
Damnation feat spirit fire(or something like that) isn't working as intended, it should do 50% weapon damage wich should be 600+ and it hit for 120 so its not working.
Also Dmanation puppets should have 100~150k hp but it has 25k wich make it die on a single hit, as it should heal sw for 15% it's damage, but i never saw it working at all.
Also Puppet don't teleport to boss roon,(i found a way arround by using the help/gm helm/stuck/stuck on object/die, then summon puppet inside boss roon)
So what'll be done for SW's??
Any word would be great
So far i haven't saw any dev post on sw forun or anywhere else!
Deathlock one of a few SW's left on server, but not spending money anymore xD
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We're closing in on 2 month since the release of mod 6 which have left the class barely playable (unless BiS/close to BiS) and totally NOT fun (rather frustrating I'd say) to play.
A word or two on what we're standing on would be highly appreciated!.
It's evident that General Discussion is visited more often than Class Forums (not counting OPs board since it's a new class and they can't afford to not keep it well fed) and I don't think it's bad that we would like to hear SOMETHING regarding our class and it's future. Like, anything.
I don't know what class are you playing but you should prolly hop back onto the bandwagon you stepped out off to post here since you must have no problems with your class at all. But guess what, I do have with mine and I'd love them fixed or at least be informed about the course of action. Right now SW playerbase is mostly absent and left hanging in the void. I don't think it's bad to seek information/answers.
OP is not "ranting" about bugs or certain SW aspects, but is asking a valid question about the future of Scourge Warlock, which is now one big question point. I know it's hard to understand for people petting their CW epeens.
Exatly this, ty
Nothing more has been said since
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Since then - slence.
lol. Sws made for epeen and they are talkin' ?
If you want advice use damnation! OP Soul puppet do 1million+ dmg
I would like to see that... most of the time, they either dont spawn or just die within seconds.
Btw. hitting the Target Dummy for a while in Trade for Blades does not count.
I bet you're one of these types that use Lostmauth set and says it's legit even though it's clearly not WaI.
But hey, guess what, some of us want to play the game legit, not relying on broken stuff. IF the puppet is indeed dealing so much damage then it's not WaI and I for one refuse to use it. Even if it would happen to not be broken I still refuse to use it since that path is simply not my thing. Adapting is one thing but being forced into specific path to stay relevant is pure bs.
P.S.
Try to keep this conversation as civilized as possible or do us all a favor and get back under your bridge.
Ironically, this.
The only changes to SW we're even remotely likely to see will be fixing the exploits and bugs, like the 0 damage thing and the puppet doing stupidly high damage.
As for the rest of the fixes, QoL changes, reworks, redesigns, pretty much anything that would benefit the class, the likelihood of that is insanely low.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
here is a ACT chart for my SW while running encounters in IWD for 20 minutes. The min hit with wrath claw was at 4k and it's maximimum was at 30k. The average hit it was doing 13k. There have been times i've seen it get up to 80k, but that is rare when it happens and it did not occur when I was running encounters in IWD.
http://i.imgur.com/d5imLUF.jpg
The Holy Crusaders guild leader ♚ Mod 10 PVE Destroyer GWF guide ♚ Founding member of the Relentless Alliance
I'm gonna go ahead and assume you've never touched SW.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
*claps*, aren't you a sorcerer? Please, provide logs of a good geared (and actual good player) Damnation SW doing poor damage, I want to see them. No fabled, just raw damage.
The Holy Crusaders guild leader ♚ Mod 10 PVE Destroyer GWF guide ♚ Founding member of the Relentless Alliance
Well you sure loaded that up with ways to subjectively dismiss whatever he might post in response. I mean, it seems easy to brag about how good you are with a 4.7k item level, but who knows? I'd like to see you try that class yourself before you come in here trying to tell people what's what.
Pretty much this.
Damnation already has a handful of problems with not only feats but also core mechanics. Ironically, Damnation still puts out lower DPS than Fury in PvE. Even more ironically, Fury DPS leaves a lot to be desired when considering the abundant nerfs since release.
The class "isn't fine".
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
Serious question - are you mentally challenged?. I mean, you say that despite 2 things being said earlier:
1. soul puppet dmg is not WaI and is gonna get fixed soon enough
2. some of us don't like to rely on 25k hp puppet which disappears as soon as a single mob notice it
Not all of us are 4,7k iL wallet warriors and I do think that the game should be balanced around whole class spectrum, not only BiS toons. There's absolutely no reason for a class to perform good only when BiS/near BiS and be frustrating otherwise.
I'm gonna repeat myself - not all of us like to play around bugs, some of us want to play the game legit. Damnation puppet is not legit. And without it, the class is not doing what it's supposed to do - it's not doing damage respectable for a Striker class.
Inst or Sent GWF paths are not doing well atm but as Destroyer you can at least do 1/2 of what's class supposed to be (Striker/Defender).
Atm, SW have nothing: Temptation not viable thanks to LS change, Damnation bugged and not WaI, Fury doing medicore damage for a path DESIGNED TO DO DAMAGE AND NOTHING ELSE. No control, no significant party buffs/debuffs, no healing, nothing.
The Holy Crusaders guild leader ♚ Mod 10 PVE Destroyer GWF guide ♚ Founding member of the Relentless Alliance
Nah. It's more you being an ignorant blowhard that I take issue with. Ignorant because as you said, you don't play this class. Blowhard, because despite the fact that you don't know what you're talking about, you run your mouth as though you do.
I only mentioned your item level because I doubt you're challenged by much with that kind of an investment in that character, so your insulting, dismissive arrogance is only magnified and highlighted by the minimal challenges you most likely face. I say that actually having played a non-BiS GWF fairly extensively.
This feels pretty much like I'm experiencing also. Thankfully I had a big old stack of free greater health stones lying around from pre Mod6 days to make daily stuff fail painless but that's a pretty big crutch for what I used to call solo play.
We should have specialized SW only LS mechanic, doesn't even have to be exactly like it used to be just something with some consistency. I've read 3000 or so was supposed to make it feel at least somewhat consistent, I do not agree, not t with the damage even open area mobs are doing.
We just gave you reasons.
We also find it ironic that a 4.7k GWF is saying SW is fine.
It's even more ironic that you don't defend yourself when we say you've never touched the class.
Then again, if I knew I was wrong, I'd try to ignore it too.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
And it would be so easy: Exchange one of the fourth tier Temptation feats for "+3/6/9/12/19 Lifesteal chance" and all would go smoothly. Or maybe even 4-20%. It wouldn't make the class OP, as it wouldn't increase damage, maybe even lower it, depending on which feat gets replaced. And maybe attenuate the capstone multiplier...
I'm not impressed with your posts. Say what? you're supposed to play a class to have an opinion about it? Good to know. You're so afraid the QQ's won't be high enough for the devs to hear, and any other opinion can go die, because simply you want DA BUFFZ. Lookie here, I'll use my BiS state to say SW's DPS is FAIR. It's not low, they roflstomp cw's with ease and any other class up until GWF. I'm talking from a prespective of a guild leader with SW guildies and friends, no one above 3k even, so seriously, shut it. I'm a fact person, when I see damage and when I look up logs and see there's 0 use of current exploits or former exploits, and it's COMPLTELEY LEGIT (Dismissing Damnation's stupid puppets), I can say whatever the hell I want. I don't need to defend myself in front of you, or anyone, and most definitely not back off because I don't play the class or ever did. Sit the hell down and keep crying, I'm out of here.
The Holy Crusaders guild leader ♚ Mod 10 PVE Destroyer GWF guide ♚ Founding member of the Relentless Alliance
Such glorious tears. Sure you don't wanna keep 'em coming? I'm enjoying this.
I'm not impressed with your posts either. Allow me to explain.
First off, yes. You should play the class before you start to talk about it. You have SW friends in your guild? Great! That doesn't make you an expert. I have GWF friends but I wouldn't even begin to talk about the specifics of the class or even say it's "doing just fine".
Secondly, "fair" doesn't really cut it. For example, HR damage is "fair" but they make up for it with some modicum of utility. Currently, Warlock provides nothing but raw DPS. Unfortunately, that raw DPS is wasted on 90% of any dungeon or skirmish. Warlock excels in prolonged fights - IE bosses. Ironically, other classes can pump out good trash clearing potential, utility, and solid single target DPS. Which begs the question - why bring a SW?
Thirdly, yes, you do need to defend yourself. You don't come into a SW thread with 0 knowledge of the class and start spouting bull****. It's hilarious because when your stupid *** got proven wrong, you ran away. It's a shame they don't sell common sense in the Zen shop.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
Back to on the topic, Strum came in, left a part of him in 'fun' thread (forum event thread) and ventured onwards to do some more of this important stuff. I'm just... nevermind...