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lirithiel
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I only saw this today from the preview shard. Potentially a good move.
Gauntlgrym PvP: Has been updated to a 10v10 player PvP Domination match. The map now supports levels 60-70 and bolsters to level 70. The buffs for capturing points, catapults and the giant have been removed.
However, my concern is that the map is too large for only 10v10 pvp, unless they are reducing the size as well? At least it gives us another option. 5v5 always felt too much like arena in WoW - 10v10 has a better feel imo and would allow small skirmishes all over the map.
Pvp: Characters remain on map for 15 seconds following logout
Awesome move for those <bleep> who prevent you from executing them for the achievements. Nice to know the devs are picking up on things like this.
I'd like to make another suggestion devs. Is it not possible to incorporate IWP and DV pvp zones into 10v10 domination as well? It's a well-known fact that these two zones don't get used very much anymore for pvp. Would be sad to see them both go to waste as they are both beautiful pvp zones. Perhaps have separate instances where they can still be used for open world pvp but also as an option for domination through queuing. There would be no need to add further pvp maps if this was implemented in some way along with the reworked GG.
Gauntlgrym PvP: Has been updated to a 10v10 player PvP Domination match. The map now supports levels 60-70 and bolsters to level 70. The buffs for capturing points, catapults and the giant have been removed.
However, my concern is that the map is too large for only 10v10 pvp, unless they are reducing the size as well? At least it gives us another option. 5v5 always felt too much like arena in WoW - 10v10 has a better feel imo and would allow small skirmishes all over the map.
Pvp: Characters remain on map for 15 seconds following logout
Awesome move for those <bleep> who prevent you from executing them for the achievements. Nice to know the devs are picking up on things like this.
I'd like to make another suggestion devs. Is it not possible to incorporate IWP and DV pvp zones into 10v10 domination as well? It's a well-known fact that these two zones don't get used very much anymore for pvp. Would be sad to see them both go to waste as they are both beautiful pvp zones. Perhaps have separate instances where they can still be used for open world pvp but also as an option for domination through queuing. There would be no need to add further pvp maps if this was implemented in some way along with the reworked GG.
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lel, such a heinous crime, devs should rather pick up on gross class imbalance in my opinion
also can't you just click release?
Its relatively simple we are already experiencing 20 minutes queues.
You cant try to fix something without solid roots.
If this mechanic persists even in normal domination PvP, then it can only mean a good thing.
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I dont see how IWD/DW benefitting 15 seconds logout change because most players just farm achviements with guild/friends, so leaving map 15 seconds penalty feels weird and it wuold be nice try 10 vs. 10 premade on current PvP maps.
Very much so. There is a thread around somewhere illustrating a whole page of TR's running amok in GG. Unfortunately our super mod killed it because he didn't deem it worthy
Well as I understood it people were logging off in IWD to prevent the opponent from executing. I don't know if using the shift-2 had a slight delay whereas logging off was instantaneous. Obviously there is a very good reason this new method was implemented even if we don't really know why.
And not everyone does IWD pvp as a group. I never did, always ran in there solo. I wish all domination matches were 10v10 tbh. Yes the current 2 maps would have to be embiggened which I doubt will ever happen but 5v5 just never felt the right balance to me.
On the subject of GG 10v10, so it will be domination now, does that mean you can queue for it like with the 5v5 domination matches? Dev wasn't very clear on that.
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I can call them what I want because it's petty to pull a move like that to attempt to screw someone else over. It can even be deemed as an exploit, something that was not meant to be allowed. Now the devs are making sure it cannot happen anymore.
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Shift+2 is just business as usual though. You're not actually ditching your match.
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God do you even read? You were talking about logging out, I responded.
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Touche
But you alluded to it without actually using the word. Lemme attempt to clear it up for you. I was talking about logging off during pvp and the shenanigans that go along with it. You were the one who brought up shift-2. It was never in the original topic. It still has nothing to do with logging off.
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there are people who enjoy gg? the only enjoyable thing I found in it was playing bowling using shard of the endless avalanche and the enemy team camping our spawn point, but that's my personal mini-game and I doubt it was intended.
simple math ... if you have imbalanced pvp, then 20vs20 is better than 5vs5. more balanced, because two overpowered TR dont mean sure win...
Lol. It has nothing to do with that. People just press shift+2, not logging out. It's a measure aimed at possible disconnects during the pvp matches, when you can't join the game again after logging back in.
I have no idea where the confusion has come in. Maybe because English is not your first language? I never claimed/suggested/indicated that Shift-2 was an exploit, but rather logging out when someone has killed you. Simple as. There cleared it up for everyone.
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How so? Base camping is surrendering, made slow due to lack of a surrender vote or something similar.
Why would a 15sec logout-countdown prevent that?
And 10 vs 10, 5 vs. 5, or 25 vs 25 - If one team is overwhelmingly stronger, it'll rush the base sooner or later. Why would that be in any way more difficult by 10 vs. 10 as opposed to 20 vs 20?
10 less lashing blades you need to evade as you try to run past them?
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...but also less lemmings jumping off the cliff with you to catch them instead of you... :^/
Bolster: To increase or strengthen something.
Basically what is going to happen in Mod 6 is that those below lvl 70 will get raised to lvl 70 as was done in the pre-60 lvl pvp brackets. However, this will also apply to pve with Tiamat AFAIK.
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