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thesensai
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Rather than have praying be a timed countdown thing, have it reset to new coins at 3:00 am like all the quests and gateway dice roll
Bennifits:
-Game needs to keep track of less data. It would be the same time for all toons on every account, rather than thousands of toons having different counters.
-Very nice for people with varying schedules. Happy players are spending players.
-Nice for all players, since you wont have to keep track of when you prayed last to get your coins, just have to hit it once per day at least. Less frustration.
drawbacks:
Very few. There still needs to be a 60 min timer to keep track when the next pray can be done
Bennifits:
-Game needs to keep track of less data. It would be the same time for all toons on every account, rather than thousands of toons having different counters.
-Very nice for people with varying schedules. Happy players are spending players.
-Nice for all players, since you wont have to keep track of when you prayed last to get your coins, just have to hit it once per day at least. Less frustration.
drawbacks:
Very few. There still needs to be a 60 min timer to keep track when the next pray can be done
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The timer to lose coins is *30* hours. That's a day and a half. Things are fine as they are. As for anyone who loses their coins: shouldn't have procrastinated so long if they're that important to you. Also, you can always log into Gateway and invoke to refresh your 30 hour timer to not lose your coins. See? You don't even have to log into the game.
I like the Invoking as it is. I wouldn't object to the daily reset schedule method, but I'd rather the Devs work on other stuff like fixing bugs, getting new module out and all that. Hey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
The flipside of invokes being on a personal timer is that not doing it at the same time all the time means that when you get coins changes. "Ok, so if I subtract 5 hours, I can bump it back, and...."
I *personally* don't have issues with the current system. But I totally understand why it's harder for other people.
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Losing coins is rarely an issue. But getting your daily 2k RAD from invokes can be problematic. For example, my schedule is different on workdays and weekends and some days I only get 1k because of I cant time the other 2 invokes. Just letting us invoke 3 times in a fixed 24 hours will make things easier.
I am not suggesting changing the 30 hours for losing all temp coins. As for "invoking" on gateway (does not get you new coins), that requires doing a sword coast adventure dungeon, and if trying to do that on a cell phone is a major lag pain, if it works at all, but I wasn't even talking about that.
The issue I was talking about was when your NEW coins for the day resets, not when temp coins disappear.
I think removing the tons of timers keeping track of that for all the thousands of toons couldn't hurt the game's performance.
Also it IS broke, for people with changing shift schedules. A set time everyday, gives flexibility for everyone, and most of the tech is in game already, via daily quest reset.
I seriously doubt they use an actual timer, they probably just do a clock check when the character next logs in. Ie. whenever you last invoked is stored with your character data and when you next log in it is compared to the current time to determine if your coins are removed or not. So the server time saved by making this change would likely be minimal, if any, and unnoticeable as far as players are concerned.
And your system wouldn't really do much toward making it more accessible either. The current system gives 10 hours of wiggle room, 6 hours after and 4 hours before a player chosen invoke time. Yours would give 24 hours of wiggle room but with a set invoke time.
Consider someone who typically plays from 12 (midnight) server time until 2am server time, for whatever reason they aren't able to log on until 4 hours later the next day. They would lose their coins with your system, but not the current one.
As long as there's a timer, there are going to be people who lose their coins, that's just the way it is.
Okay, Panic.
It's not there to give you 2k RAD. It's there to keep you playing.
The first one gives you the biggest chunk, then you have to be back again for the second chunk, and back again for the last of it, or stay on the whole time and get them each hour.
Changing it to 2k 1/day in one shot would remove this. Since it is in their best interests to have you in the game, rather than logging in for the short time it takes to invoke and set your professions, I don't see them changing this.
I wasn't suggesting changing that to 2k once a day, JUST having reset time be static at 3:00 am like quests. Feel free to pray 3 times between 3 am and 3am for regular rewards.
Yes, I get it: unless you invoke religiously (pun intended, heh) then the time to receive your ardent coin (the permanent one) get pushed outward - so instead of it taking 360 days to receive your Angel of P it can actually end up being 370 or more. I don't have a problem with the current system, though I admit I would like the 3 A.M. reset system better.
My previous comment was more directed at the people who tend to always complain that maintenance time causes them to lose their temporary coins.
If they were going to change anything in this area then I'd vote for a simpler and quicker method to extend the timer via the gateway. The current method is not very practical if you have loads of toons.
The only specific problem I have with invoking is there is no timer displayed except for the 1 hour cooldown. I wish a timer were displayed to let you know when the next coin would b available. But I wont lose sleep over it. Invoke 2 times a day, be happy. If your coins get wiped, start over (you probably didnt really lose that much)
The current system of about 30 hours works, and gives a bit more leeway than a 24-hour time-point approach.
However, if changing the invoke cycle to match the daily quest/dungeon reset time-point will result in less data glut, I would LOVE to see it changed!!
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Yes - the rewards are in DIRE need of revision! I think a big mistake was made with allowing the Angel of Protection to be unbound and sellable. It could have been a nice rare companion for those who spent a year working invoking every day - now anyone can get one for cheap. Also, those weapons you can buy along the way are absolute garbage - no one wants to waste ardent coins on that stuff - and those items have been there since the early days of the game. TIME TO UPDATE, developers!
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
I'd like the invoking to reset the same time as dailies personally. Currently my invoking pattern on all three toons are completely out of whack. Having invoking cycle reset at a specific time would make it easier to manage for me.
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Sometimes i get 1 peridot, sometimes three rank 4 enchants. It is like a joke. You must reward your loyal players with much worth things.
Should I change my whole life to have less than 50 odd days per year? A bit overkill don't you think?
This is all good and true, but I am simply interested about reducing stored game data. If changing invoking to match the daily quest reset timer reduces this, I think it should be implemented - should be an easy fix.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Actually, the window is more like 10 hours. You have between the 20th and 30th hours since the last time you got coins. One busy day can wipe that window out pretty easily. And, who thinks about their days like this, anyway? Hmm, has it been 20 hours since the last time I ....? The unnatural definition of a "day" takes a few hours off the window just from uncertainty.
Yes, you can get an extension if you can stand to use Gateway, but that's its own set of problems.
The proposal would turn a difficult to remember/predict 10 hour window into a standard 24 hour window.
That seems downright reasonable.
On the other hand, we have "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." At best, the reasoning against the proposal, then, is that there are other things that could be fixed instead? Judging from the track record here, I can't see the basis for assuming something genuinely broken would likely get fixed if this did not. Seems like the to-do list is pretty much randomized at Cryptic.
In the end it doesn't really matter, but it would be a better system imo for a daily reset.