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cyberwolf516
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i really think its time you did away with real money respec token 300 zen is £6 every time i want to try something new
it is unreasonable to charge real money to re spec your toon i have never played a game that dose that
i understand you need to make money but £6 to respec you skills and or path is disgusting and i know people are going to say you dont need to spend money you can convert AD to zen blar blar blar well that is true if you have the time to farm AD and if you look most things on AH sell now for next to nothing
i mean not even a free respec at 60 are you that hard up guys ???????? i should not have to pay to respec my toon
anyone agree with this ???
it is unreasonable to charge real money to re spec your toon i have never played a game that dose that
i understand you need to make money but £6 to respec you skills and or path is disgusting and i know people are going to say you dont need to spend money you can convert AD to zen blar blar blar well that is true if you have the time to farm AD and if you look most things on AH sell now for next to nothing
i mean not even a free respec at 60 are you that hard up guys ???????? i should not have to pay to respec my toon
anyone agree with this ???
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Go there and reset your character unlimited number of times until you are happy with your build.
The ZAX is your friend. At most it will only ever cost you 150,000AD to respec. It's not hard to make that, even with lower prices, just selling drops you can make 60kAD a gaming session with no real problems.
Actually it takes a week as the rad cap is 24000, 150,000/24,000 is 6.25 Other than the numbers being wrong I agree with you however.
Ah, fair point. Forgot about the refining cap and how irritating that it when you max it on any given day.
Dont be mad cuz you didnt think of it.. it isnt about having tons of AD but using that AD wisely with the tools available.
Because it's not "PWE standards". Not every PWE game comes with a free respec while leveling and the charge for respecs in those games is signficantly more than in here (1500 ZEN in many cases).
OP: Let's play devil's advocate for a minute here. Suppose they do get rid of the ZEN cost. It's not gonna be free...so let's get past that.
A feat only respec is about 80k AD. Therefore, 125k AD or so wouldn't be unreasonable for a full respec. Now, it's been stated in this very thread that at most a respec token would cost 150k AD if converted from AD to ZEN, and that's with the ZEN/AD rate capped.
Now, if you say that you have such a hard time farming 150k AD to convert to the requisite ZEN, I wonder just how in the Nine Hells you'd be able to farm only marginally less?
Again, they're not going to make it totally free.
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pwe. nerfs our classes there's a respec £6
pwe makes changes that dont result in feat points being reset £6
pwe brings us a new path guess what £6 to try it
then if you respec at a cost of £6 and make a mistake with one of your points GUESS what thats another £6
charging for mounts and race rerole and so on is one thing charging to respec your toon is another
to charge us £6 everytime we need to make a change is utterly unreasonable and if you think im just crying about it go and watch the dozens of state of the game youtube vids or the chat in well of dragons with ppl who cant afford a faster mount so miss out on the TIMED dragons. and before you say there is plenty of time to get there go and see how fast the dragons go down and come back and say it.
In light of this being added, the preview server is your best option to test a build without having to invest any money/ADs until you are certain.
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Usually the ingame AD to zen option is less than or about equal to the purchased one, unless you are level 60 and have all of the boons. Then it is better to get the purchased one.
I will not include a means to get AD quickly here, but suffice it to say, doing the dailies is not the manageable way to get lots of AD every day.
Also, the winter event gave free respec tokens (bound per account) a lot. I have 12 of them that I still have not used. So, if you skip the big events, you may miss free stuff.
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fyi it does not download the whole thing again. It just copies all of the files you have and downloads the ones that need changing or adding. The only time when updates are huge is when a new mod is being put on preview for testing.
When there are massive changes to a class, they are usually given a free (and sometimes forced) respec. With smaller changes, if you want to stay competitive in a f2p game, then guess what? that part is not free.
I think it's a very reasonable amount to charge seeing that you can earn that AD/ZEN for free in the game quite easily, and you shouldn't need to respec so often.
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The only part that gets me is that when they have added paragon paths the past few times they have not given free changes to existing characters of that class to switch if they wanted to. That is the one and only issue I have with it.
Feat reset is 80k AD. No real money required, by way of pointing you back to your original request:
You're usually afforded plenty of time to save up the necessary AD to convert to ZEN.
An error on your part does not constitute an emergency on theirs, nor a requirement to lower or eliminate the cost of respec tokens due to player error.
I'll also echo what other posters have said: The winter event gave out a LOT of free respec tokens. I'm holding onto two, in fact, just in case.
Bottom line is that it isn't the fact the respec costs real money here--that's just a red herring. The real issue you have is that a respec costs anything at all. Free respecs, at will, just ain't happening.
Why not just say what you really want: "I want to respec whenever I want, totally free." Because that's the gist of what you're saying. "If it's not free, it's unreasonable!!" is what we're seeing.
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Yeah they have been quite tight about that, especially compare to earlier modules that gave out free respec for smaller changes.
I would also want to say, look out for sales on respec tokens. That's a good time to stock up 1 or 2 on the char that you often want to respec. They do store up when you have multiple, however they are bound to that character instead of account. Perhaps an account bound respec token is more reasonable.
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Actually it is 1500 zen for a full respec (character re-roll to change your starting stats).
The 300 zen respec isn't a full respec, however you slice it.
Your char stats are the same as selecting a race with racials. If you do it right you wont need to respect that- if you do it wrong you need to pay. Be happy for 1500zen which you can even buy for AD, in wow you need to pay 20€ for that.
Even though in game respec is better in wow
WoW respec - take 60g max if you respec many times in row ( you can make over 100g per one dung run)
NW respec- take 78k ad (3day refine..)
300 Zen at 500 AD per = 150,000 AD.
Add on that they were given out like candy during Winter Fest. Yeah, I don't see an issue.
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I do think you should get a free respec token when reaching level 60 (or 70 now). Otherwise the price is reasonable for such a big change.
I prefer the 150k AD to following scenario:
Respec is free.
But in order to get one (1) free respec token you have to do the whole storyline again (all the quests), then you get your free respec.
Would be sensible, you want to unlearn and learn everything a new!
I prefer 150k AD earned in the way I prefer to some other "forced" grinding.
It's just a kind of "point of view" issue ... you might think that a kind of "half respec tokens" sometimes drop from bosses. Yes, they do.
They are called "Greater Mark of Potency". Just run enough dungeons to get 2 of said tokens and you can exchange them for a respec token. There. Just PvE grind and you can get a respec token! No dailies or invoking needed! No rAD needed! You just need 2 lucky drops and win the "need" roll!
I do agree though that 2 free full respecs should be given. Once at 30, then again at 60. I also feel that with the level cap coming, if they do implement incremental free respecs, the 2nd respec should then come at level 70.
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