i can't stop laughing at how crazy this class is right now (btw, i play 60 gwf/tr/dc/cw)
melt people in seconds
can we please get some kind of idea that the devs are listening and seeing this for themselves?
this isn't exactly a nerf thread, i'm playing a **** CW, it's a wow we got overbuffed thread
no, assailant force didn't fix anything, that was never the problem
storm spell + feated ray of frost (50% to add another chill) + shatter = ez mode win
i honestly don't even know what to say or ask anymore
why? why was this implemented like this?
(and i'm not even touching eye of the storm and it's craziness, 100% proc chance for 6 seconds)
also, from dev balance blog:
"Control Wizards filled too many roles in groups and were more often than not the “right” choice for a group over other class, and this was very frustrating for people who played other classes. Given this we took a long look at how powerful their AoE was and how their various powers compared to each other. We decided to rebalance most of their powers to be more competitive with each other and much more in line with other classes."
^^ you guys did absolutely NOTHING to change this concept, CWs still very much fill every role, and even better now, they are NOT in line with other classes...and they are ALWAYS the right choice for a group...whoever is in charge of class balancing and final output needs to be reevaluated....i don't mean to offend, but come on, you guys post that misleading dev balance thread then execute the opposite?
do you guys use "metrics" to test stuff out? how about actually playing the game for yourselves and pvping for yourselves?
yes, i'm upset, because i put money into this game, and this just is becoming painful instead of fun
[h=2]i feel SOOOO ridiculous playing my CW in pvp...[/h]
As a non native english speaker, I keep getting puzzled when reading this forum. I understood that, here is this forum, "broken" means over-powered. Is "ridiculous" also meaning over-powered?
Russian leaderboard first page. The proof.
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mugiwaracMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited August 2014
you are not a cw, and this is a classic QQ thread.
learn to play. close please.
King Goponov - GWF
Eleanor - CW (retired after Assailing nerf)
As a non native english speaker, I keep getting puzzled when reading this forum. I understood that, here is this forum, "broken" means over-powered. Is "ridiculous" also meaning over-powered?
as i wrote in another thread - my 16k pvorp rank 7/8 gwf feels about as useful as my 12.7k rank5 no weapon enchant oppressor cw i havent worked on since mod1 that about says it all and its pve built so i dont even have additional chill stacks on ray
as i wrote in another thread - my 16k pvorp rank 7/8 gwf feels about as useful as my 12.7k rank5 no weapon enchant oppressor cw i havent worked on since mod1 that about says it all and its pve built so i dont even have additional chill stacks on ray
pretty much...but, from dev tracker:
"We have a fix for Assailing Force going to preview today as we currently believe it is one of the leading causes of extra Control Wizard damaging effects currently."
If you feel "ridiculous", you should probably ask some good players for premades. There are enough players (of other classes) that can beat me (not occasionally, but in 50% of the fights). And I am BiS with a min-maxed PvP build playing since day 1 of open beta.
Especially GWFs that have min-maxed their build have a very good chance against CWs with certain feats and gear.
If you feel "ridiculous", you should probably ask some good players for premades. There are enough players (of other classes) that can beat me (not occasionally, but in 50% of the fights). And I am BiS with a min-maxed PvP build playing since day 1 of open beta.
Especially GWFs that have min-maxed their build have a very good chance against CWs with certain feats and gear.
I have to requote this.
Are CWs powerful? YES.
So what?!? HRs and GWFs were for MONTHS, and 2 modules before this, and TRs fill their role amazingly still.
SO GET OVER IT.
Stop pugging and go premade. Nobody cares about pugs with bad spec&gear melting. Go melt properly built players and return.
There's definately something wrong with CWs right now, in PvE too. Did a couple of VT with three CWs last night (and no cleric). Valindra was melting so fast that it felt like an exploit. She was barely getting her second air phase off, at about 15% HP, and burning to the ground long before she managed the second large coffer wave. I'd played with those guild CWs in VT a lot of times before- and while they're good, they're not normally THAT good.
It felt like some debuffs/buffs were stacking incorrectly high or something, as everyone was putting out silly dps. I even changed from my GWF to my GF, and if anything it went even faster (I guess with Into The Fray and mark etc.).
I just hope that no-one decides that we were exploiting, as Val was dying insanely quickly.
cw can have 46k hp in pvp easy with just rank 7 enchants and 2 epic artifacts with hp, no need for con belt at all, that combined with
shield gives insane survivability
same cw can cc u to the death in 3 sec
and can kill any class 1v1
has no natural predators
doesnt sound right to me
another rage "mimimi" thread: please nerf this, please nerf that, because I can not score more play, méh, rivers of tears more a baby "whale" whiner, this is communi it very rough. so sad...
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has 48k hp with rank 10.
that is 46 with rank 7 enchants
no con belt
but he proly has vital rings hehe
still 45 should be easy to get with rank 7
has 48k hp with rank 10.
that is 46 with rank 7 enchants
no con belt
but he proly has vital rings hehe
still 45 should be easy to get with rank 7
send to my mail plz
It is not easy, and while HP is important, getting such a huge amount means you are lacking Power, ArP and many other offensive stats in significant quantities.
Also vital rings=impossible to get for rank 7 player, as I said.
Getting both vital rings means you will lose on a huge amount of regen as well, or Power. It is a bad tradeoff as ArP is now functional and our hardest hitting abilities scale a lot with Power.
But who am I to teach you people how to build CWs. I'll play mine which has 5K Power and 42k HP, you play yours with 2500 Power and 48k Hp lol.
cw can have 46k hp in pvp easy with just rank 7 enchants and 2 epic artifacts with hp, no need for con belt at all, that combined with
shield gives insane survivability
same cw can cc u to the death in 3 sec
and can kill any class 1v1
has no natural predators
doesnt sound right to me
Would you please post how to get 46k and still do damage. Heck not do damage and get 46k health.
EASY
I just don't see much past 30k possible but I just made this guy, and am not yet even 30 (which means if there is a path to high hp, I still have time to adjust to it.)
Esp. if it is EASY to get 46k hp
Thanks
OH, the epic artifacts, they have to be refined, or do you get them easy just by doing quests or what.
I'm deadly serious.
Klora the beginning CW who knows little and seeks knowledge.
Pretty sure doing a partial-premade increases your chances significantly of going against a partial or full premade. Whenever I queue up next to Joe and Flo from the **** Guild queing together, I sigh because I know I'll be going against a partial premade of probably good players.
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As a non native english speaker, I keep getting puzzled when reading this forum. I understood that, here is this forum, "broken" means over-powered. Is "ridiculous" also meaning over-powered?
learn to play. close please.
Eleanor - CW (retired after Assailing nerf)
- Brazil PvP Fraternité -
in this case, haha
i'll post some screenshots in a bit
i am a cw
are you?
most people that don't think they're OP don't play anything BUT a cw
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
pretty much...but, from dev tracker:
"We have a fix for Assailing Force going to preview today as we currently believe it is one of the leading causes of extra Control Wizard damaging effects currently."
^^lmao, sad, so clueless
Especially GWFs that have min-maxed their build have a very good chance against CWs with certain feats and gear.
The funny thing is MOF isn't all that bad. They got buffs of their own. MOFs can kill my Spellstorm CW if they get the first CC on me.
If storm spell gets nerfed I think you'll see a lot of CWs go MOF and things might not be all that different than they are now...
I have to requote this.
Are CWs powerful? YES.
So what?!? HRs and GWFs were for MONTHS, and 2 modules before this, and TRs fill their role amazingly still.
SO GET OVER IT.
Stop pugging and go premade. Nobody cares about pugs with bad spec&gear melting. Go melt properly built players and return.
I ran away when I see some storm mages though
BlackberryCheesecake CW
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
CheeseCake House
It felt like some debuffs/buffs were stacking incorrectly high or something, as everyone was putting out silly dps. I even changed from my GWF to my GF, and if anything it went even faster (I guess with Into The Fray and mark etc.).
I just hope that no-one decides that we were exploiting, as Val was dying insanely quickly.
shield gives insane survivability
same cw can cc u to the death in 3 sec
and can kill any class 1v1
has no natural predators
doesnt sound right to me
im combat pve tr in pvp
using dazing deft lb
with 19k hp
i die very fast
why i spec like that?
coz its fun
still i cry here a lot
but its fun
100% BS. x10
wanna bet i put rank 7 enchant
yeah all the time
so many of them were quite constructive regarding perma trs
no idea why so much flame right now
it was never like this before
yeah please do this.
I hope you don't come with 100 pots on, Vital rings that a rank 7 player cannot afford and such.
PvP CWs usually stand at around 40-44K HP these days (with Rank 10s).
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
has 48k hp with rank 10.
that is 46 with rank 7 enchants
no con belt
but he proly has vital rings hehe
still 45 should be easy to get with rank 7
send to my mail plz
Its a flashback to Sentinel vs Destroyer...
It is not easy, and while HP is important, getting such a huge amount means you are lacking Power, ArP and many other offensive stats in significant quantities.
Also vital rings=impossible to get for rank 7 player, as I said.
Getting both vital rings means you will lose on a huge amount of regen as well, or Power. It is a bad tradeoff as ArP is now functional and our hardest hitting abilities scale a lot with Power.
But who am I to teach you people how to build CWs. I'll play mine which has 5K Power and 42k HP, you play yours with 2500 Power and 48k Hp lol.
In what world are you living in?
Fighting premade vs premade does.
Pugging is not important, means nada.
Would you please post how to get 46k and still do damage. Heck not do damage and get 46k health.
EASY
I just don't see much past 30k possible but I just made this guy, and am not yet even 30 (which means if there is a path to high hp, I still have time to adjust to it.)
Esp. if it is EASY to get 46k hp
Thanks
OH, the epic artifacts, they have to be refined, or do you get them easy just by doing quests or what.
I'm deadly serious.
Klora the beginning CW who knows little and seeks knowledge.
XD