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does less damage than a doohickey ahahahahahah
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by my own, I get it to crit around 10-12k or so.
Doohickey does more damage than that? o.O
Cause PvE is So retardedly easy....
this entire game is sinking faster than the titanic
This is a roleplaying game, not a competition, unless you are an avid PvPer, which you might be.
Instead of complaining, try to have some fun. Not all bug fixes are easy to fix.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Yep. The TR is my favorite character, but PvP has made its PvE effectiveness pretty bad now. But you know, the squeaky wheel gets the most grease! So, PvP complaining about being owned repeatedly by TRs made them a non-factor and caused the GWF to have no real competition when it comes to PvP, except maybe some good CWs. . .
I still love the game, just disappointed what PvP did to the TR.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
If he's #1 in dungeons then he's probably pugging it which doesn't say a lot. Sure they can probably solo a lot of stuff if they know what they're doing, but they're still not wanted particularly on the team. Why pick a tr when you can just pick a gwf who does the job much better and aoes. If they could still skip trash, they'd possibly still be considered, but they fixed a lot of that.
Also, smokebomb or dazing strike isn't too useful in there, lots of enemies are inmune to it, so it leaves TRs with less tools to defend ourselves. Or the boss from Biggrin's tomb, that can see right through stealth, it leaves us with ITC as out only defensive move. (no stealth and no dazing strike or somekebomb either)
When pugging in Skirmishes or some dungeons, sometimes I still top executioner, but if there's a GWF or CW that knows what they're doing, I might end up doing half their damage or something like that.
I'm a all ranged whisperknife though, things might be different, I'm better at AOE damage than a MI probably. (and worse at single target damage).
Well it's not like you can't do the content with them, if we're doing a dungeon and a guildie wants in, I'm hardly going to say no unless there isn't really a place for him (ie 1 melee only in a CN group unless the group is top notch) but they do fall short compared to others. So yes they're not completely useless providing they know what they're doing, but they definitely could do with pve love.
I second this; and add, if you thrive off of experiencing difficulty then wear lower end gear...like heloo
Part of the issue is this yes. The other component is that the TR suffered from its own popularity. Like when the HR came out, and like the SW no doubt will go through as well, everyone and their moms wanted to be the dual wielding ninja death monkey. Problem was that the vast majority played at a "sub par" level and thus in the eyes of the meta elitists, they deemed the class less than optimal. This sentiment was adopted and when combined with nerfs based on the ridiculous notion of balancing PvP you end up where we are today.
Good TR's are out there, we're just so far and few between so as to be almost a myth. We resorted to guild groups since the vast majority of the player base sees the TR as a stigma. I've only recently started venturing back out into pug land lately. The myth about not enough damage isn't completely true either as I consistently do 12mill or more in MC runs with three 16k GS CW's from my guild. We do plenty of damage you just need to know how to do it.
I am optimistic about mod 4 as a lot of TR players will gravitate to the SW thus "culling" the herd so to speak. Not everyone makes a good ninja.
Gloom level 60 Control Wizard
Dusk level 60 Trickster Rogue
Dawn level 60 Devoted Cleric
Eclipse level 60 Hunter Ranger
Wrath level 60 Great Weapon Fighter
Jinx level 60 Scourge Warlock
I dunno, if he is #1 in DPS I would question who he is running with. Not doubting you but it is just so easy for other classes to out DPS us, specifically CW and GWF currently.
I honestly hope you are right for mod 4 however if the preview server is any indication its is going to be a rough start for TRs. And for PVP it is going to be even more pronounced.
you are so wrong on every lvl.
this is 80% pve game which all polls confirmed.
and best class for pve is and always was cw.
so cw is and will be the most popular class in game(not talking pvp but the whole game)
so saying everyone wanted to play tr has no logic.
clear case is gwf once they got pve buff so many people rolled one(sure some roll for pvp,but 20 people who bought some gear dont make the game)
now playing with overgeared tr in a guild is no were near good enough to be viable as a class in pve game.
in pve game tr has nothing to offer its utter dissapointment.
its like the song cw and gwf sing
anything you can do,I can do better. / Ha! / I can do anything, Better than you
biggest and only problem trs have is that on every thread some tr shows up saying tr is still good in pve.
so if anyone ever read this forums they would think ah its still fine trs are satisfied as it is
same time cws are realy upset abouth the nerf and will go crazy if they dont have at least 3 in the same group
but trs can be happy if there is one in 30 groups
i fail to see any logic what so ever in your post
but u achived your only goal u posted you are good pve tr
BRAVO BRAVO
nw-forum.perfect world.com/show thread.php?101171-Most-Played-Class
I won't bother with much more response than suffice to say almost every poll taken has similar results until the HR came out and overtook the TR's top spot. A little investigative search of these forums would do you some good. CW popularity isn't even close.
Honestly don't know you or what your problem is but I'm sorry if you are in fact one of the shunned due to being sub par.
Gloom level 60 Control Wizard
Dusk level 60 Trickster Rogue
Dawn level 60 Devoted Cleric
Eclipse level 60 Hunter Ranger
Wrath level 60 Great Weapon Fighter
Jinx level 60 Scourge Warlock
are we still talking about it?
we have the worst single target damage between warlock and gwf and soon GF (mod 4).
we are the class with 0 aoe damage.
we are the most squishy.
we are the class with the lowest AP gain.
we are the class with the lowest HP.
we are the most nerfed class.
every other class is gonna be buffed to hell in mod 4.
Bilethorn is gonna be nerfed.
We are the only class without free armor pen throught stats.
We are the class with the ****tiest feats and the most bugged ones.
We are the class with secondary stat (CHA) that is SUPPOSED to give us combat advantage damage but it doesnt.
Stealth is actually a joke, target lock plays an important role here.
WE NEED REWORK. A TOTAL ONE.
you are showing me the poll one and a half year ago
before the game even started
loooooooool
no one even knew nothing abouth the game
one month in the game this changed radicaly
and since tr nerfs no one wants to play the class
i still cant belive u posted a year and 6 months old poll like it was yesterday
that poll is before the game even started
sure everyone wanted to play ninja trickster but as soon as the game was released cw was looking better by the day with that sing repel down the cliff thing.which is way cooler then any tr trick
and after the tr nerf the class became dead.
I just hope you, and others here, are still around playing the TR two weeks later. That is the kind of hard-as-nails truth that has to be slammed to the devs if they are ever going to listen. Not these other PvP wannabe's who complain the moment they see... scratch that DON'T SEE a TR. I'm not even perma, but I've been on the receiving end of the same cries and insults just because I happen to have Stealth on Tab...
It's not like I can unslot it or anything.
Agree 100% with the rest of your post though.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
*Sigh* if you actually bothered to read the posts and follow along you would come to the plainly evident conclusion that we were discussing what actually led to the current state of the TR. If you also choose to comprehend my post instead of ways to justify trying to discredit it due to some less than constructive motive, you would also see that I clearly stated almost every other poll taken showed similar results until the arrival of the HR when they overtook the TR. I Also invited you to investigate the numerous polls from different dates on these very forums which all draw a similar conclusion. This is data, not anecdote and it requires comprehensive reading skills a little more refined beyond looooooooool..
Gloom level 60 Control Wizard
Dusk level 60 Trickster Rogue
Dawn level 60 Devoted Cleric
Eclipse level 60 Hunter Ranger
Wrath level 60 Great Weapon Fighter
Jinx level 60 Scourge Warlock
plz learn to use google we live in 21 century
there is no other poll
if there were any you would not post 1 1/2 year old one
if u post me only 2 different polls i will pay u rank 7 enchant
should be easy its all on google
i go with logic and truth u go with insult
nice
hehehe
I agree with all but the feat thing, DC has the worst feats hands down lol
Preach it
And TR is the only class able to solo dungeons, and hard ones like CN...
cant enter any dungeon solo but u know that