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Using more then 6 abilities in one fight. I seen it happen and I can do it too. PVP
vladious1977
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Just finished up a low level PVP match. Level 40s . I know how to read my damage log and pay attention and this is a completely new thing I saw. This TR I played against used dazing - shadow strike - dummy - Lashing - Impact in the space of one duel. He was good too. He could hit like a truck. I was impressed with his skill no lie.
So I was like how the hell did he do that. So I tried out some thing and while in combat as long as my skill I wanted to switch was not on cooldown I could switch it out. Right in the middle of combat. Allowing me to use 6 abilities in one fight. The only cost is a mild 10 second cool down. Which if you are in stealth is not even that big of a deal.
I really think this is a bug and not intended. At least a lot of games I play they do not allow you to switch up your skills in combat on your action bar.
So I was like how the hell did he do that. So I tried out some thing and while in combat as long as my skill I wanted to switch was not on cooldown I could switch it out. Right in the middle of combat. Allowing me to use 6 abilities in one fight. The only cost is a mild 10 second cool down. Which if you are in stealth is not even that big of a deal.
I really think this is a bug and not intended. At least a lot of games I play they do not allow you to switch up your skills in combat on your action bar.
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It is a risk blocking out the whole screen with that page. It is not always worth it.
If you're in the middle of a dungeon with a Pick Up Group whom just insists on dashing through rather than take two minutes of prep before a boss though it's very useful.
Again - this tactic you risk death with so the ability to use it I wouldn't say is a bug. It's speedy button mashing.
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Good to know. With Speedy button smashing and Stealth could work out pretty nice changing load out to kill a Tanky priest or GWF.
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I do know you can create a macro script that can be used to for something such as this. (as far as i know this is legal to utilize, but still use and or test at your own risk)
I have also noticed on my HR that sometimes i can "preselect" my next attack while the current power is in progress..
Ex: Aimed shot building charge for attack, and at the same time i can preselect my Rain of arrows to immediately use after Aimed shot has fired.. again sometimes.. (does not always work, might be more possible with macro commands.. still have yet to the hang of it)
I have seen this also done with other classes, will not say so there is no chance for accusations, I just know it is possible.
Now on the HR side.. we do have the ability to hit the tab to use our second set of encounter powers that can refill the action hexagon fairly quickly in the same manner. On my HR i can usually use 2 Daily powers, and 6 total encounter powers in approximately 5-6 seconds if timed right, then be ready to reuse all of them again within 10 -12 seconds. (again if using the right combination of special feats, and Daily powers to reduce the CD of the encounter powers) This can usually give me a burst damage approximately 20-25K worth of damage under 6 seconds if all attacks land.
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So I don't exactly see what the problem is here.
[Edit/ps] First I thought OP was saying within one stealth duration, since TRs usually use the stealth as a cover to buy time to change stuff, but now that I read it again there's no time limit -- in which case its not that difficult.
DS - SS - BnS - LB- Impact
Apparently, the TR landed DS from stealth, and then probably landed a few at-wills and then entered 2nd stealth with SS. DS is around 8~10 sec recharge for most people so by the time he used SS probably like 6~7 seconds left.
So, at that point:
■ DS = 6~7s / SS = 13~14s / BnS = ready / stealth = 10s left
Extended stealth lasts for around 10 secs, so by the time DS recharges:
■ DS = recharged / SS = 3~4s / BnS = ready / stealth = 3~4s left
He opens powers window and switches DS to LB in 2 secs if he's real fast hand:
■ LB = 10s / SS = 1~2s / BnS = ready / stealth 1~2s left
Immediately fires off BnS
■ LB = 9s / SS = 0~1s / BnS = 24~25s / stealth 10s left
Starts switching SS to IS
■ LB = 6s / SS = recharged / BnS = 22~23s / stealth 8s left
Finished switching
■ LB = 3s / IS = 10s / BnS = 19~20s / stealth 5s left
Starts making it towards you
■ LB = 1s / IS = 10s / BnS = 19~20s / stealth 3s left
LB from stealth - crits
■ LB = ready / IS = 8s / BnS = 17~18s / stealth 1s left
...and then starts firing off IS after 6~7 seconds later. Not impossible, if the TR has practiced specifically this rotation a lot.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
i don't think stealth lasts 10 seconds in lvl 40s.
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You also might try using the "T" key (or whatever key you have bound to the run command) to stay mobile while you're swapping out powers. It beats standing still while you're trying to swap out powers if people are trying to kill you.