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My first impressions on the "emergent" open world "PvP"
proneification
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 494 Bounty Hunter
It's dumb. Just as dumb as we all thought it will be. Noobs and pugs barely being able to kill a single PvP player in bands of 10+ people, always sticking together like the pugs they are, always dying in 2 rotations as soon as you isolate them.
A great mode for trolling and creating frustration, very good tool in the hands of the sweet community Neverwinter has.
Now that I've spoken my mind, I'm off to play my perma.
A great mode for trolling and creating frustration, very good tool in the hands of the sweet community Neverwinter has.
Now that I've spoken my mind, I'm off to play my perma.
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Random fights, companions, and random NPCs joining in make it all the more fun.
And if there's a zerg on one side that's particularly dominating, just change instances. No problem.
After being stuck playing PVP in only 2 instances with the great combat system this game has, I think this mod is a Godsend.
My only wish is that they continue to expand on the PVP in this game.
How are PvP spec'd classes that are not "top tier" holding up? Example, I'm not fully decked out(gwf) but where I'm really behind is companions...haven't finished my selection nor are any of them upgraded.
Narayan
I only have PvP centric companions on my TR. I think this class really shines in the new zone because it can troll people way better, and if you pay a bit of attention, you will never die. I did enter the zone with my GWF but other than a cheap stone she doesn't have anything for open world PvP. I killed a few, got zerged a few times without any chances to escape by toons that lose 3/4 HP from an IBS crit... but when they're a pack of 7-8, you'll die anyway.
Strangely enough, the PvP zones are quite dead. Changed a few instances to find people. In one instance I was alone against 7-8. I think most people run HEs.
If you don't think random fights happening is fun, then you don't like open-world PVP.
I would like more strategic open world pvp implemented later like RvR but I'm not counting on it.
It's quite dead because most people didn't do Sharander or Dread Campaign and since nobody knew that was going to be a requirement everyone is jumping at the chance to do them now.
I think that's baloney.
Most people are afraid of open world PvP, I think only a small subset of people are interested in it and right now since it's day one, the lure of all that black ice down in the PvP area isn't tugging at people yet - maybe that will change.
I spent about an hour down there mining black ice this morning. Got 4 kills and basically "solod" the domination type game for my side against 2 other players from the ten towns faction. Then I plopped down and mined a few thousand black ice from the "motherload" that spawned in our base camp.
I don't know if this is a lot of black ice or not, but I got about 10k doing that this morning. Didn't take long at all - so maybe this will attract people to the area?
And the lack of unique reward pretty much means no one would willing to do any organize group battle in general.
I can assume some PVP top guild would try pull that off but for the majority all you gonna get in open zone is get ganked by the wolf pack...
'Preciate the info.
This, this, and more this.
Jugger Conq GF
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A lot of it isn't the most fair situation, but don't act like this is exclusive to the module 3 PVP when it happens in regular PVP and has been happening for months now.
Your right and the arms race of mod 3 will be epic. Comps, black ice gear, more comps, pots out the butt. The cool thing is the social dynamic. I think that will be key. You have wolf packs but you also have well organized guild premades to balance them out. I am loving this part of mod3 and really hope the crowds in dr and shar get their boons quick to fill out the instances.
Jugger Conq GF
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The best idea! If i have a big mouth only pvp-er, i just invite him to join me in a dungeon, you guys surly guessed it, none of them took my invitation. I like some pvp too, but d&d is about dungeons as the name says, not pvp.
Robert E. Lee
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Winston Churchill
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David Icke
You're half right, its a bad game experience and when I want to pvp I play real pvp games, mostly counterstrike. There is however a small subset of people interested in it and my suspicion is they are the people who can't deal in competitive games
And best yet, you now take damage from PVP deaths.
Gannicus Destroyer, GWF Destroyer retired
Kate Beckinsale NB DC, Link NB GF
"There is only one way to be a champion..., Never ...ing lose"
Agreed. Faction changing is a joke. If a faction fills up before some of your other guildmates come online, you are forced to go against them.
This is pretty discourages any long-term guild vs guild or team vs team activity. There is no continuity.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
Technically it can be the entire map; flag yourself and now you can be killed anywhere in the map. As to why its a bad idea to force the map to be 100% open world PvP:
Gannicus Destroyer, GWF Destroyer retired
Kate Beckinsale NB DC, Link NB GF
"There is only one way to be a champion..., Never ...ing lose"
Lucky us with GWFs that we already have the best artifact though
People constantly have to buy elixirs and potions to gain stat advantages in regular PVP.
Can't change instances to go to where there are more people in an easy way....
WE switched to Arcane so we would have more people to fight....but then it seems many others switched too...so often times there are maybe 2 people of the opposite faction somewhere on the pvp map...but 20 of your faction.
You can organize with your guild to meet with another guild or big group of people, it takes some time, but it is fun, however open world pvp should be more interactive than this...I get bored everytime we go in and try to get our pvp campaign stuff done.
Are you mad? The whole map open to PVP with PVE content tied into it? Enjoy the herd of GWFs and TRs waiting at the gates to batter anything that walks through there. Also, have fun when you get ganked while trying to do your PVE dailies.
A full PVP map should be something separate and have no PVE content so as not to subject non-PVPers and poorly geared people to thrashings.