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  • cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Lol how many of us Veterns of EQ are there here. More and more comments about the old days when we had to retrieve our corpse nakid keep coming out of the wood works while we wait for the server to come up or end up going to bed, whichever comes first.

    HAHA about the deadman in the nexus.
  • suddenlyslowsuddenlyslow Member Posts: 818 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    dv8maker12 wrote: »
    I miss casting deadmans on everyone in the nexus just to get the whole zone floating...or the vast amount of people I met needing a translocation while on my wiz...EQ1 was an experience like no other.

    I was thinking about the differences in my complaints on this game and EQ1. This game "I got <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> loot in the chest". EQ1 "I spent 14 hours on a CR and lost two levels"...
  • wanderson88wanderson88 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    here I still can not log since the morning without playing, someone could help me?
  • alvadimarcoalvadimarco Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Nobody can log in, so nobody can help. You'll just have to wait.
  • cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    ROFLMAO Those were the days is all I can say.
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    But if they didn't control the content, it would devolve very quickly into a troll haven. While it's been years since i visited some other forums *coughWoWcough* i remember how entire threads had to be constantly removed because of trolling. They didn't bother to keep AHEAD of the problem, so it often quickly escalated out of control. i also used to be head admin a fairly large forum (NOT gaming related) and it can be very hard to know how strict you need to be to keep things safe and friendly while still allowing free speech. i'd rather the mods err on the side of caution most days just because i know how quickly things can spiral out of control when they don't.

    Well it's good that its more of a positive place than some other places. But I don't see the point when i can't contribute my own points because posts get removed or a thread gets closed before I can even contribute. They lock just because of trends that threads can end with flaming and so take action before any of that happens. That punishes those that do want a fair discussion. A forum should be a reasonably open place to discuss things but here I feel like I don't want to because some of the time I can't. I used to be a moderator on another gaming forum since I was asked, the moderators on the whole were more lax on the rules which did result in some flaming (though they did kind of deserve it since they were pretty awful), but at least you could be open. For some reason just because I defended the company on some points, one person thought I was a fanboy when I was far from it. Not sure why people chose those positions though, it takes time to maintain the boards and some people just don't appreciate it.
    Compensated for downtime? It's a FREE to play game, just because you buy Zen doesnt entitle you to ANYTHING!!!
    Free to reach out to more consumers to get more money, not because they're generous. They do not get a fre card because it's possible to play for free. But yes, it's silly and kind of selish to request for compensation. It's like going, "oh I wanted a new tv at this store yesterday but you guys were on fire, can i have it for 50% off?". People get compensated because they miss out on something, usually money wise. No-one apart from cryptic are losing out on anything.
  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Hate CR's could take a long long time. Ah I so loved the brutality that game could dish out on you. That is something I miss in all of the new games, there isn't that penalty for being foolish or the real requirement for skill and cooperation.

    you are stuck in nostalgia heaven. EQ1 punished you not only for your stupidity but for anyones. If one person did something stupid it would wipe the entire raid. If you had fun doing multi-hour Cr's because 1 guy you had no control over pulled a set of mobs accidentially, then I would suspect your significant other has a closet full of whips, chains and other toture implements they lovingly have named after you.
  • hustin1hustin1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,467 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    cayapp wrote: »
    I agree so much you could never know. That was a game that took real skill and cooperation. I don't think anyone could imagine raids having and needing 100 people in them today. And all those people had to communicate and cooperate just via the keyboard. No such thing as teamspeak or ventrilo etc.

    If you didn't know how to type, you learned fast! Now people just talk about the poor graphics of EQ1, but when you have 60-100 players, at least as many mobs, and spells flying everywhere, you couldn't have uber-level graphics without bringing everyone's PC down to its knees. Now that game had serious fights, and everyone had to work together. Aggro the wrong mob at the wrong time, and suddenly you begin seeing, "CLERICS CAMP!"
    Harper Chronicles: Cap Snatchers (RELEASED) - NW-DPUTABC6X
    Blood Magic (RELEASED) - NW-DUU2P7HCO
    Children of the Fey (RELEASED) - NW-DKSSAPFPF
    Buried Under Blacklake (WIP) - NW-DEDV2PAEP
    The Redcap Rebels (WIP) - NW-DO23AFHFH
    My Foundry playthrough channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Ruskaga/featured
  • cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Back then there was also a sense of family and friendship with the people you met in game.
  • sfdhsgjhkmsgsfdhsgjhkmsg Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    crrush83 wrote: »
    Amen. UO was where it's at. Still looking for a game to replicate that feeling that anything could happen at any time.

    Meh, i liked Dark Age of Camelot. Felt like a huge sandbox to play in minus the catshiznit.
  • crrush83crrush83 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    If you played UO after Renaissance then you missed the glory days. Original UO and UO:T2A were amazing.
  • suddenlyslowsuddenlyslow Member Posts: 818 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    skalt112 wrote: »
    you are stuck in nostalgia heaven. EQ1 punished you not only for your stupidity but for anyones. If one person did something stupid it would wipe the entire raid. If you had fun doing multi-hour Cr's because 1 guy you had no control over pulled a set of mobs accidentially, then I would suspect your significant other has a closet full of whips, chains and other toture implements they lovingly have named after you.

    I am sure I wasn't so fond of it at the time. It is only in looking back at it, but such does cause me to smile at the memory of it.
  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Meh, i liked Dark Age of Camelot. Felt like a huge sandbox to play in minus the catshiznit.

    DAOC was, and still is my favorite all time game. Too bad they screwed up with the second iteration. Those awsome castle sieges.
  • jelara1jelara1 Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    But one thing about today's modern MMOs, they borrow bits and pieces from one another, but one thing they all seem to have common - how very much they are not like EQ1. Even though that game is still around, and i played it as recently as 2 years ago, its like it became the model for everything people didn't want in their game.

    Oh, and to keep this Neverwinter oriented - someone commented about using Sword Coast Adventures - that actually went down this morning an hour or two before the other problems started happening.
  • cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    skalt112 wrote: »
    you are stuck in nostalgia heaven. EQ1 punished you not only for your stupidity but for anyones. If one person did something stupid it would wipe the entire raid. If you had fun doing multi-hour Cr's because 1 guy you had no control over pulled a set of mobs accidentially, then I would suspect your significant other has a closet full of whips, chains and other toture implements they lovingly have named after you.


    LOL... That is true but I would rarely actually do pick up raids, those were mainly with my raiding guild or people I knew and trusted for the smaller ones.
  • hustin1hustin1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,467 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    My biggest gripe about EQ1 was that you *had* to do multi-hour raids at the higher levels for your gear, and you couldn't do anything in a short period of time. It was very solo-unfriendly and casual-gamer-unfriendly.
    Harper Chronicles: Cap Snatchers (RELEASED) - NW-DPUTABC6X
    Blood Magic (RELEASED) - NW-DUU2P7HCO
    Children of the Fey (RELEASED) - NW-DKSSAPFPF
    Buried Under Blacklake (WIP) - NW-DEDV2PAEP
    The Redcap Rebels (WIP) - NW-DO23AFHFH
    My Foundry playthrough channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Ruskaga/featured
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    Hey guys, we've been pretty lax about the discussion of other MMOs but let's calm down about it.

    They are competing games in the end and discussing them, even old ones, in detail is like walking into CVS and handing out fliers for Walgreens. :)
  • crrush83crrush83 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    We're talking about ancient MMOs here. Are they really competing titles? LOL. There's a reason we're all here. It's not because we want to play those archaic MMOs still.
  • draconiseabladedraconiseablade Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Well right now they're tied for server uptime
  • coldwroughtcoldwrought Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Hey guys, we've been pretty lax about the discussion of other MMOs but let's calm down about it.

    They are competing games in the end and discussing them, even old ones, in detail is like walking into CVS and handing out fliers for Walgreens. :)

    Ok then im a **** here, and think i completely muffed up my guardian fighter's spec. best i reroll (lvl 24) ? or keep going and buy a respec token later?
  • draconiseabladedraconiseablade Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Well if you make more than 300 zen in the time you spent leveling id say respec, but I'd tough it out if it isn't completely unplayable

    e: at least until 30 or so
  • urgakurgak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    at lvl 24 id reroll if you know for sure what ya want to do next go round, otherwise push forward and respec
  • hustin1hustin1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,467 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    To turn it back to Neverwinter, I wonder if it would be possible to allow scaled-up DD raids with multiple groups, where the toughness scales up with the number of players, in exchange for perhaps better drop rates (or something else that might be appropriate)? Basically, some way to reward players for working together on a larger scale without requiring that sort of play from everyone to proceed.
    Harper Chronicles: Cap Snatchers (RELEASED) - NW-DPUTABC6X
    Blood Magic (RELEASED) - NW-DUU2P7HCO
    Children of the Fey (RELEASED) - NW-DKSSAPFPF
    Buried Under Blacklake (WIP) - NW-DEDV2PAEP
    The Redcap Rebels (WIP) - NW-DO23AFHFH
    My Foundry playthrough channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Ruskaga/featured
  • dolour79dolour79 Member Posts: 56
    edited March 2014
    not long till 3am, thats like what? 8h now?
    you need to set up a whole new cluster or anything that could possibly explain a downtime THAT long?
    (my isp recently installed new wires, wich led 2h of offline time. now WHAT could possibly break that takes a friggin HALF day to fix, if there was like A-N-Y plan for a hardware failure?)

    /edit:
    We're talking about ancient MMOs here. Are they really competing titles? LOL. There's a reason we're all here. It's not because we want to play those archaic MMOs still.
    actually its been a rl friend and the frenchise that draged me here.
    now imagine the dissapointment of someone whos been playing p&p for decades, pretty much every d&d game ever released from back in the days of EOTB until d&d online, when he first saw the skillset, "feats", inability to multiclass(the list is WAY longer than the pros this game actually has to offer)...
    truth be told, if it werent for rl-pals, id have long parted with this bug-infested mainstream grinder that pretends(and maybe even successfully raises the impression this would have anything, aside the lore, in common with dungeons and dragons) to have some sort of depht by wearing a d&d hat.
  • mistressphoenixmistressphoenix Member Posts: 369 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Ok then im a **** here, and think i completely muffed up my guardian fighter's spec. best i reroll (lvl 24) ? or keep going and buy a respec token later?

    At 24, i'd probably just reroll. Make sure you move everything off to the replacement, though. Don't forget your profession assets, AD, etc.!
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Compensated for downtime? It's a FREE to play game, just because you buy Zen doesnt entitle you to ANYTHING!!!

    Still, the way they treat their consumers is exactly the reason why they convinced me to never buy any of their stuff like Knights of Feywild.
  • devilsinmedevilsinme Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    crrush83 wrote: »
    Amen. UO was where it's at. Still looking for a game to replicate that feeling that anything could happen at any time.

    There is a UO style game being made by Lord British, Its called Shroud of the Avatar, Its kickstarter funded, and It'll be a spiritual successor to UO :)
  • alvadimarcoalvadimarco Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Every last one of you will survive. You lived your lives just fine before finding out Neverwinter even existed and you will continue to live your lives just fine while it's down.

    Fixes take time and laying new wires is much more of a straightforward affair than troubleshooting networking equipment. Especially if "networking equipment" is actually code for DDoS.
  • gulxgilamarthgulxgilamarth Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Wait... there's a problem with loggin in??
  • nightstalkornightstalkor Member Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    So is there a time frame on when the server is going to come back up? I've gone thru 5 or 6 pages w/o finding any hint. This is why I hate boards like this... Slogging thru all the commentary to find what I really want.

    Anyway, the server has been down since about 10 AM PST for me. WHEN is it coming back up?
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