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Is it possible for a lvl 60 rogue to get the bag from the graveyard?

ladymythosladymythos Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 637 Bounty Hunter
edited January 2014 in The Moonstone Mask (PC)
This might sound weird, but I reached lvl 60 this morning, and I could really use an extra bag. I know we get three free ones: One when we start, one in Blacklake and one in the Graveyard (after the Clocktower). The problem is, I only have the first two bags, plus a Greater bag of holding I bought on the Zen-marked.

The thing is, I had a long rogue-break, so when I started up again, she was already past the graveyard. So to put it short, I am honestly not sure if I did the Clocktower with her or not. I only know I should get a bag there, as my GF recently did it. So... is it still possible for me to get the bag, and if so, how?
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  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I seriously doubt it. Isn't that an instanced-quest reward? I don't recall directly, but if it is then you'll have to obtain the quest from the quest-giver. This alone will make it a certain impossibility because, contrary to popular belief, once you out-level a zone it will be, and very sharply: "NO QUESTS FOR YOU!". (Just talking to NPCs as some would tell you to do does nothing. Even in Neverdeath.)

    If it's just laying around that you can interact with, then give it a go. But I think it was part of a given quest.
  • reiwulfreiwulf Member Posts: 2,687 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    As far as I know, you can do the quests at any level and still get the bag, it shouldn't be a problem.
    EDIT: I had no idea that you could outlevel quests, it hasn't happened for me :S
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  • caloriencalorien Member Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    You can go do the quests and get the bag, but you'll have to manually check all the NPCs for quests if you're much over the area's level. (You don't outlevel quests, but you do outlevel the visible indication that there are quests to do in the area.)
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  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    @reiwulf and @calorian: so my account must be bugged. When my TR outlived by 8 levels (only EIGHT(!)) I was not able to take any but two introductory quests. Talking to NPC (whether they had quest label or not) made no difference. Perhaps outlevelling is not an issue for you in many zones, but I ask you to check both Neverdeath and Icespire Peak - in both cases I leveled 10 ranks higher: zero quests to be had (Icespire was absolutely ZERO).

    Either those two zones do not allow out-levelling, or you're misremembering, or two characters on my account are bugged. Either way, it's moot.

    All I'm saying to OP: Sure, give it a go, but don't hold your breath.
  • caloriencalorien Member Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    A lot of the quests require prerequisite quests be completed, go do them then check the NPCs again. In Neverdeath, after you finish the Doomguides' quests, there are quests from the harper, researcher and guard captain (all by the campfire) to do; in Icespire, there are quests from the blacksmith in the first camp that must be done to progress.

    And yes, I have gotten the bag from Neverdeath on a character that had greatly outleveled the area. It helps immensely if you've done the area quests at level on at least one character, though, so you know the people to check out.
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  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    calorien wrote: »
    A lot of the quests require prerequisite quests be completed, go do them then check the NPCs again.

    Done it: Result: Um, no.

    Seriously, there's no debating it, either you're mistaken or my account is bugged - it's as simple as that (i suspect the former). I am not an MMO amateur and I've been playing Neverwinter since February 8th, 2013. Either way it's all a moot point in this thread.

    - to the OP: you'll never know until you try. Go for it.
  • metaplexusmetaplexus Member Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I did the graveyard bag quest on my TR when she was 60 (I pvp'd almost all the way and skipped actually everything pre 45 or so). No problems at all. Same with my GWF, did it at level 40+.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    reiwulf wrote: »
    As far as I know, you can do the quests at any level and still get the bag, it shouldn't be a problem.
    EDIT: I had no idea that you could outlevel quests, it hasn't happened for me :S

    You outlevel the helpful markers pointing out who has things to be done. I've almost always been overlevelled for this zone (sometimes with characters in their 50s) and had absolutely no trouble picking up the bag because I know who to talk to and in what order.

    Not sure what the problem is for angrysprite.
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  • reiwulfreiwulf Member Posts: 2,687 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Oh, I don't know what questline I have to make to get the bag so I usually make the complete graveyard, same for blacklake, the rest I don't care so much.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    The only skippable stuff in Neverdeath is Chettlebell's first quest (defacing gravestones) and Zemmer's entire line. Since both of these send you into areas where you'd be going anyway, I just do them.
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  • ladymythosladymythos Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 637 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    Hm... I guess I'm screwed. The problem is that I had already left the graveyard with my TR when I started playing her, and I didn't have the bag. So I went back (in the late 20s) and checked around the whole graveyard area, but there were no more quests. Even now at lvl 60, there are no more quests there. So I have either done the quest a long time ago and didn't get the bag, or I didn't get the quest at all for some reason, despite doing all the other quests there. Guess I might as well buy a new bag instead. No worries. :)
  • seraphidseraphid Member Posts: 158 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    Head up, im 100% sure u can get ur bag grom graveyard, because i took mine at lv 60 TR and lvld him by invoking/leadership(about 40 lvls).
    All u have to do is to go to sgt knox, he has the starting quests for all zones, i dont know exact name of graveyrd quest, but one of sgt knox quests is from graveyard.
  • destinyknightdestinyknight Member Posts: 962 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Yes you can get the bag. If you have not done the appropriate quest. You can very much get the bag.

    What is said about you out leveling a zone and not getting quests is FALSE. You can go back and do the quests. the quest icons simply wont show but the npc's do still offer the quest.

    I have done this twice with a level 40+ character ( one being 60 ).

    You dont have to go to knox at all. What you need to do is go straight to neverdeath and do the quest for the doom guides, then do the quest from the lady next to the supply vendor, and the quest from the guy to change gravestones. Then the doomguides again, and then you will return to the man you took the quests to change the tombstones once again.

    Any quests that have anything to do with anything in the clockwork area or the area where the mercenaries and cult of the dragon kabolds are is what you need. Keep doing those and you'll eventually get to the quest in clockwork tomb. At the end of turning in that quest, talking to the npc will reward you the bag.
  • ladymythosladymythos Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 637 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    I appreciate the community being helpful, but is it too much to ask that you read the posts first? I know how to get to the graveyard. I know where sgt Knox is. I know where the doomguides are. That's not the issue here. The issue is I've done all the quests in the graveyard, but I didn't get the Clocktower instance, and thus not the free bag. I got it with the DC, but not with the TR. Now that I'm lvl 60, I even went back to the graveyard just to check before I made this thread, but there are no more quests there.
  • kirkcaldykirkcaldy Member Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ladymythos wrote: »
    I appreciate the community being helpful, but is it too much to ask that you read the posts first? I know how to get to the graveyard. I know where sgt Knox is. I know where the doomguides are. That's not the issue here. The issue is I've done all the quests in the graveyard, but I didn't get the Clocktower instance, and thus not the free bag. I got it with the DC, but not with the TR. Now that I'm lvl 60, I even went back to the graveyard just to check before I made this thread, but there are no more quests there.

    I feel your pain, as I have a lvl 60 CW,
    that didn't get that bag also.
    I have tried everything and still cant get it.

    Have already tried countless times, checking and rechecking,
    all NPC's who give quests and still nothing.
    Have tried Knox and every other suggestion posted here or in other threads.

    Nothing works, cant get the bag,
    so have given up on it and just make do,
    with the two bags I have. :confused:

    .
  • w00trandomsnoobiw00trandomsnoobi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 387 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I'm level 38 and I also hadn't got the bag yet but after reading this thread I went back to the graveyard yesterday. I had missed the Red Rituals quest from doomguide Orran and after that got all the others and finally the bag.
  • ladymythosladymythos Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 637 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    I *finally* found the last quest. Turns out the guy didn't have an icon over him, so I had to try to talk to every single one of them until I coincidentally found one who offered a quest. So I went into the clocktower, got near the end, and... crash to desktop. Yay... this has happened for months on the DC, so I don't see a solution any time soon. Strangely, my CW did it on my first try. Weird. So close, yet so far away. Sigh...
  • destinyknightdestinyknight Member Posts: 962 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ladymythos wrote: »
    I *finally* found the last quest. Turns out the guy didn't have an icon over him, so I had to try to talk to every single one of them until I coincidentally found one who offered a quest. So I went into the clocktower, got near the end, and... crash to desktop. Yay... this has happened for months on the DC, so I don't see a solution any time soon. Strangely, my CW did it on my first try. Weird. So close, yet so far away. Sigh...

    Just as I said. I did say that any quests npcs have would not have the question mark icons above thier heads when you over level them. though I've heard that some people have been having that problem lately too. I would suggest try going into your graphics settings and changing from directx11 to directx9 if you can.

    Wierd things tend to happen in these specific quest. I remember a random invisible wall appeared for a while in one of the instanced pre quests, preventing you from completing it to receive the following quests to get to clockwork tomb.
  • ladymythosladymythos Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 637 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    The problem is I've done all the quests in the graveyard with three characters now, and the TR is the only one who had the problem. Even worse, it was only that one NPC, and I'm 100% sure I've clicked him a couple of times with no luck. Why it worked now is beyond me. Besides, said TR is well into lvl 60. If it was the DX causing it, don't you think it should have happened more than one time?
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Like I've said many times before, you need to bounce back and forth between the two Doomguides until they have absolutely nothing left for you to do. Then you bounce back and forth between Harper Windle and Chettlebell until Chettlebell sends you into the Clock tomb. Zemmer's quests aren't part of the chain.

    If you're overlevelled, the only time you'll have quest markers are for turn-ins, including "go talk to...."

    The crashing is highly unlikely to be related, though it is sucky.
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  • melodywhrmelodywhr Member Posts: 4,220 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ladymythos wrote: »
    I appreciate the community being helpful, but is it too much to ask that you read the posts first? I know how to get to the graveyard. I know where sgt Knox is. I know where the doomguides are. That's not the issue here. The issue is I've done all the quests in the graveyard, but I didn't get the Clocktower instance, and thus not the free bag. I got it with the DC, but not with the TR. Now that I'm lvl 60, I even went back to the graveyard just to check before I made this thread, but there are no more quests there.

    i recently did this with my level 40+ MoF CW. in neverdeath, there were no quest indicators showing on the map or on the NPCs, however by talking to the last quest giver and the woman NPC next to him, they had the final unfinished quests listed as options.

    go to neverdeath and talk to all the NPCs to make sure you didn't miss anything. even if they do not have the usual quest indicator balloons over them. and you shall have your extra inventory bag! :D
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited January 2014
    . . .I did the whole Neverdeath Graveyard quest chains on my level 60 cleric after he hit level 60. As Mel said, you just need to go speak to teh specific quest giving NPCs until you get to the quests flip flopped between Harper Windle, Captain Zemmer, and Tristopher Chettlebell. You have to a total of 10 Neverdeath quests in order to progress the quest-line and get the bag. You can see a list of the quests here - there are several that you don't need to do, which the ones you need to do are marked with a [3]. What you need to work towards is the 2nd to the last quest listed there, "Clockwork Guild Tomb." It is this quest that rewards the bag.
  • ladymythosladymythos Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 637 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    I can sort of understand the lack of quest marker, but why do I have to talk to the same NPC several times before he finally gives me the quest? That's the real issue here.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited January 2014
    ladymythos wrote: »
    I can sort of understand the lack of quest marker, but why do I have to talk to the same NPC several times before he finally gives me the quest? That's the real issue here.
    . . .You need to do the quest chain to get to the last quest in the quest chain. Three of the NPCs near the campfire are the ones that give most of the quests in the chain, with Widle and Tristopher being the two that give the last of the quests in the chain. It's the same for the Blacklake bag, except that it's not the last quest in the chain there.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Because NPC 1 offers quests A and C, but quest C isn't available until after you have done quest B for NPC 2. Thus the need to bounce back and forth between them.
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  • coastixcoastix Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I think you outleveled it
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