xokamikazeoxMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited November 2013
About the Sentinel paragon path. It is supposed to be a tank build but there is no where near enough aggro generation to be a viable tank spec. The aggro gen abilities just do not create enough aggro. It's not the fact of survival, that's fine. I just need to be able to hold aggro... Maybe making Weapon masters strike generate a decent amount of aggro to hold mobs off the party, just something so the sentinel path isn't useless besides being able to take hits and that's it.
About the Sentinel paragon path. It is supposed to be a tank build but there is no where near enough aggro generation to be a viable tank spec. The aggro gen abilities just do not create enough aggro. It's not the fact of survival, that's fine. I just need to be able to hold aggro... Maybe making Weapon masters strike generate a decent amount of aggro to hold mobs off the party, just something so the sentinel path isn't useless besides being able to take hits and that's it.
Have you tested Sentinel with the new Paragon Path Iron Vanguard on the test server?
cannot, for the life of me understand how a GF with a 1 handed weapon can destroy me in 2 hits.
The GF has a one-hand sword. So, or course he delivers more damage than you and your two-hand sword. The GF is a defensive, tanly kind of fighter. Therefore, he hits harder.
You feel like you're in some Lewis Carrol world, uh? Well no, it's only Cryptic.
I did a horrible thing tonight.. I noticed I shy'd my sure strike, so I used the free respect.. man I wish I didn't!! For doing that I got screwed out of the most useful of the secondary at-will's (Weapons Master Strike) which was a great Trash mod/AoE while raged, that has been replaced by an ok, but not as good, and a "screwed my build & play style all up", with "threating rush"..... and to top it off, got rid of Crescendo?! why would you do such a thing! Unless I am missing something and there was a 2nd choicein the Paragon path screen that was not able to see when I "had to" select a paragon path which only shows 1 path to take... (no not the feat screen either) and just a FYI I do not pvp...
So yes Thanks for <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> up my high dps/Aoe rage tank up. -Dev Cred's:mad:
I did a horrible thing tonight.. I noticed I shy'd my sure strike, so I used the free respect.. man I wish I didn't!! For doing that I got screwed out of the most useful of the secondary at-will's (Weapons Master Strike) which was a great Trash mod/AoE while raged, that has been replaced by an ok, but not as good, and a "screwed my build & play style all up", with "threating rush"..... and to top it off, got rid of Crescendo?! why would you do such a thing! Unless I am missing something and there was a 2nd choicein the Paragon path screen that was not able to see when I "had to" select a paragon path which only shows 1 path to take... (no not the feat screen either) and just a FYI I do not pvp...
So yes Thanks for <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> up my high dps/Aoe rage tank up. -Dev Cred's:mad:
You can now choose for Iron Vanguard or Swordmaster before you even go to powers, feats etc.... ? I guess you missed that part ...
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My main problem with the gwf, is that he/she can only attack one target at a time with it's normal attack. That really doesn't make sense to me. Big a** sword, and can only hit one opponent at a time? Even if the one in question is right next to, or even sometimes, on top of the target, you can only attack one at a time? Bull. It would make more sense for the gf's first attack, and the gwf's first attack to be switched. I mean, the gwf's big blades cleave the opponent while the smaller, thinner blade of the gf is more suited to the discribed narrow, percision attacks. Even the animations that they show for the two attacking would make more sense if the other was doing it.
My main problem with the gwf, is that he/she can only attack one target at a time with it's normal attack. That really doesn't make sense to me. Big a** sword, and can only hit one opponent at a time? Even if the one in question is right next to, or even sometimes, on top of the target, you can only attack one at a time? Bull. It would make more sense for the gf's first attack, and the gwf's first attack to be switched. I mean, the gwf's big blades cleave the opponent while the smaller, thinner blade of the gf is more suited to the discribed narrow, percision attacks. Even the animations that they show for the two attacking would make more sense if the other was doing it.
Most of our At-Will's we have can hit multiple targets... Reaping Strike, Weapon Master's Strike, Wicked Strike, and even Sure Strike can (you need to line it up correctly of course!). Threatening Rush can't damage multiple targets (to the best of my knowledge), but it does Mark multiple targets.
So honestly, I have no idea what you are complaining out. You might want to rethink what you wrote... Just saying! lol
Have to agree on that one. I am in a guild of mostly GWF's and I am a GF and I have never felt more useless. The GWF's in my guild put forth twice as much damage as I do, and can tank twice as much damage with their lifesteal pimped out. When we run dungeons they run them with 2 GWF's, 2 other DPS, and a Healer because of this. When I try to run Dungeons with them, they tell me my class is useless and does no damage. So why is there useless classes?
Ireally don't know what GWFs yall have been playing with. before patch I have always out DPSed every class. EVERYONE. and is not uncommon for me to run MC with a damage of over 14 million. and with similar GS classes trailing by well over 3 million. if yall want a high single target DPS go for trickster rogue. we're the melee equivalent of the cw and people forget that. our dps was fine and the new patch actually <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> my character. (im a destroyer, always have been) I didn't need more power and you robed me of my armor pen. and now my DPS is really just stupid. no need to be that high. I was viable before patch. they shoulda just nerfed sent and been done with it. though I do appreciate the continued effort to try and fine tune the classes other than GF wich I thought was one of the funnest classes to play and unfortunately most (how do I say. miss managed/not put together well feat wise and all/ unknown how to say hopefully you know what I mean) that really you should work on more paths instead of messing with ours. like the fact GWF and GF have same paths. that's really an insult if you ask me. and though I am a swordmaster im restricted to that because why would I want moves that look like I have a shield.
Most of our At-Will's we have can hit multiple targets... Reaping Strike, Weapon Master's Strike, Wicked Strike, and even Sure Strike can (you need to line it up correctly of course!). Threatening Rush can't damage multiple targets (to the best of my knowledge), but it does Mark multiple targets.
have to agree. GWF have some of the most powerfull multi target at-wills encounters and dailys in the game. restricted only by our range. (corinioc) can not be a GWF. or atleast not one that knows what hes doin. we are the multi hit melee. and that's our main job. mob killers. and this is my other 10 letters lmao
My main problem with the gwf, is that he/she can only attack one target at a time with it's normal attack. That really doesn't make sense to me. Big a** sword, and can only hit one opponent at a time? Even if the one in question is right next to, or even sometimes, on top of the target, you can only attack one at a time? Bull. It would make more sense for the gf's first attack, and the gwf's first attack to be switched. I mean, the gwf's big blades cleave the opponent while the smaller, thinner blade of the gf is more suited to the discribed narrow, percision attacks. Even the animations that they show for the two attacking would make more sense if the other was doing it.
Should I even say anything. well I will. weapons master strike and wicked strike are the two strongest multi hit at-wills in the game. and guess who has them. GWFS lol. and even your first at will the final hit in the 3 chain damages multi targets. please know what your talking about before you post
I think the only reason CW's are doing more dps in PVE is the cap on ae targets for the GWF. I think I could keep pace with wizards in dps if I could hit everything I am swinging at. Maybe just raise it from 5 to 7 targets and see what impact it has. I already do more dps than rogues just because of ae's, but my single target is not as effective as the rogue, of course.
My other frustration is the weak control abilities. Come and get it does not pull hard enough, roar does not push far enough, and not so fast is not so great. A little more oomf and these abilities might actually be useful to a group.
Maybe, just maybe, give me a .5 second immunity to the start of sprint on a 5 second cooldown. A little lag in a dungeon and you can be hit outside of the telegraphed circles.
Gwf is sucks. No one want gwf in dungeon patry coz he have pure damage. "the Great Weapon Fighter is designed to be a class that excels at AoE DPS and taking hits while providing a bit of control to the fight" Maby you want say- "No control, no damage- this class only for lolz"?
When you were designing this game, I was hoping that this class will be released good. I was wrong.
LMAO. all people want in dungeons is GWF/CW/DC. that's it.
i finally made 18k gs on my gwf and like you theres no point now, unless thell let me trade, m bfg wepon that should do 4 times the damage any the nerfed skills now do,for a bow as theres no pont me even trying get close to a open wourld not dungeon mob of 5 lvl 60 adds cant hit them cant kill them cant hurt them gj with the nerfs nverwinter just became assasins creed 7
A "buff" on one skill while nerfing several doesn't make the class any more viable. I didn't mind the Slam nerf too much but Bravery and Master of Arms were overkill. The class is taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back.
ive played this long enough to build my gwf up to 18k gs and I now do less damage than my lvl 15 pet dog
ya that's what I did 2 months ago now I run away all the time from trash mobs since your turning this game into assasins creed 7 ill log in tomorrow and delete a gwf and make a rogue or a warlock since there be only chars lleft trying to play this game hope you dident want paychecks at Christmas this year cause your def not getting any my money so I can run away from mobs in a 10k gs dungeon when im at 18 k gs and there eating me now great job our guild has suspended all runs in pve dungeons as we nolonger have trash mob control since I cant mitigate any damage at all I might well hang a Dixie cup off my wanger and spin in a circle in the corner at entrance and ask the other 4 how there doing .
try it coppy my char rebuild its skills since you seem to know how make me do huge aoe and give some mob control then post the build so rest us can play again.
obviously you don't play you don't read you don't hear all our partys are fail now.no gwfs allowed anymore anywhere its a game of rogues and warlocks now .and ty for giving me a great big sword with pretty stats. and the lowest dps in the game.A priest at 12 k gs can out dps any 20k gwf now gj blowing it to hell.
all these good players of GWF giving good example how to make the class better all this knowledge is going into the trash,what a waste
and then again they will ask for feedback but they don't listen
I play my GWF since beta and I am realy angry that these ppl don't listen ,its like giving a teenager a good advice but he/she will do the opposite
all these good players of GWF giving good example how to make the class better all this knowledge is going into the trash,what a waste
and then again they will ask for feedback but they don't listen
+1 to that.
The marked lowering of the number of devs recently means that there is no real hope for the future. There won't be an actual rework of animations and feats, thel Sprint won't be replaced by a Parry/Ripost, no dedicated path will ever replace the IV one.
ToD = ..........
Tired of Dailies/Tyranny of Dailies/Timers of Doom/Tricked Or Duped/Tremendously Obnoxious Dailies/Try Otherwise, Devs
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The GF has a one-hand sword. So, or course he delivers more damage than you and your two-hand sword. The GF is a defensive, tanly kind of fighter. Therefore, he hits harder.
You feel like you're in some Lewis Carrol world, uh? Well no, it's only Cryptic.
No, it might be too powerful if anything.
So yes Thanks for <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> up my high dps/Aoe rage tank up. -Dev Cred's:mad:
You can now choose for Iron Vanguard or Swordmaster before you even go to powers, feats etc.... ? I guess you missed that part ...
:cool:
sigh
So honestly, I have no idea what you are complaining out. You might want to rethink what you wrote... Just saying! lol
Not a single one... None at all.
Should I even say anything. well I will. weapons master strike and wicked strike are the two strongest multi hit at-wills in the game. and guess who has them. GWFS lol. and even your first at will the final hit in the 3 chain damages multi targets. please know what your talking about before you post
MC and VT and even ToS GWFs always out dps CWs.
LMAO. all people want in dungeons is GWF/CW/DC. that's it.
I am level 60 GWF
All skills/boons/stats i mean everything are reset and unused
got to complete T1 epic sets: Bladestorm and Scrapper
Thanks in advance
ive played this long enough to build my gwf up to 18k gs and I now do less damage than my lvl 15 pet dog
and then again they will ask for feedback but they don't listen
I play my GWF since beta and I am realy angry that these ppl don't listen ,its like giving a teenager a good advice but he/she will do the opposite
+1 to that.
The marked lowering of the number of devs recently means that there is no real hope for the future. There won't be an actual rework of animations and feats, thel Sprint won't be replaced by a Parry/Ripost, no dedicated path will ever replace the IV one.
Tired of Dailies/Tyranny of Dailies/Timers of Doom/Tricked Or Duped/Tremendously Obnoxious Dailies/Try Otherwise, Devs