So I could still be stubborn and focus on INT/WIS instead? As long as I do my job as controlling? I would rather focus on controlling as a CW, instead of damage. But I also want to be NEEDED in dungeons, unless I can solo most dungeons myself.
I do quite well with Int/Wis, they are my preferred statistics. I also use Controlling Action because I love AP gain.
Great! Awesome! I finally get my CW to lvl 60 with the idea of beeing the CONTROLLER in Dungeons and now it's BAM! Your gonna be the DPSer, wow.
Don't get me wrong, dps is fun but I have my TR for that and soon enough a HR. Why can't they nerf the damage output and buff the control-abilities??
Well, I don't think that's true at all. With my build I pull high damage and high control without Entangling Force or Chill Strike. I know I'm not alone on that as well.
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entellexMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 11Arc User
edited November 2013
THANKS freedumb4eva!
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uurbsMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 449Bounty Hunter
edited November 2013
I did some tests a while back, and for me the change of 800ms and 4% AP gain does not compare to the 4% gain of more damage.
I did some tests a while back, and for me the change of 800ms and 4% AP gain does not compare to the 4% gain of more damage.
So what exactly are you trying to say?
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ironzerg79Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,942Arc User
edited November 2013
As a control wizard you need to bring both HIGH damage and HIGH control to the group. There's honestly no excuse to not pump out a ton of damage in addition to control. You have so many spells that control AND damage, that damage AND debuff, you need to make full use of them.
Ultimately, damage is your BEST source of control. Dead adds do no damage. The faster adds die, the faster the boss goes down and the easier it is for the cleric to heal people because they're taking less damage.
A well played CW doesn't sacrifice control for damage, or damage for control.
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uurbsMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 449Bounty Hunter
As much as I have enjoyed EF in Mastery for my PvE play, I have already decided switch it out. I figure that the more I experiment with different power load outs the better prepared I will be once the nerf hits. (I am Thamaturge spec, but not heavily focused into cold powers)
Right now I am trying:
Mastery: CoI 3 Encounters: Sudden Storm, Shard, Steal Time.
Anyone else have suggestions as to a good power set up? I am looking to try out as many different loads as possible to find the one that I like best.
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As much as I have enjoyed EF in Mastery for my PvE play, I have already decided switch it out. I figure that the more I experiment with different power load outs the better prepared I will be once the nerf hits. (I am Thamaturge spec, but not heavily focused into cold powers)
Right now I am trying:
Mastery: CoI 3 Encounters: Sudden Storm, Shard, Steal Time.
Anyone else have suggestions as to a good power set up? I am looking to try out as many different loads as possible to find the one that I like best.
I will probably run that setup also when the patch goes live (most dmging combo...). For now I enjoy ef on tab :P.
As much as I have enjoyed EF in Mastery for my PvE play, I have already decided switch it out. I figure that the more I experiment with different power load outs the better prepared I will be once the nerf hits. (I am Thamaturge spec, but not heavily focused into cold powers)
Right now I am trying:
Mastery: CoI 3 Encounters: Sudden Storm, Shard, Steal Time.
Anyone else have suggestions as to a good power set up? I am looking to try out as many different loads as possible to find the one that I like best.
That load-out is exactly what I run on my main Thaum CW. I never used EF in PvE unless the group desperately needed even more Singularities for some reason.
As for what ironzerg79 said, I've tried to tell people that, for a good CW, high damage and high control go hand-in-hand, but they seem to have a difficult time understanding what that means. I guess they want to believe that eschewing optimal damage somehow automatically makes them better "control" wizards, or they're too lazy to manage their power usage to achieve the best of both worlds.
uurbsMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 449Bounty Hunter
edited November 2013
I prefer the attribute bonus over the feat bonus. I've a L60 Woodelf as well as a L60 Tiefling CW and the difference is very marginal, IMHO. But whatever race you choose, you should go INT/CHA.
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I do quite well with Int/Wis, they are my preferred statistics. I also use Controlling Action because I love AP gain.
Well, I don't think that's true at all. With my build I pull high damage and high control without Entangling Force or Chill Strike. I know I'm not alone on that as well.
So what exactly are you trying to say?
Ultimately, damage is your BEST source of control. Dead adds do no damage. The faster adds die, the faster the boss goes down and the easier it is for the cleric to heal people because they're taking less damage.
A well played CW doesn't sacrifice control for damage, or damage for control.
Right now I am trying:
Mastery: CoI 3 Encounters: Sudden Storm, Shard, Steal Time.
Anyone else have suggestions as to a good power set up? I am looking to try out as many different loads as possible to find the one that I like best.
I will probably run that setup also when the patch goes live (most dmging combo...). For now I enjoy ef on tab :P.
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That load-out is exactly what I run on my main Thaum CW. I never used EF in PvE unless the group desperately needed even more Singularities for some reason.
As for what ironzerg79 said, I've tried to tell people that, for a good CW, high damage and high control go hand-in-hand, but they seem to have a difficult time understanding what that means. I guess they want to believe that eschewing optimal damage somehow automatically makes them better "control" wizards, or they're too lazy to manage their power usage to achieve the best of both worlds.
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