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What would you prefer poll : More Content or More Bug Fixes?

krahctkrahct Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
There is only so much a development team can do, we as the playerbase can influence the work they do by voicing our opinion.

Are you more frustrated with the bugs or lack of content? In a perfect world (no pun intended) they would do it all, but they appear to not have the staff resources to do it all...in a timely manner. So, let's speak up and let them know what's most important to us as players.

Thanks for your contribution.
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  • powereddjinnpowereddjinn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    krahct wrote: »
    1) more content

    2) more bug fixes

    Yes
    no either or! Just an AND!
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  • krahctkrahct Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    powereddjinn wrote: »
    Yes
    no either or! Just an AND!

    Let's assume that Cryptic's development staff is overworked and has way too much backlog of issues and content to get done. They haven't gotten approval to hire more developers and they're limited in resources.

    Which would you prefer gets done?
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  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Different aspects of staff work on different parts of the game, though. Bug fixes and content development are handled by two different teams entirely.
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  • allaerraallaerra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 838 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Both.

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  • dardovedardove Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lewstelamon01 wrote: »
    Different aspects of staff work on different parts of the game, though. Bug fixes and content development are handled by two different teams entirely.

    That doesn't mean people can't be shifted between teams though.
  • imsmithyimsmithy Member Posts: 1,378 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Id prefer them to fix the huge number of current problems before they release new content , as we have already seen , the Quality part of the QA team over at Cryptic leaves much to be desired as shown with the huge mess that was the Gauntelgrym release , before they release new content , especially a huge patch like Fury they need to make sure the current in game systems are all solid otherwise they are just going to be piling a massive number of new issues on top of the already existing ones and it'll get to a point where the game will be literally unplayable.
  • antovarasantovaras Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    dardove wrote: »
    That doesn't mean people can't be shifted between teams though.

    So an artist gets put to work on a pathing bug? Bad idea... That's the sort of team he's talking about.... Broken down by function.
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  • andotacoandotaco Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Well... Considering there are usually two completely different teams working on content vs bug fixes I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a decision as to which should come first is not really warranted....
  • cheesegromitcheesegromit Member Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    A lack of things I want to do is the main reason I'm not playing very much these days. So given the choice I'll take more content.
  • jihancritiasjihancritias Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Or, with the overpriced zen shop items getting bought constantly, they can hire more coders and fix bugs, all while others can create content.
    TL : DR? Then don't waste my time responding.
  • khatzhaskhatzhas Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    jihancritias wrote: »
    Or, with the overpriced zen shop items getting bought constantly, they can hire more coders and fix bugs, all while others can create content.
    Or that could go to upkeep the servers, retain the staff, and pay off the debt ran up while the game was being created, but not making any money back yet.
  • dardovedardove Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    antovaras wrote: »
    So an artist gets put to work on a pathing bug? Bad idea... That's the sort of team he's talking about.... Broken down by function.

    No, I mean like taking someone who is working on creating new powers and switching them over to the bug fixing team to fix powers or vice versa
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited July 2013
    . . . . . Unable to vote as I choose both or abstain without. Different departments and all. No need to separate the two. I'd rather have a dedicated bug fixing team rather than pulling people from other departments and making them do something else besides their job description. So, both/abstain.
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  • bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    jihancritias wrote: »
    Or, with the overpriced zen shop items getting bought constantly, they can hire more coders and fix bugs, all while others can create content.

    The thing is, to bring in new staff they'd have to pull someone off an active project in order to train them in the various tools and systems for the game. That means that you'd have 1 less active programmer for a month or more, while they bring the new guy up to speed...
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  • nick1sternnick1stern Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 330 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    lewstelamon01 wrote: »
    Different aspects of staff work on different parts of the game, though. Bug fixes and content development are handled by two different teams entirely.

    Really you try to use logic in a Forum thread?
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    nick1stern wrote: »
    Really you try to use logic in a Forum thread?

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  • torskaldrtorskaldr Member Posts: 559 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I would like bug fixes with the new content. I'm pretty sure they can pull off both. Of course there are always bugs and room for more content, so...
  • m1nuendm1nuend Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    More content, more bugs equals neverending ocean of things that they have no time or people to fix?
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  • grimahgrimah Member Posts: 1,658 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    i feels like the true meta-game is to find all the bugs and shortcuts you can, and people showing how "elite" they are for knowing them. Its somehow become neverwinter's signature now : /
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  • pelkastpelkast Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I want to see new content and more importantly some serious game improvements of already released content. They need to be improved and polished not only fixed.
  • johnygwapojohnygwapo Member Posts: 442 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Remove exploits gaddamit
  • adinosiiadinosii Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,294 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I would like to see more content - however, unless a few critical bugs and exploits are fixed, any further content might be irrelevant, as too many people will leave for the game to be profitable.

    And yes, regarding the "it's different teams that work on content and bugfixes" comment - it's irrelevant - it's all about resource allocation - how many people do you employ on the different teams, and the relative priorities change over the lifespan of projects.
    Hoping for improvements...
  • khatzhaskhatzhas Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    adinosii wrote: »
    And yes, regarding the "it's different teams that work on content and bugfixes" comment - it's irrelevant - it's all about resource allocation - how many people do you employ on the different teams, and the relative priorities change over the lifespan of projects.
    The priorities may change, but its not like a resource allocation game where you can change focus on a monthly basis.
    The time and money cost of dropping one of the art team, paying their redundancy, recruiting a coder to fix bugs, training them up and familiarising them with the game and the system before they can actually start working means that it probably takes several months to change priorities . . . during which time you have less people working on the game as a whole.

    And after those several months, you may need to change priorities again.
  • krahctkrahct Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I get it, that there are two teams, I get it that some of you want both things fixed..What I'd like people to do is consider there are limited resources at Cryptic. A poll like this can help team leads and hiring managers decide where they need to beef up there staff the most.

    Great input so far, keep the votes coming.
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  • lostmarblesherelostmarbleshere Banned Users Posts: 654 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    krahct wrote: »
    There is only so much a development team can do, we as the playerbase can influence the work they do by voicing our opinion.

    Are you more frustrated with the bugs or lack of content? In a perfect world (no pun intended) they would do it all, but they appear to not have the staff resources to do it all...in a timely manner. So, let's speak up and let them know what's most important to us as players.

    Thanks for your contribution.

    This is a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> poll the answer is both. If they dont have the funds yet this game will fail and all you people that waisted all your cash on a failed game suck it up buttercup.

    BY <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> people in the zen store i am sure they have the funds to do both by now.

    Wotc should of done more prospecting for a better dev company. Going with the lowest bid is never a good idea.
  • cinj216cinj216 Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    krahct wrote: »
    What I'd like people to do is consider there are limited resources at Cryptic. A poll like this can help team leads and hiring managers decide where they need to beef up there staff the most.

    You presume too much that you either do or should have influence over how the company conducts its internal affairs. The company is going to manage its workload and hire people as it sees fit completely oblivious to people like you who like to play armchair CEO.

    Get real.
  • dardovedardove Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lostmarbleshere wrote: »
    Wotc should of done more prospecting for a better dev company. Going with the lowest bid is never a good idea.

    I doubt WoTC had much control over who developed the game. When this game started production, Atari owned both the publishing rights to all D&D games and Cryptic Studios. They have since lost both though.
  • psychicslugpsychicslug Member Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    First it is quite obvious that the person posting this thread and those who agree with that said person have no concept or idea that a person or persons whose job it is to make, say a game asset is not a debugger as thats not the same job. I could break this down and go into more detail but feel as Would be like teaching monkeys to use tools. An assembly line worker puts on part on the machine he is great at doing this but does not know how to fix the whole machine which is why you take the machine to a tech whose job it is to look at the machine as a whole and find as to why the parts are not working together.
  • liquidc86liquidc86 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    both ... its their job anyways.
    nothing to see here
  • krahctkrahct Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lostmarbleshere wrote: »
    This is a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> poll the answer is both. If they dont have the funds yet this game will fail and all you people that waisted all your cash on a failed game suck it up buttercup.

    BY <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> people in the zen store i am sure they have the funds to do both by now.

    Wotc should of done more prospecting for a better dev company. Going with the lowest bid is never a good idea.

    Then this game is doomed, because it's apparent they can't do it all...in a timely manner. Their audience will leave before they get to fixing it all and adding enough content to satisfy the masses.
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