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Bots ruining the economy?
adinosii
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Like everyone else I pick up various enchants and runestones every now and then. I fuse them together, and when I have a level 5 one, I sell it - and while the income is not huge, it is a nice side benefit.
What annoys me is that it is getting less and less feasible for people like me to sell a handful of enchants every now and then because the prices are being driven lower and lower by people selling massive stacks - multiple stacks of 99 level 5 enchants - no way anyone can obtain that except by cheating or running an army of bots.
I play on Mindflayer, and today I noticed someone selling such stacks, and what's more, the character name was nothing but a blatant advertisement for a gold/AD selling site.
Still, Cryptic/PWE doesn't seem to care - this must hurt their Zen sales, so why on earth don't they crack down on people like this one?
Anyhow, this kind of things is seriously hurting my interest in the game - I have spent around $200 on the game - a fair amount in my opinion, considering the hours of fun I have gotten out of it, but as things stand, it seems unlikely that I will be giving Crypyic/PWE a dime more - their unwillingness (or incompetence) in dealing with problems like this is simply killing my interest in the game.
So, does Cryptic/PWE want honest, paying customers, or a game that is only a wasteland of bots running around?
What annoys me is that it is getting less and less feasible for people like me to sell a handful of enchants every now and then because the prices are being driven lower and lower by people selling massive stacks - multiple stacks of 99 level 5 enchants - no way anyone can obtain that except by cheating or running an army of bots.
I play on Mindflayer, and today I noticed someone selling such stacks, and what's more, the character name was nothing but a blatant advertisement for a gold/AD selling site.
Still, Cryptic/PWE doesn't seem to care - this must hurt their Zen sales, so why on earth don't they crack down on people like this one?
Anyhow, this kind of things is seriously hurting my interest in the game - I have spent around $200 on the game - a fair amount in my opinion, considering the hours of fun I have gotten out of it, but as things stand, it seems unlikely that I will be giving Crypyic/PWE a dime more - their unwillingness (or incompetence) in dealing with problems like this is simply killing my interest in the game.
So, does Cryptic/PWE want honest, paying customers, or a game that is only a wasteland of bots running around?
Hoping for improvements...
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its normal
Are you one of these bots? Lol.
It is NOT normal. Cryptic should hunt these people down and ban their account, simple as that. You don't need to be a Clairvoyant to understand that selling a stack of 99 enchantments comes from a bot.
unless you remove exactly as much enchants form the game as are beeing looted from chests, the total number on a server will only go up
its the same with everything that gets created out of thin air
Bots don't loot enchantments from chest, they use skill nodes. Problem that can be solved removing skill nodes at all or putting them ONLY in 5-man dungeons. I never liked them anyway. It's basically a one-time-only chest for the first one to get there. Useless.
If you think it is normal to have such a high number of bots in a game, you are doing it really wrong.
Sorry, but there is nothing "normal" about this - Nobody can collect hundreds of lvl 5 enchants in any "normal" way - you either have to use some kind of stack duplication exploit or run multiple bots. That's not normal. What is also not normal is the total failure of Cryptic/PWE do do anything about this or even to respond to complaints about this...it is almost as if they want to drive their paying customers away.
i never said anything about the number of bots though it is normal too to have such a high amount since the game is easily botable but thats not the intend nor the topic of my posts
i said its normal that we have such a high number of enchantments, may they come from chests, skillnodes, events, whatever, it is normal that over time the number will increase and thus prices will fall
Edit: and posting with your second account wont change that fact either
I read them and they are making me laugh. You think it is normal to have multiple stacks of 99 enchantments rank 5 at this point of the game. Right. Number of bots doesn't even matter. Even if it was 1, it should be perma-banned. THIS IS NOT NORMAL.
You are amusing.
is reading comprehension really that low on these boards?
As long as cryptic's code allow for duping, stacks of 99 everything will be in the AH.
When you gave a reply like "It's normal" to bots using a character name as advertisement for a gold/AD selling site selling cheap enchants and runing the economy, you should jolly well know you will be flamed. BADLY.
Especially when your recent posts for different OPs all implying "It is your problem, not the game's problem." Even forum readers with perfect reading comprehension will just lose their cool when imbeciles stating such stuff "is normal".
That's all this guy is saying.
It is "common knowledge" that every single MMO has bots of some kind, and there is no escape, no matter how good the bot-catching technology is, or how many GMs there are. The thing is whether it is a wise thing to just slap an answer "It's normal!". It is as though the poster actually supports such action by just saying so simply and nonchalantly, especially considering the current oh-so-in-your-face bot problem Neverwinter is facing, comparing to other games...
please quote me where i said in my first post that its normal "to bots using a character name as advertisement for a gold/AD selling site selling cheap enchants and runing the economy"
i said its normal that the number of enchants is growing over time and that the bots just fasten that process and nothing else
forum readers with perfect reading comprehension would have seen that
You got a problem with that?
What other readers read is not what you expect them to read. Why don't you go learn how to express your thoughts in a more tactful way, rather than blaming others for failed reading comprehension?
Even with 20 bots running it would take a fair amount of time to gather the hundreds of these you see one person selling. They are more than likely stockpiled from the dupe which was rampant a few weeks ago, or from a new dupe which is being kept secret by a few gold sellers.
and now you even admit that youre trolling me
funny guy
aint my problem if people cant read, what is unacceptable is that people put words into my mouth and thus accusing me of botting
You should go to The Chasm. There is one particular dungeon/instance whether gazillions of TRs go in and out. If you see one with a guild tag, do a search on the guild. The guild is filled with dozens of level 60 TRs on the same instance.
I heard that there are more elsewhere, whether the dungeons are small, weak creatures and several lootable nodes.
It would be nice if it is just 20 bots.
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sigh... please quote me where i said in my post that "I am trolling you".
I only ask you whether you got a problem with that, and I see that you still do. And the way you write out your answer will HAVE people put words into YOUR mouth, whether you like it or not. So, learn to write tactfully, escpecially when botting is so-oh-in-your-face in Neverwinter.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of the original post. Maybe you should not have been so hasty in accusing others of insufficient reading comprehension.
I would also suggest that if you want your posts to be taken seriously, or want people to have some respect for you and your opinions, you should cut back on the insults, like "forum readers with perfect reading comprehension would have seen that" or "and posting with your second account wont change that fact either", unless your goal is to get a reputation as a forum troll, that is.
The facts are simply that there is a huge number of large stacks being sold, and Cryptic/PWE looks either incompetent or unwilling to do anything about this, even when the sellers are blatantly advertising gold/AD selling sites.
If you mean randomly timed respawn in random places, then it will be a good suggestion. Though I believe it will hardly stop the bots, if at all.
the subject of the original post is that the guy cant sell his encfhants at the old prices cause theres alot more of them now and he blames cryptic for that cause they dont remove the bots
and my post has alot to do with that
Yeah, I agree, dupes also do contribute. Just hope there is no real dupe available, and all fingers can just point at the bots.
Yes it does, but in a very volatile, flammable, ready to start a flame war answer. Other readers will acknowledge there are bots, but will not just slap a "its normal" with will just pizz off all concerned players.
only if they didnt understand my post and thought i said bots are normal
So you had edited your post, then why did you write like that in the first place?
So can we agree that because you cannot phrase your answer properly in the first place, you had caused all the unnecessary flaming, and it all comes down to you, rather than other readers' reading comprehension because of how badly you phrase your answer?
Also, please take down the "the massive farmers just fastened the process" phrase, if you absolutely do not want to be associated with them.
You don't understand do you?
The fact that enchantments will grow in numbers is a fact obvious to everyone. The fact that they are growing RIGHT NOW, AT THIS VERY STAGE OF THE GAME and THIS HIGH IS NOT NORMAL because it's bots' work. Your statement is wrong in every sense.
Following the normal course of the events, multiple stacks of 99 of enchantments should happen in about 2 years or even later. You're still amusing thou.
youre just starting another flame at that point, better stop now
oh, now we add the "right now" part to make me look stupid cause otherwise youd have to ackowledge that i am in the right?
funny
but same goes for you: dont try to taunt me into more flames then youve already done