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  • shurrik0shurrik0 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I am a causal player who started playing with open beta start.
    Now i have full t2 and a full t1 i have 2 rank 7(everything else 6) and everything ancient except rings where i want special ones. I have a cat too and i bought 3 coalescent wards, dont need any more
    I am a gf, so i get no love from groups. But i always do DD event and i got enough money for my nearly perfect gear. I never spent money and not too much effort but with enoug effort i would have everything.
    I did not spend any money and ofc i didnt use any bug abuse.

    So mr. Topicwriter: its not pay2win, but its play2win, think2win(market) and grind2win.
  • ganjaman1ganjaman1 Member Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    LOL, everyone on his shard (and even here on the foruns) knows that he got that gear in a legit way...

    rofl you can't be serious
  • abombination247abombination247 Member Posts: 1,279 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Rank 7 enchants ? Muahahahahaaha. What about Rank 10 enchants that's where it is at. Who complains about rank 7 ? Jees that's so back in april.
  • demarc01demarc01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    As one of the first 60s I sold PvP weapons for 600k each before anyone caught on to how easily obtainable they are. Got full T2 from drops. Continued T2s and sold extra loot for 500k-1mil. Making AD is really easy and all it takes is knowing what sells, when, and how to get it.

    Coming from the guy caught exploiting bugged GF sets to farm T2's ... your opinion carrys little weight. Exploited AD.
  • sludge01sludge01 Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The game was unbalanced from day 1. Let's look at the facts
    Day 1: Cheaters throw billions and billions of fake AD into the economy
    Day 3: Cheaters exploit foundry to level 60, and start farming T2 gear
    Day 5: The cheaters (maybe no AD cheaters), sell their gains to AD cheaters, throwing billions of fake AD into the economy, the ONLY people who could pay those 5 Million AD auctioons on day 5, were obviously AD dupers, cause no-one, and I mean NO-ONE would have 5M AD on day 5 to spend unless they duped.
    Repeat until day 21.. Literally Trillions of fake AD has flooded the economy. Exploiters are selling their cheated drops for far more money than a REAL economy would support. There were Tier-9 enchants selling for 10M AD, almost from the first week. The only way to pay for those is with counterfeit AD.
    Day 22: The AD exploit became common knowledge, and the AH is taken offline for 3 days to fix it..
    Day 23-Present: The economy is still seriously unbalanced, simply because there are still billions and billions of fake AD around. every couple of days, the counterfeiters buy up Zen, but not too much at once, because they don't want to drive the price back up to 500, where is was for about a week. If the price of zen hits 500, then you know it's because of an AD exploit.

    Fix: Wait for the kiddies to get bored. The big losers in all of this is anyone who spent real money on the game. If you spent $20.00, $60,00, $200,00 or more, you got screwed. The value of the so called 'AD' or ZEN you paid for, was corrupted. Don't get mad, just stop spending money. In a year or so, if this game is still around, the economy might recover. But as of today, it's fun to play, but you really shouldn't care if you have the best gear/dps/whatever. It doesn't really matter. You can do CN with a 10K gs, it's not too hard. Sure, you will run into jerks on PUG, but who cares. Play, Have fun, don't spend any money..

    Final note: don't expect to get AD from the web interface on professions. Most of the time, the rewarded AD never shows up. They 'say' it auto processes the AD, but I've never see it work that way. l login after a day of generating AD from the web inteface, expecting to see 6-7,000 AD on my character, but it never shows up.
  • breagandaerthbreagandaerth Member Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    sludge01 wrote: »
    The game was unbalanced from day 1. Let's look at the facts
    Day 1: Cheaters throw billions and billions of fake AD into the economy
    Day 3: Cheaters exploit foundry to level 60, and start farming T2 gear
    Day 5: The cheaters (maybe no AD cheaters), sell their gains to AD cheaters, throwing billions of fake AD into the economy, the ONLY people who could pay those 5 Million AD auctioons on day 5, were obviously AD dupers, cause no-one, and I mean NO-ONE would have 5M AD on day 5 to spend unless they duped.
    Repeat until day 21.. Literally Trillions of fake AD has flooded the economy. Exploiters are selling their cheated drops for far more money than a REAL economy would support. There were Tier-9 enchants selling for 10M AD, almost from the first week. The only way to pay for those is with counterfeit AD.
    Day 22: The AD exploit became common knowledge, and the AH is taken offline for 3 days to fix it..
    Day 23-Present: The economy is still seriously unbalanced, simply because there are still billions and billions of fake AD around. every couple of days, the counterfeiters buy up Zen, but not too much at once, because they don't want to drive the price back up to 500, where is was for about a week. If the price of zen hits 500, then you know it's because of an AD exploit.

    Fix: Wait for the kiddies to get bored. The big losers in all of this is anyone who spent real money on the game. If you spent $20.00, $60,00, $200,00 or more, you got screwed. The value of the so called 'AD' or ZEN you paid for, was corrupted. Don't get mad, just stop spending money. In a year or so, if this game is still around, the economy might recover. But as of today, it's fun to play, but you really shouldn't care if you have the best gear/dps/whatever. It doesn't really matter. You can do CN with a 10K gs, it's not too hard. Sure, you will run into jerks on PUG, but who cares. Play, Have fun, don't spend any money..

    Final note: don't expect to get AD from the web interface on professions. Most of the time, the rewarded AD never shows up. They 'say' it auto processes the AD, but I've never see it work that way. l login after a day of generating AD from the web inteface, expecting to see 6-7,000 AD on my character, but it never shows up.

    Wow this post just cracks me up. You really believe there is some evil guy out there with millions of AD just waiting on the sideline slowly selling off his AD for zen. But he won't do it fast to mess up the economy. But the economy is messed up anyways because he isn't spending them but has them. So even though the economy isn't messed up because he isn't spending his AD or doing it very slowly it will take years to get the game economy back on track.

    Sounds like you put a lot of thought into this rant.
  • hhbombhhbomb Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I haven't spent a dime on this game and I have everything you're complaining about zzz.

    Yea because you exploited the hell out of the game and probably have ten's of millions of AD.........
  • nukeyoonukeyoo Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    hhbomb wrote: »
    Yea because you exploited the hell out of the game and probably have ten's of millions of AD.........
    Yes, more idiots that think everyone that has gear is a cheater... gg
    nukeyoo wrote: »
    Your tears taste of salty anger, frustration, and jealousy.... mmmm McQQ sammiches on the value menu! 'MURIKA #1 :rolleyes:
  • uncag3duncag3d Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I haven't spent a dime on this game and I have everything you're complaining about zzz.

    Same, farm farm farm.. get geared.. we have nothing left to do thats why you are pvping vs us now...
    FearITsSelf #1 GF
    From #1 Guild Pve/Pvp [ Lemonade Stand ]
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Honestly, I don't think you understand what the issue is. I will make it in simple grammar.

    It takes months for a non paying player to get the wards to get the final tier enchants and runes compare to a zen paying player who has the best gear and enchants, in 3 weeks or less.

    I also love how you can misdirect your argument but then later on go about hinting you "do" enjoy being over-geared because you contradicted yourself by saying you enjoy reading QQ post.

    This is how people see you, you "payed for zen" or got "lucky" in the AD confusion on AH, you now have all the top gear, weapon and armor enchants, and runes there for this allows you to "Rolfstomp" because no one can size you up.

    So in other words, you are not challenging yourself, there for you have no competition, and you are basically not PvPing. Do you understand now or... are we going to play "coy" and lie about cheating?

    Edit: I find your redirect of words of you accusing me about QQing about "Class Balance" when... there can be no class balance unless there is a gear balance first between paying customers and non paying customers.


    Im not writing to start a flame here but I will say this. If you know how the economy works and can play the AH you can make hundreds of thousands of AD in a few days. I am checking the AH all the time for deals because there are HUGE price discrepancies in items (I wont tell what because its my secret ^^ ) however, 1 trick I will say, NEVER put something for auction at a low bid. It only encourages people to snipe at the last second. I recently saw a greater tene enchant sell for 120k on the AH cause some moron tried to save 5k AD and not post it for a min bid of 500k+. I have gotten MANY deals like this (this is how I got my armor) and also how you can get your gear/enchants with a little work.

    I also think that BiS gear SHOULD take forever to get. People have been able to buy great gear in ANY game and it DOES make a difference. So why is it different in this game? Because cryptic is participating in the transaction? If they werent, other companies would STILL do it and people would STILL buy gear.

    I realize its not how you SHOULD have to play, but also realize it isnt. You can still play without buying gear AND get great gear. Also teamwork PWNS 1 skilled geared person. Yes I have seen great greared people stomp pvp, but I have also seen a decent group with decent gear STOMP great geared players too. 1 "choke" or CC from a CW and a rogue that comes up and 2v1 you, you will die in 5 seconds regardless of your gear.

    While I am sympathetic to you desiring to not pay for a game, I also think "Most games cost $60 today and people pay and play..." just think about that. I mean it IS a company that is trying to GIVE their work away, how else can they stay in business except find ways to try and make money off the game... This F2P model maybe could have been implemented a little better, however but at the end of the day, I guarantee your /played is over 2 FULL days meaning ATLEAST 48 hours... I can recall MOST games I have bought that I spend less then that on...

    Can you really hate something that gave you 48hours+ of FREE entertainment? How many movies in theater is that? 20+? Movies cost around $10, so your getting $200 worth of movie hours for FREE...
  • shurrik0shurrik0 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Good answer.
  • bagladykillerbagladykiller Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    deephorizon if you spent more time playing the game than you did on here running your mouth, you'd be geared just fine.
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