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  • klipstaklipsta Member Posts: 99
    edited May 2013
    TR Should be highest single target DPS. I think the above poster is correct in saying that these numbers are inflated by AOE damage.
  • selonwselonw Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 258
    edited May 2013
    Judging by the time the topic was made you can imagine he made it during the beta, and it was becouse there were so many whineposts about TR beeing OP and he wanted to distract the internetraging people a little bit.
  • teemoorteemoor Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 82
    edited May 2013
    Hehe, that's so true. Our rogue did only 30k bleed ticks yesterday on Drakolich. His damage is pathetic. I as a DC got tired of this bullcrap and just went and oneshotted the lich with my Astral Seal. Kicked the rogue too.
  • laudon1laudon1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ranncore wrote: »
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    There are reports coming in that the Eiffel Tower has fallen.

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    See what I did there? Unless you can cite a credible source, I'm just going to wave this off as nothing important. And since every previous experience indicates otherwise, I have no reason to believe you.

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  • hkfrenchtoasthkfrenchtoast Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Serves the TR right. Think they are hot shush just because they can dance around and throw daggers.
  • sanctumlolsanctumlol Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 382 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    This is fake. People move on.
  • slyteshslytesh Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    CWs do out damge (total damage) TRs in mob-heavy dungeons like Never. Nothing new or unexpected here, as they are AoE.
  • etherealjetherealj Member Posts: 1,091 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    No one competes with well played and geared rogues. OP is hilarious.

    Non boss damage output is immaterial.....
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  • aphasiaaphasia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well, its about time that DC get some pwnage :P
  • kerlaakerlaa Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Strange.

    My 59 DC isn't seeing the top of any charts other then heals (1.5-1.7mil) and damage taken. If anything I find my DC slipping back in the damage department (between throwing up heals and kiting adds).

    My CW is however usually always in the top 2-3 but it depends on how well I can keep them grouped up with Arcane Singularity. Problem with AS is the tighter the group the better most other classes do as well, but in the end thats a good thing.
  • e11ze11z Member Posts: 144 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    In my honest opinion as a TR.

    I couldn't give a flying Dogs bollocks if i wasn't the top DPSer and I am happy to let any CW or GWF take the top spot any day.

    Just as long as I don't get a backlash of "**** dpser TR **** fagget."

    I sacrificed some skills just to make life easier for my party (smoke bomb) and hell I respec'd to lose some damage feats and give 5% crit to me and the team. (which actually was pretty nice for my dps in the end..BUT i didn't know this beforehand!)

    So Yeah if you see me ingame you can be sure I'll pull my weight, but I won't be Freaking out when or if people do more damage.
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  • lassewtlassewt Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    selonw wrote: »
    There are several reports comming in that CW and DC are outdpsing TR in 50+ dungeons

    This is something Cryptic needs to look into fast, stop listening to all the rogue nerfcalling posts from lvl 20 players.

    Classes with alot more utilities shouldnt outdps a pure striker class

    Those complaints are not from level 20 players. At least I can say that with some degree of certainty because I'm not one. You however are stating facts, but have no evidence. Until I see your 'reports' I don't believe you.
  • lerdocixlerdocix Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Can we please stop fueling 6 weeks old troll thread made by someone who is long gone from the game already?
  • tarmalentarmalen Member Posts: 1,020 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    I play a GWF. I know right? Self gimp AT it's finest.
  • tvalaltvalal Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 36
    edited May 2013
    T2 i can agree that Cw do more damage since there is ALOT of adds there. But i have never been out damaged by a CW ever befor t2. But at the same time i rarely get beaten by rogues with my 60 cw.

    Think it's more of bad feat/encounters then poor class.
  • teemoorteemoor Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 82
    edited May 2013
    If a rogue is outdpsed by a CW - he's either very undergeared or fails ultra-hard.
    No class comes even close to TR's dmg.
  • zardoz007zardoz007 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    selonw wrote: »
    There are several reports comming in that CW and DC are outdpsing TR in 50+ dungeons

    This is something Cryptic needs to look into fast, stop listening to all the rogue nerfcalling posts from lvl 20 players.

    Classes with alot more utilities shouldnt outdps a pure striker class

    TR still do more DPS, Damage per second to a single target than any other class. Wizards and Clerics can only get a higher Total damage delat only because they have aces to aoe attacks and can hit more mobs for smaller damage.

    If this is your Logic. GWF should be the king of Total damage dealt as they are a pure striker class (yes they obviously can't tank) with Aoe attacks.

    The fighter fixes need to come before rogue tweaks. But I do agree all melee class need a bit more love compared to how useful ranged classes are just for being ranged classes.
  • pinkfontpinkfont Member Posts: 563 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Sometimes a CW manages to beat me in the charts. No big deal.

    But if a frickin' cleric ever out-damages me; I'm deleting this game, uninstalling windows, abandoning all technology, and becoming a luddite hermit.
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  • wolfheartazwolfheartaz Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    selonw wrote: »
    There are several reports comming in that CW and DC are outdpsing TR in 50+ dungeons

    This is something Cryptic needs to look into fast, stop listening to all the rogue nerfcalling posts from lvl 20 players.

    Classes with alot more utilities shouldnt outdps a pure striker class

    What reports?

    Were the players the ALL the same lvl? (A lvl 58 CW WILL out damage my lvl 53 TR)

    Was the gear all comparable?

    My point is, unless they are all lvl 60 in tier 2 gear, there is no point crying about DC out dpsing a TR..get it?
  • akostisakostis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 56
    edited May 2013
    tyler23434 wrote: »
    I would guess that these rumors that cw and dc doing better endgame raids are just trolling TRs spreading lies to keep their god class from getting nurfed.

    This is 100% exactly what is going on IMHO....

    Regards
  • nukeyoonukeyoo Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woySeSNBL3o trololol...

    At lvl 60 with 11k+gs and running 6 greater tenebrous and greater plague fire weapon enchantment and ioun stone of allure, I can keep up with a well played rogue dps on my cw.. Fail rogues get left in the dust like yesterday in frozen heart. One of the rogues claimed my dps was higher because "I failed at CC'n the CC immune mobs properly so he could only use range part of the time." A rogue explaining why he fails at dps because he had mobs in melee range, steal time combat advantage up on CD, greater plaguefire defense debuff and ray of enfeeblement damage resistance debuff on targets... I only mentioned "rogue complaining about mobs being in melee range, rofl" and then he commented that he wish it wasn't the internet because I'd get killed irl.. and then him and the other rogue died repeatedly to the final boss aoe causing me to quit group laughing at their terribleness.

    So the fix to all this, there should be a competency skill test for each class so that the classes stats and abilities can be boosted for the less competent players and then nerfed for the players that can push button correctly. That way we can all be balanced and fair and nobody has to sit at the back of the bus.
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