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  • enctenct Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    1. There are game testing phases known as alpha and beta. Alpha is usually when there are major changes. Beta can also have major changes, but changes during most game betas tend to be smaller, like bug fixes and rebalancing.

    2. The testing phase for an MMO ends once player game data is said to be permanent. MMOs are always going to change and bugfix, that doesn't mean every MMO is in beta.

    3. Game companies nowadays keep the label of open beta on a game (or even skip a real open beta phase entirely), purely so they can double dip in advertising. Why would you want to only get attention for your release when you can get attention for open beta, and then later claim to have arbitrarily "officially" launched the game and get even more attention? These fake game launches are usually coupled with a content update, which in Neverwinter's case probably will be the ranger/warlock patch.
  • jorealjoreal Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    enct wrote: »
    1. There are game testing phases known as alpha and beta. Alpha is usually when there are major changes. Beta can also have major changes, but changes during most game betas tend to be smaller, like bug fixes and rebalancing.

    2. The testing phase for an MMO ends once player game data is said to be permanent. MMOs are always going to change and bugfix, that doesn't mean every MMO is in beta.

    3. Game companies nowadays keep the label of open beta on a game (or even skip a real open beta phase entirely), purely so they can double dip in advertising. Why would you want to only get attention for your release when you can get attention for open beta, and then later claim to have arbitrarily "officially" launched the game and get even more attention? These fake game launches are usually coupled with a content update, which in Neverwinter's case probably will be the ranger/warlock patch.

    According to who's definition? Each company itself defines their own testing and release criteria. There is no rulebook for game release. If you don't like how the company operates or the game plays then don't play it. No one has any obligation to keep you as a customer, especially if you don't like it. Not all games are made exclusively for you...in fact I would venture to guess that NONE are. So stomp and scream that you aren't getting what you want all you want, no one cares.
  • wingofbenuwingofbenu Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    joreal wrote: »
    They have NO obligation to tell you ANYTHING about their development plans. You are not entitled to ANYTHING. Just because you spend money on a game doesn't give you any rights to the development process. The only thing you get is the ability to play the game that is presented. If you don't like the game then don't play it. Give you feedback and come back when the game IS released and decide if you want to try it again.

    it'll never be "released"
  • wingofbenuwingofbenu Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    joreal wrote: »
    According to who's definition? Each company itself defines their own testing and release criteria. There is no rulebook for game release. If you don't like how the company operates or the game plays then don't play it. No one has any obligation to keep you as a customer, especially if you don't like it. Not all games are made exclusively for you...in fact I would venture to guess that NONE are. So stomp and scream that you aren't getting what you want all you want, no one cares.

    remember guys, companies set all the rules and if you dont abide by everything a company says you're a lazy entitled hippie communazi atheist muslim who doesnt work hard at a backbreaking factory job all day and drink beer with his high school sweetie on the back of his truck on saturday night like a real murrican capitalist.
  • enctenct Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    joreal wrote: »
    There is no rulebook for game release. If you don't like how the company operates or the game plays then don't play it. No one has any obligation to keep you as a customer, especially if you don't like it. Not all games are made exclusively for you...in fact I would venture to guess that NONE are. So stomp and scream that you aren't getting what you want all you want, no one cares.
    you are a tremendous idiot

    you even had my post quoted and still managed to somehow put tons of words in my mouth, not that that's the sole reason for your idiocy

    I post this in hopes that it humbles you
  • felixng2013felixng2013 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    None of that matters when there is a cash shop or when you can spend money.
  • farafoxfarafox Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    wingofbenu wrote: »
    if you want a half-built, half-assed game with a fully functional cash shop, then by all means, continue defending Cryptic.

    But just know this has been their and PWE's model for every game. and they never fix half of whats wrong. ever.

    I have one important question for you. IF you feel this way and have experience playing their other games WHY are you playing this one and then complaining about it knowing full well what to expect? Apparently you don't have that much of a problem or you would have stopped playing and saved us the misfortune of listening to you whine about it along with many others that seem to feel the same way.

    If you don't like the game or the devs THAT MUCH quit playing and STFU!
  • freemind25freemind25 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 68
    edited May 2013
    wingofbenu wrote: »
    remember guys, companies set all the rules and if you dont abide by everything a company says you're a lazy entitled hippie communazi atheist muslim who doesnt work hard at a backbreaking factory job all day and drink beer with his high school sweetie on the back of his truck on saturday night like a real murrican capitalist.

    America, **** yea! -_-

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    farafox wrote: »
    I have one important question for you. IF you feel this way and have experience playing their other games WHY are you playing this one and then complaining about it knowing full well what to expect? Apparently you don't have that much of a problem or you would have stopped playing and saved us the misfortune of listening to you whine about it along with many others that seem to feel the same way.

    If you don't like the game or the devs THAT MUCH quit playing and STFU!

    yea, nobody has ever changed anything by complaining. Just bend over and take it like a man.
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