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AD/Zen Exchange is way too high - This game is too expensive
plaetus
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 3 Arc User
I will be yet another to add to the list of players to say that this game has become way too extensive to play correctly. I have dumped hundred of dollars into this game, for the hero founder pack as well as way more than I expected in purchasing Zen. All just to get the items my characters need to level up properly.
I for one am very discouraged at the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> of the gaming community by Perfect World just to line their pockets. I may not understand all of the reasons behind the way items have been marketed, but I may not be able to afford to seen the end game if the prices and the AD/Zen Exchange continue the way they are now.
Why do we need the AD in first place? Does there really have to be 3 currencies in this game to make it more difficult to have the income to pay for the gear we need to play this game?
I for one am very discouraged at the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> of the gaming community by Perfect World just to line their pockets. I may not understand all of the reasons behind the way items have been marketed, but I may not be able to afford to seen the end game if the prices and the AD/Zen Exchange continue the way they are now.
Why do we need the AD in first place? Does there really have to be 3 currencies in this game to make it more difficult to have the income to pay for the gear we need to play this game?
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It's people like you that keep the prices high. You paid 10 dollars, for a ****ing bag? Do you also buy the new CoD every year? If people would stop buying ****ty items, games, and supporting terrible companies with terrible prices they would actually become player base friendly.
Some fo us pay for things we like.
I bought ten keys and a 30 dollar mount because I ejoy the game and those 2 things made me enjoy ti even more.
Why can your broke *** get a job?
Now for any alts I have three toons to run anything I want and can just farm up everything else and still have a ton of zen and AD left.
Technically, you did pay.... Albeit for the founders pack but to say that you haven't spent a dime on the game is incorrect...
lf $10-$15 a month optional sub that lets me skip the bull****.
I don't play Call of Duty, sorry. I also don't find $10 that bad for a bag. Sorry if you don't agree but I'm not going to not buy stuff just because you think it's overpriced. If it's such a terrible company perhaps you should play a different game? Not sure the negative hostile attitude is what the community needs.
During the beta weekends I didn't have the founders pack, so... The point was that you could level just fine without spending hundred of dollars or whatever the OP was talking about. I stand by that.
Paranoia can be treated, you know.
Do you know how rich people get rich? And more importantly, do you know how rich people STAY rich?
Rich people stay rich by not wasting their money on purchases that don't provide value for money. That's why you so often hear of lottery winners going broke; if you give someone a tonne of money with no experience, they go out and spend it all.
Not buying things that don't provide value for money is as good for you as it is for everyone else; nothing drops prices faster than a lack of sales. Unfortunately, people like yourselves are in it for the instant gratification, and see value for money as a result of wunderlust over pixels.
I have spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on microtransactions, and been subscribed to multiple subscription based mmos for a little over 10 years. I have no issue spending money on games and on micro-transactions. I do have an issue with throwing money at undeserving products (and by that, I mean products that are over-priced for their value). That doesn't make me cheap, it makes me conscientious. The negative hostile attitude is a result of the circumstances of the game, not visa versa. Fix the prices, you fix the attitude.
Ah, that's a completely another story, they will never allege that, ever...
Yeah I'm a big fan of freemiums myself. Why more companies don't adopt that plan is genuinely beyond me (as in, I'd like to see reasons why- maybe 15 a month from more people isn't good enough and might take away the incentive for the whales to pay through the nose?)
I threw down a bit of money for AD to make my QoL easier. I don't know if it'll last the month but we shall see!
Its not paranoia, its normal way to do business. Stock markets in real life are speculated on daily basis.
Perfect World has an ethical obligation (for the sake of the poor) and also a longterm financial self-interest (because of an enthusiasti gaming culture) to strike a balance between “gaming fairness” and “paying customers”.
No one thinks this balance is easy to achieve. But it is important.
And thats solution? If you want to avoid P2W then you put on cash shop only "cosmetic" items and thats it. Prices has nothing to do with it.
Which part? Because one thing they said was "I have dumped hundred of dollars into this game... just to get the items my characters need to level up properly" which is completely false. Well not that they may have spent money but that you have to dump any money into the game to 'level up properly'.
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... the only real use for the cash shop is vanity items mostly, dye's for cloths, ...
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Wait. I feel strongly that socalled "vanity" items, like customizing physical appearance of the avatar, are important for free-to-play too.
You know. I lived in Boston for roughly two years. One of the most amazing things about this city is, it is difficult to tell the difference between the extreme rich and the extreme poor. The extreme rich tend to be very modest in their choice of clothes, while the extreme poor tend to be well cared for.
There is something beautiful in this citys ethic.
Unless you have any sort of proof of this, I suggest you keep this kind of nonsense to yourself, lest you make yourself look like a complete fool.
Did i say i know for sure? No, so call names someone else.
You're throwing an accusation around. If you have zero evidence to back accusations up with, you're much better off keeping them to yourself. Fact of life.
Why would they? The exchange rates are behaving exactly like you would expect. During the headstart, when all founders had a lot of ADs, the rate was at its highest possible point, 500:1. I bought 15M at that rate, which cost 30,000 Zen. Then the free players joined and the exchange rate started to drop. Today, it is at 380:1, so if I exchanged my 15M back to Zen, I would get 39,500 Zen. If the other PWE games are an indicator (the ones using a similar system), then we will see 150:1 in some time. In that case, my 15M AD would equal 100,000 Zen.
If PWE/Cryptic messed with the rates, it would probably stay near the maximum because the lower the rate drops, the higher the cash store value of the free ADs you get in the game. At 500:1, 24k AD are only worth 48 Zen ($0.48). At 150:1, the same 24k are worth 160 Zen ($1.60) and thus buy you more stuff from the cash store (meaning you will spend less actual dollars to get what you want).
But the rates are dropping, so I don't see evidence for any interring from their end.
Noted and agree. I have not spent a penny on the game as of yet, and not really needed tbh... So far, I haven't got to a place in the game where I've stopped and thought, hang on... I can't continue without paying out money. If that was the case I think I would stop playing the game.... :P The only time I can see myself spending money is if I wanted to get the Guardian founder pack for the ingame items and AD, but saying that because there is no VIP access like with the hero founders pack (€55 is still quite alot to pay) I'm still on the edge whether to get it or not
Dye packs, vanity gear, special mount, companions etc. And that my friends gets expensive.
And three currencies for the game is to much.
I love this game and will spend money on it, but I would be more inclined to spend if I thought I was getting more of a value. CRYPTIC pay attention...give a little more value for our money and you can milk us for years. Otherwise I foresee things droping off in the next 8 months. The US economy is not what it use to be and that disposable income just isn't there.