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<<SPOILER>> Regarding Mystra and Neverwinter
Since Mystra has been semi-revived around 1480ish DR (right? My DM told me, hope he wasn't fooling me), would this be included in Neverwinter?
If I understand correctly Neverwinter is based around 1478-79ish. So the timezone certainly should be inside the sphere of expansion.
Would her folio be revived as a deity too? Would she be able to grant old spells?
Or is that part of story cannot be included due to licensing issues?
If I understand correctly Neverwinter is based around 1478-79ish. So the timezone certainly should be inside the sphere of expansion.
Would her folio be revived as a deity too? Would she be able to grant old spells?
Or is that part of story cannot be included due to licensing issues?
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In the Year of the Ageless One, a voice Storm Silverhand recognized as Mystra's was heard through the telepathic link shared by all Chosen of Mystra, asking for Elminster.[6] Elminster and Storm encountered what was left of Mystra in a cave in Cormyr. Mystra instructed Elminster to recruit new Chosen and to preserve and strengthen the Art. Later, after Elminster and Storm restored the Simbul's mind, she hinted that Mystra might be brought back through Blueflame items.[7]
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Yes, that was what I was told that she was revived in 1480 DR but is in a very weak state. As the years are close by(Rohini unviels herself in 1479DR), I wonder if we would have a branch of that story of Mystra or encounter Elminister somewhere later in story who has resurrected Mystra and is trying to find stuff to give her back some power....
Mystra's revival was written about in FR novels by Ed Greenwood, but it was not canonized in the 4E gaming campaign that started years earlier than that novel series in 2008. The reason I make this distinction is the events that lead up to her...revival for a lack of a better word, will be further spelled out by him and others in the Sundering series that will eventually lead to the D&D NEXT campaign. So, sadly, we will not see a cannon revival acknowledgment by those who must get permission from WOTC (including this game at this time using 4E rules,) but any cannon items that reference the gods can reference Mystra for D&D NEXT.
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To become someone who can control all magic like before, she would either have to recreate the weave completely all again to seal most of the other magic - or she will have to live as 'just another magic giving' deity. I don't think she will be able to recreate weave - there will be too much opposition with people saying if she dies spellplague will come again. To even have a chance to create weave she will have to first prove that her death did not cause spellplague(which probably seems to be the case).
One thing is certain - she will not become powerful overnight this time and might have to start as a lesser god or exarch first. But only domains where she can go are Oghama, Selune, Corellon and Torm's. They are her only friends with power enough to face Shar+Lolth...maybe not Oghama. Corellon won't risk her in his realms probably because he likes beauty of his home too much and would not like to risk the conflict. And he will probably ask Selune anyways to take her. Or perhaps Torm will protect her for the sake of Tyr's oath and all. Selune is already at odds with Shar and Lolth and wants to have her ally back, but if Mystra comes to the moon she will fawn over her because she still thinks of her as a spoiled(but good) child. Maybe going to Torm will be best for her and living among metallic dragons of Bahamut! (Or she can pull that excalibur from the stone in that realm and suddenly become strong using plot armor which would be boring).
The two combined magics of the entire Realmspace then formed into the sentient Mystryl. So, straight from source material, Mystryl is magic. Just the "Mystryl" and "Mystra" we know as personalities or gods are the sentient manifestations of Magic. This would explain why Ao fears her, for she is unlike any other gods, save for the first two, Selune and Shar. She is, in essence like Selune and Shar, made up of the very origins of what makes the entire Realmspace that Ao created.
Mystryl snapped back after Karsus' Avatar quite quickly, recreating the Weave instantly upon her self-reincarnation. So, as soon and she becomes sentient enough to control herself once again and not be in a primordial existence, I am sure she will be able to recreate the Weave quite effortlessly.
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But if they want to go back, they can retcon again saying, that people had not realized that the magic they were exploiting which was gone and was coming from dead spirit of Mystra [i.e. Arcane source was Mystra] - but that would certainly mean that they made a mistake and are going back. [i.e. completely abandoning 4e lore]. However if they retcon arcane source, questions will arise on psion and shadow source too. I wouldn't count this possibility out, but it does seem less probable to me.
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As a god once said, "The return of the Harlot". [I hope that god does not returns though.]
Being chaotic I think she is much more inclined to fun than resp....
*People in suits come running to him*
*Not S&P, who are they?*
*whispered to*
What? No Chaotic good alignment now??? Moneygrab, oversimplified blah blah blah
*Casts summon rules lawyers*
We hereby have documentation released from NDA to show all alignments are hereby restored in NEXT, and Cryptic S&P are to cease and desist!
*A bright white light issues forth from the documents from the activation words "cease and desist" causing the S&P zombies to scream in agony one final nooooooo before being obliterated.*
If she does, and others also return - like Shadrakul and Finder(the bard), it will become very overpowered place in the Astral Sea. I am guessing Tymora will be promoted to a greater goddess soon too.
Shar has very powerful people with her too - Zehir and Sseth for example.
*turns oracle switch on*
I sense an epic war between Shar and Selune is in the future with Lolth trying to be an oppurtunist, Corellon kept busy by Grummsh, Bane keeping Torm busy with Tiamat-Bahamut angle in that war.
Azuth has already been absorbed by Asmodeus.
He didn't took any folios but I think they were rearranged and shuffled by Ao later. So Knowledge and spells I think are with Oghma (not very sure on it though), Magic was distributed among Selune, Corellon and Sseth...
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Think of Selune - even being the oldest goddess she had to survive by hiding and slowly gaining allies and powers in earlier editions - slowly and steadily she has become greater goddess with her own realm now.
I almost squealed with glee like a little school girl when I read Elminster Enraged.
Mystra and the weave are what drew me to the Forgotten Realms books. I died a little inside when Mystra was murdered and the Spellplague hit.
- Drizzt Do'Urden
― R.A. Salvatore
Greenwood to the rescue, he decided to fix that tidbit for them and bring her back.
Which old graveyard did you find it?
In any case, this mage is very pleased his Goddess shall be returning to full conciousness. Yeah yeah, I know you all "claim" she died, that's just not possible for the type of being she is - lest by the hand of Ao, even if he could destroy her. One would need to destroy both light and dark magic as well as Selune and Shar to destroy the being and essense that is Mystryl, or whatever name she takes.
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