Howdy! It has been a while,
in MMO Time, since the new forums were implemented to the base of a forum system that we have now. I am wondering when we can expect to see some majorly needed updates to the forum.
A few things, off the top of my head, that need some love are:
- Proper Coding
(bullets, ALT 3335, show as question marks for example and setting a list with the editor does nothing more than line breaks in appearance).
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A functional Dev Tracker! (Done, yay! Thanks!!!)
- Ability to edit our avatars.
- Ability to maintain, edit and view forum user profiles instead of being redirects to Core.
- Replacement of the Bear Smileys with smileys related to D&D or at least the common ones. These bears, in my opinion, are just not right - at all.
- A link
(or way to quickly navigate) to the base forum from the bottom of a thread, like we have at the top of a thread
(Eg. Neverwinter > Information and Discussion > Neverwinter Discussion).
Please feel free to add your own opinions and suggestions of the current technical/aesthetic state of these forums and what you would like to see done to help improve them.
Oh yeah, I'd love to see the Dev Tracker functional again.
Thank you for your time!
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Also, don't expect separate forum profiles. They went to all the trouble of creating Core for that exat reason...
What do you mean by my opinion with dot dot dot dot? The Dev Tracker doesn't even list anything. It's not a matter of opinion with the Dev Tracker working, it is a matter that it just is not functional at all for what it is meant to do. All a dev tracker is meant to do is to display a list of developer posts and replies. There's really no room for an opinion of it working or not. It either works or it doesn't and in our case here, it doesn't work.
Go here: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/forumdisplay.php?f=685
Click the link to Dev Tracker and see for yourself.
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That is too bad. I wouldn't mind the Core if I were able to set privacy settings on each individual item instead of only having 3 clumped groups, dictated to me. I'd like to have a public "profile" that lists common things like "about," "interests," "motto," etc but without having to share things like all my PWE characters and what they're doing. The Core's set up of pre-defined sharing settings is just not my cup of tea.
Highest Privacy Setting
Viewing Profile: Friends Only
Viewing My Information: Friends Only
Sending Messages: Friends Only
Writing Comments: Friends Only
Seeing Photos: Friends Only
PWE Game Characters: Friends Only
Showing Friend list: Everyone
Standard Privacy Setting
Viewing Profile: Everyone
Viewing My Information: Friends Only
Sending Messages: Friends Only
Writing Comments: Friends Only
Seeing Photos: Friends Only (Everyone can see Profile photo)
PWE Game Characters: Everyone
Showing Friend list:Everyone
Open Privacy Setting
Viewing Profile: Everyone
Viewing My Information: Everyone
Sending Messages: Everyone
Writing Comments: Everyone
Seeing Photos: Everyone
PWE Game Characters: Everyone
Showing Friend list: Everyone
That's all you can choose from is those three, pre-defined, privacy settings. If each item were able to be set individually, I would probably have no cause for complaint.
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Well... that is a needless question...
Why would anyone not want a working dev tracker asap b:puzzled
http://forums.champions-online.com/search.php?searchid=3586955
So its high time they brought back dev tracker for NW too.
Sorry should have had a joke emoticon, since you mentioned it multiple times in your OP. I know you want it as do we.
I highly doubt that that their Web Designers are also their Game Developers. Especially considering that Cryptic is now a part of Perfect World Entertainment.
Awesome news! Thank you for sharing this, indeed!
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As nobody seems to remember, more so truthseeker(apparently), here is the actual post:
After that also they said about it once and after that there has not been any new word on it yet.
This is just it. Some people consider the forums an afterthought, and others consider it an integral part of their gaming, a tool that's used everyday to learn about the game from other perspectives, or to educate others from their own experiences. To just blow off this website like its a headache for them to "maintain", is a blow to many of us who seek a valuable resource that's pleasant to look at, functional, and what should be - a reliable extension of the game itself.
Its obvious the site is an oversight. Hopefully this changes as we get closer to game time.
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Finding the balance is difficult, but I can say this: just because something is "new" does not mean you ignore the "old." Because Twitter, Facebook and other social media sites are trending now, does not mean you neglect the forum, but neither do you think it's the only priority either.
All this written, the forum does appear to have been more neglected post PWE merge, and the minimal reactions since do not help its appearance. However, some community employees have been great with their recent and consistent posting, even during weekends and later hours (such as our favorite hive-mind-thinking melanderi....get it, because of the latin insect name?)
But what is more important at this time of this posting, is it's been about a week since E3's conclusion, and we're all wondering what will be actually released in regards to Neverwinter information, no matter where and how it is released. I requested something mentioning the status within two weeks of E3's conclusion, so I do hope at least we'll get some form of status update (if not an actual release of new information.)
So, web update good, but not the only medium, but shouldn't be neglected, and game information comes first but information should be ongoing after the first press release should summarize all that.
Eh, while I hope for some website update - I think the real problem lies in the marketing. It's pretty bad, IMHO. Focused on big gaming events that happen from time to time. But the worst thing is something different - Stormshade is the only PR for all Cryptic games.
He has several forums to take care of and has to be active at all of them. I mean, this is seriously too much for one person to handle.
Well, there are multiple people handling this, but outside of interviews, yes, he is the only often seen "public face" for NWO marketing. Which is why they really need to make him exclusive to NWO or hire somebody who focuses only on NWO (and if the former hire some other people to take care of the projects he did.)
If the game were out (or even humming along well into beta) I'd completely agree with you. At present it's not. From my perspective they appear to be a package deal. There are people in this very thread that have commented on how limited the community's activity is without more game information for us to discuss, so as such it seems a little off kilter to get amped up about one without the other to support it.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a supercrazyawesome forum but let's be honest here, we're certainly not struggling without all that (we're having this very community discussion after all!).
When the beta comes out, then we'll really have a need for community support!
We do struggle. Many old fans left, many stay silent and simply read as there's not much to discuss. The discussions are usually done by the same ppl.
All those who stay silent will be extinct with the werewolf attack. So speak up and accumulate some silver just in case...
Well, ofc there is not enough to discuss. That's exactly what is to be expected from a game forum when the game in question is still not even in Beta. And that is your reason why there are not many people posting - there are not enough relevant topics to support more than a handful of people discussing at any given time. We can't discuss about the game mechanics, or technical stuff, or classes etc, and neither can we give any meaningful suggestions at this point. We can only make pointless off-topic/speculation threads, which get old fast. Hell, right now we're talking about how there is nothing to talk about...
And sure, many people from the old forums do not post here anymore, but the number of new people that do outnumbers that. Still, at any rate: there just isn't enough to talk about. The very reason that these forums were created for quite simply does not exist yet, apart from the Alpha version, which nobody can put their hands on and as such might as well not exist at all for discussion purposes... The number of posts per day does not even reach a third digit, and even that is already more than there really needs to be at this point, based on what we have on our hands and can discuss about - so, I fail to see where it is that the forum is holding anyone back...
It would be ready to ship IF it was a SP/co-op game. But it's not, because when Atari sold Cryptic over to PWE they decided to go with Cryptic's original plans with NW, ie make it an MMO. And to make a game an MMO one needs a significant amount of extra time compaired to sp games, because the amount of polishing that has to go into netcode, balancing and long-term playability can't even compaire...
It isn't the same game anymore, and thus it isn't the same community anymore. The people that are excited about an upcoming co-op/sp game and those excited for an upcoming mmo are majorly different.
And the company is obliged to present us a good game, not tend to a community of a game that does not even exist yet, and as such does not have more than a dozen active members anyway...
They have already shared all the info you need to know at these stage: races, classes, combat system, setting, gameplay footage... there is not much more they could do without having to release the whole actual game...
They haven't shared anything significant for the last half a year - most of it was already known or was a minor information.
It is holding me back
Unleash the Dragons!!!
... and maybe the dungeons.
And regarding that the game does not exist... it is dungeon and dragons!!! It is not something wimpy... It is D&D and that too Forgotten Realms and that too Neverwinter...
It is thus best of best of best. And if it doesn't get enough posts as it is, it would surprise me (as it does). I mean it would be understandable if it was eberron - that place is CURSES!!!. But forgotten realms is Awesome!
And seriously Qumi... come on the wiki. Help with the lore. Why are you not there? That is a crime.
Most lore can be found on: http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Yeah ofc, RL. Fortunately I only have two meetings today and I can peek and edit every then and now.
And thanks I didn't know there was a FR wiki too... but the info esp on classes seems 3e-ish.
My friend who talked to the devs at PWE was told in most MMO's you know where every mob every treasure and how the story ends six to eight months before launch and that they weren't going that route. They did say that once the game launches that they would be just as active as they currently are in STO and CO.
We will just have to see.
BTW, can you explain your banner? I tried the url and it linked to an unregistered godaddy.com site.
As to the original post's request, I would be happy for all those things you listed, but for the time being I'm not missing them yet.