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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    dmcewen said:

    Looking at just the numbers, I don't think orcus set will outperform the dex belt + company duelist cloak for trapper or combat. Maybe if the fix the orcus set to work with all of the powers that combat Hrs use but we all know that isn't going to happen.

    which powers are you talking about?
  • dmcewendmcewen Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    Gushing wounds, careful attack, and fox's cunning have been confirmed to not work with orcus set. I'm sure there is more.
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  • wizardlvl80#5963 wizardlvl80 Member Posts: 519 Arc User
    First of all, Orcus doesn't work with CA and company cloak will. Even now the difference between Orcus set and Dex belt is small and situational. With this cloak incoming I guess it will be a massive boost. But I don't think we actually need it. We do pretty good damage already and being more powerful will make people calling for nerfs for HR. I already can't stans the moanin of how this class is too powerful.
  • dmcewendmcewen Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    @wizardlvl80#5963 I completely agree. High end ranger have a lot of damage potential if played correctly and a nerf would primarily affect the low end ranger that struggle to do damage.
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  • jonkocajonkoca Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,586 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    Aye, with the dex belt and combat pf at 4k-ish, if the gwf isn't entirely bis, I'm keeping up and going past depending on the content and how well I'm playing. And there are better HRs than me knocking around.

    Apparently they're masterworks anyway, which means a gazzilion AD so lol, back to orcus again.
    Post edited by jonkoca on
    No idea what my toon is now.
  • issssshoisssssho Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 105 Arc User
    Apparently, we were 'fixed' in class balancing not so long ago, so for some time we are safe the way we are. Given all bugs I found so far (~107) there are still more negative ones that actually decrease our damage. However equipment like this will contribute on making even higher gap in damage and I can hardly find that intentional given current multiclassial balance.
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  • thefiresidecatthefiresidecat Member Posts: 4,486 Arc User
    i didn't see them in collections in masterworks. I havent' been able to find the new cloaks ANYWHERE.. are they masterworks? I kind of hate masterworks lol. they made the bar too high. clothing items should not be MILLIONS lol.
  • davidagaldodavidagaldo Member Posts: 383 Arc User
    I don't know why they would appear in masterworks, still on the test server for a future mod.
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  • thefiresidecatthefiresidecat Member Posts: 4,486 Arc User
    ohhh I thought it was part of this mod
  • davidagaldodavidagaldo Member Posts: 383 Arc User
    Naw, I wish. I want that dex cloak! I still have all my resources and will dump it on Fox.
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  • dmcewendmcewen Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    The cloak is bought with guild marks according to @rjc9000.
    Guild: Ruthless
    Character: Vendetta
  • rjc9000rjc9000 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,405 Arc User
    I was off by give or take 500 guild marks. Or, the preview SH (Forsaken Rebels preview) I was in had a market discount.

    Either way, it wont cost that many guild marks to buy.



  • dmcewendmcewen Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    Thank you for the screenshot @rjc9000
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  • jonkocajonkoca Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,586 Arc User
    I really hope so, because I finally refined the orcus set on Friday (kept the dex belt though thank god) and have been massively underwhelmed. So will buy the dex/wis neck asap, and chuck both the orcus neck and belt into it.
    No idea what my toon is now.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    you all say the orcus set is bugged with many HR powers: while this may be true i invite you to not trust bug reports without evidence. When i report a bug there are always proofs...the bug thread in the wild is really lacking of evidences.

    to name few examples: i would like to know how orcus set not working with gushing wounds/carefull attack was tested.
    or how seeker's vengeance not working with melee powers.
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  • zomak#4611 zomak Member Posts: 223 Arc User
    What level marketplace do you need to buy them?
  • rjc9000rjc9000 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,405 Arc User
    I couldn't tell what rank market you need for the gear. However, given that it's related to the Guild Armor (Company Armor), I would assume you only need a lowly market 2 to access the Company cloaks/belts.

    Also, before everyone rides the "OMG Duelist cloak is amazing 1337" train, I just realized the Company Executioner Cloak gives DEX/CHA and Recovery instead of Deflect.



    I suck at HRs and am too lazy to look it up what CHA does for HRs, but I'm sure you guys will figure out what the extra CHA is useful for.

  • dmcewendmcewen Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    Charisma gives 1% companion stat bonus and 1% combat advantage damage.

    From what I understand- At 100% crit chance with 100% uptime on CA, 1% CA damage= 1% crit severity. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not really sure if CA damage from ability scores works any different.
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  • issssshoisssssho Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 105 Arc User
    As trapper I find duelist better since recovery is useless with my build while deflect gives some power via insignia bonus - and some defensive addition about which I'm not too thrilled about honestly. As combat or archery however I would consider using company executioner if I would decide not to go with Orcus set.
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  • jaegernljaegernl Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 455 Arc User
    rayrdan said:

    you all say the orcus set is bugged with many HR powers: while this may be true i invite you to not trust bug reports without evidence. When i report a bug there are always proofs...the bug thread in the wild is really lacking of evidences.

    to name few examples: i would like to know how orcus set not working with gushing wounds/carefull attack was tested.
    or how seeker's vengeance not working with melee powers.

    With the fixed weapon damage on Preview all of those are stupidly easy to test, now. It literally takes a minute to check out for yourself.
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  • davidagaldodavidagaldo Member Posts: 383 Arc User
    I don't need the Recovery, always kept a decent amount. I will go for the Deflect, I could use more but not dependent of it.

    For PvP, I am high power, recovery, then Crit using AotF and CR. With PG working properly, I had great results this past weekend. Almost went back to Combat but it is boring how fast toons melt.
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  • thefiresidecatthefiresidecat Member Posts: 4,486 Arc User
    rjc9000 said:

    I was off by give or take 500 guild marks. Or, the preview SH (Forsaken Rebels preview) I was in had a market discount.

    Either way, it wont cost that many guild marks to buy.


    noice!
  • thefiresidecatthefiresidecat Member Posts: 4,486 Arc User
    I really really CANNOT wait for the next mod to drop. lol.
  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    +6 Dexterity & +2 Charisma/+2 Wisdom with the Dex-belt & Company cloak, feels good to be a HR and not have to worry about set bonus! :D
  • zomak#4611 zomak Member Posts: 223 Arc User
    rjc9000 said:

    I couldn't tell what rank market you need for the gear. However, given that it's related to the Guild Armor (Company Armor), I would assume you only need a lowly market 2 to access the Company cloaks/belts

    I can now confirm that this is indeed the case. I was able to purchase it with only a level 2 marketplace. Sitting on +5 dexterity now! (I only have a purple dex belt for the moment). Can't wait to see what this does for my damage.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    got the dex belt and the new cloak, new boots and head piece but im probably going to wait the next 2x to gain back what i can from the orcus set
  • zomak#4611 zomak Member Posts: 223 Arc User
    > @rayrdan said:
    > got the dex belt and the new cloak, new boots and head piece but im probably going to wait the next 2x to gain back what i can from the orcus set

    What boots and head piece are you talking about?
  • jonkocajonkoca Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,586 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    I'd like a new head too, is whatever it is you have better power-wise than jarl's gaze..? I'm at the point where now I'm just a huge power-stacking monster.
    No idea what my toon is now.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited May 2017

    > @rayrdan said:

    > got the dex belt and the new cloak, new boots and head piece but im probably going to wait the next 2x to gain back what i can from the orcus set



    What boots and head piece are you talking about?

    the ones from mystrious mercant, cant remember the names...
    the boots that gives you defense as bonus (power/crit/defense) and the head piece with 2k power as bonus.
    i run nothing else than cn and ndemo so jarl's gaze is out of reach
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