with us being an hour away and still no patch notes I am getting worried
There are more than BIS players in this game RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ???? FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
Those are from preview and in the past have not been the same as the live mod patch notes
There are more than BIS players in this game RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ???? FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
more poor form from those whose task it is to keep everyone informed.
Maybe they want to make sure nothing goes wrong before posting the notes? Hmmm? Because its not like the riff-raff here would shoot their mouths off if they posted notes, and had to delay for some reason....
more poor form from those whose task it is to keep everyone informed.
Eh, I don't know about you, but I know how exceptionally overbusy and understaffed companies like this can get. I would rather have them overcompensate on trying to make sure they get everything right on the actual update and be a bit late with the patch notes than have them devoting resources to keeping the natives updated while they twiddle their thumbs waiting for the server to come back up.
But then again, if they were five minutes late on getting the server back up but they go the patch notes up two days ago, something tells me you'd be in here saying "Disgraceful! Unprofessional! Unacceptable! I'm going to the Better Business Bureau!" Relax, enjoy the time off from your second job, and get some chores done while you're waiting. We'll know what's in this patch soon enough.
more poor form from those whose task it is to keep everyone informed.
Maybe they want to make sure nothing goes wrong before posting the notes? Hmmm? Because its not like the riff-raff here would shoot their mouths off if they posted notes, and had to delay for some reason....
I understand what you are saying but if they are still making changes or don't know what was changed at this late stage of the game we have something to stress about. They could also be adding something they don't want us to know till the last possible moment (that can be good or bad).
I just think in my opinion that this is really bad form. I can't remember the last mod that was release with no patch notes ... releasing it after the mod update start (it already has) does not count
There are more than BIS players in this game RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ???? FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
If 'they' had changes to 'hide', they could put them out now. More than likely, they are running around making sure things WORK, or perhaps spellchecking the release notes for the extremely fun people with nothing better to do than point out spelling/grammar errors in release notes.
You'd think on a patch day we'd see our community manager speak to the community. Either by patch notes or even a thread telling us what to expect here today... Sure the red message from the launcher says it'll be down for 4 hours but when I see that the first thing I do is head to the forums to see what's up! I suspect others do the same. It's when we have nothing to read, no information posted that we start looking for the pitch forks lol
If 'they' had changes to 'hide', they could put them out now. More than likely, they are running around making sure things WORK, or perhaps spellchecking the release notes for the extremely fun people with nothing better to do than point out spelling/grammar errors in release notes.
Being a developer. I know they should have finalized the patch a week ago(at least). having a community manager that does not even bother to log on to one of the official mediums of communication for a prolonged period is not very professional.
In short they should know what is changing. they should have press releases ready and probably have it published with a timed release on it. They should talk or provide feedback(patch notes) to their customers and keep them informed .
EDIT : Releasing patch notes after the patch is done only cause customers to not use their product and read the notes then. or not read the notes and use the product. They should release it in a timely fashion not after the patch is done. It appears that the community manager could not be bothered to communicate with the companies clients
There are more than BIS players in this game RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ???? FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
If 'they' had changes to 'hide', they could put them out now. More than likely, they are running around making sure things WORK, or perhaps spellchecking the release notes for the extremely fun people with nothing better to do than point out spelling/grammar errors in release notes.
Being a developer. I know they should have finalized the patch a week ago(at least). having a community manager that does not even bother to log on to one of the official mediums of communication for a prolonged period is not very professional.
In short they should know what is changing. they should have press releases ready and probably have it published with a timed release on it. They should talk or provide feedback(patch notes) to their customers and keep them informed .
EDIT : Releasing patch notes after the patch is done only cause customers to not use their product and read the notes then. or not read the notes and use the product. They should release it in a timely fashion not after the patch is done. It appears that the community manager could not be bothered to communicate with the companies clients
Sure, if they have manpower spilling out of their HAMSTER, which they likely do not.
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greywyndMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 7,154Arc User
You'd think on a patch day we'd see our community manager speak to the community. Either by patch notes or even a thread telling us what to expect here today... Sure the red message from the launcher says it'll be down for 4 hours but when I see that the first thing I do is head to the forums to see what's up! I suspect others do the same. It's when we have nothing to read, no information posted that we start looking for the pitch forks lol
6 hours, actually.
I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
So players are able to provide a link for the patch notes, but not the CM? Well, overworked and understuffed might be true, but as long as the CMs dont do double shifts as system designer, this is pretty much, what she should do on release day, imo.
If 'they' had changes to 'hide', they could put them out now. More than likely, they are running around making sure things WORK, or perhaps spellchecking the release notes for the extremely fun people with nothing better to do than point out spelling/grammar errors in release notes.
Being a developer. I know they should have finalized the patch a week ago(at least). having a community manager that does not even bother to log on to one of the official mediums of communication for a prolonged period is not very professional.
In short they should know what is changing. they should have press releases ready and probably have it published with a timed release on it. They should talk or provide feedback(patch notes) to their customers and keep them informed .
EDIT : Releasing patch notes after the patch is done only cause customers to not use their product and read the notes then. or not read the notes and use the product. They should release it in a timely fashion not after the patch is done. It appears that the community manager could not be bothered to communicate with the companies clients
Sure, if they have manpower spilling out of their HAMSTER, which they likely do not.
You seem to insinuate that they have no contingency planning which would explain their inconsistency.
There are more than BIS players in this game RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ???? FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
"Rings introduced by the Underdark expansion, received from Demonic Heroic Encounters, no longer apply their bonuses to companions or the player when equipped by companions."
About bloody time! Maybe, finally, bonding runes won't be arguably the most important factor in player power in the late game. I feel a bit bad for the GS 2500 guys with rank 12 bonding and max level pet enchants on their multiple rings of brutality +5 but, eh, it's not like we couldn't see this coming. I guess the days of easy 200K+ power are over.
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therealprotexMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 526Arc User
"Rings introduced by the Underdark expansion, received from Demonic Heroic Encounters, no longer apply their bonuses to companions or the player when equipped by companions."
About bloody time! Maybe, finally, bonding runes won't be arguably the most important factor in player power in the late game. I feel a bit bad for the GS 2500 guys with rank 12 bonding and max level pet enchants on their multiple rings of brutality +5 but, eh, it's not like we couldn't see this coming. I guess the days of easy 200K+ power are over.
Hmm, not sure about that. If I am not mistaken, the statement could mean that only those rings from the demonic HEs are affacted. But afaik the +5 (and +4?) rings can not be achieved by demonic HEs, can they?
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,423Arc User
"Rings introduced by the Underdark expansion, received from Demonic Heroic Encounters, no longer apply their bonuses to companions or the player when equipped by companions."
About bloody time! Maybe, finally, bonding runes won't be arguably the most important factor in player power in the late game. I feel a bit bad for the GS 2500 guys with rank 12 bonding and max level pet enchants on their multiple rings of brutality +5 but, eh, it's not like we couldn't see this coming. I guess the days of easy 200K+ power are over.
Hmm, not sure about that. If I am not mistaken, the statement could mean that only those rings from the demonic HEs are affacted. But afaik the +5 (and +4?) rings can not be achieved by demonic HEs, can they?
Literally speaking, you are right. However, it would be very dumb if they did exactly like that. They need extra code to separate +1,+2 to +3,+4,+5. And, +1,+2 are not exactly people would like to use. Hence, I expect all those rings will not give companion bonus and their statement was improperly written instead.
EDIT: CMs said all underdark rings is what they "expected" no longer apply their bonuses to companions in their live stream.
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,423Arc User
By the way, the CMs are doing a live stream.
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RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ????
FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base
Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
these were updated on the 18th
not sure how you could of missed them?
RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ????
FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base
Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
maybe I should of added , these look like the closest thing to patch notes we are going to get atm.
I wonder how they can upload a patch and not be able to tell us, what will be uploaded.
But then again, if they were five minutes late on getting the server back up but they go the patch notes up two days ago, something tells me you'd be in here saying "Disgraceful! Unprofessional! Unacceptable! I'm going to the Better Business Bureau!" Relax, enjoy the time off from your second job, and get some chores done while you're waiting. We'll know what's in this patch soon enough.
I just think in my opinion that this is really bad form. I can't remember the last mod that was release with no patch notes ... releasing it after the mod update start (it already has) does not count
RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ????
FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base
Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
Patch notes. Enjoy.
In short they should know what is changing. they should have press releases ready and probably have it published with a timed release on it. They should talk or provide feedback(patch notes) to their customers and keep them informed .
EDIT : Releasing patch notes after the patch is done only cause customers to not use their product and read the notes then. or not read the notes and use the product. They should release it in a timely fashion not after the patch is done. It appears that the community manager could not be bothered to communicate with the companies clients
RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ????
FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base
Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ????
FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base
Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
About bloody time! Maybe, finally, bonding runes won't be arguably the most important factor in player power in the late game. I feel a bit bad for the GS 2500 guys with rank 12 bonding and max level pet enchants on their multiple rings of brutality +5 but, eh, it's not like we couldn't see this coming. I guess the days of easy 200K+ power are over.
EDIT: CMs said all underdark rings is what they "expected" no longer apply their bonuses to companions in their live stream.