Having 13 characters and being in LGPG diqualify you as a "casual" lol
Having 13 characters has nothing to do with being casual or not. Plenty of people have at least 1 of each character just so they can play each one at some point. That would be at least 8 characters. Some have more just to play with different sets of friends or helping others out, but they don't play much. So I can not back the logic of simply having more characters leading to being not a 'casual'.
As for being part of LGPG, once again, nothing to do with being casual or not. Some people in the guild barely play this game right now and only do enough to help some and keep their spot in the guild. There are people in all of the 'big' guilds that don't even do much except professions and AH for a bit when they actually do get on. The generalizations you make are not sound because I know otherwise.
Now, whether or not you consider yourself casual or hardcore, that's on you. I will admit I have times where I go hardcore, but plenty of times I have barely played or when playing, playing very casually.
There is no 'right' way to play or treat the game. Some people are casual, some are hardcore - neither is right or good, it's just people.
Stop judging others, honestly. What works for you is not necessarily right for others.
Guides may or may not fit your schedule or play style - it doesn't really matter.
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Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
So you started playing in mod4 and you are still playing now yet claim to be casual, yet if someone has over 10 char slots (and there have been 2 90% off sales where you could spend less than 1m and have over 15 char slots). Now you also say you didn't learn how to earn AD until December so what did you do up until then? Buy zen with w credit card lol?...
You said it yourself you're new to the mmo genre and have had little to no idea on how to efficiently progress and thats where you fell off while other "hardcore" players saw tons of investment oppertunity which were in many cases outlined by PC players all up and down their section of this exact same forum.
Now you say you feel weak compared to where you "should" be. Well that again is on you. You played a GF, by the sounds of it solo, and you struggled. Its a support class its meant to be played with other higher dps classes in 95% of cases. So when you decided to switch mains for an easier time playing, you also reset your progress and essentially started over. All he advantage and profit you should have saved from mod4/5 ended up being nonexistent for you so now you are struggling to get by on basic things.
Unfortunately these are all things you brought upon yourself by not researching, joining a guild sooner that was helpful, or by switching classes.
If you had stuck to your GF, saved a few pieces of mod5 gear to sell now, and joined a strong guild early on to learn how to be successful in NW without paying $, you would probably have had a more enjoyable experience.
LGPG Leader Indy - XB1 & PS4 - GF xeV Indy - PS4 - TR Nde - XB1 - HR GT: its indy time PSN: itsindytime Twitch: indygoinlive The Kanye West of Neverwinter
Seriously deluded my friend, also stop saying we we we we us us us... you do not speak on behalf of us Console Gamers and you certainly don't know what "we" want out of a video game.
I play this game SPECIFICALLY because of the grind, no grind = bored = playing something else.
You do not know what most people want out of a game since what you like is the minority.
I never once said I knew what most people want in a game, I have never claimed that, you quite literally just made up words that I did not say.
Main - Rydia (HR70) - Xbox One Player only Alts : Storm (SW70), Edge (TR70), AD Farm (CW70), Grunt (GF70), Rosa (DC70), AD AD AD (GWF70), Your Mum (OP70)
I do believe extra characters help. After this past 2x experience.... I have "10" lvl 70 toons. 7 of these toons are DPS class that can run dailies quickly. So I can gather the materials to upgrade my main.
Everyone needs to remember to have fun n relax. I've seen some of my friends IL slowly increase n others jump overnight. They play at there own pace n have fun.
That's true, it took me absolutely ages to reach a level where I could earn easily and gear up properly. I don't mind at all, I've learned a lot in the process - a lot of what I've learned has come from these forums & reading the opinions, feedback and guides of successful players here.
Creating a new character is much simpler for me these days. Partly through my other characters supplying AD but more importantly because I now know where to focus my attention and understand the choices that matter (e.g. which boons, artifacts & stats work for a particular class).
I create new characters simply because I do spend a lot of time in the game & like to try out new things. They are very useful in earning AD & holding salvage/refinement but I also like different play styles.
Dodging & weaving on my TR is very different to face-tanking on my Pally or the AOE's of my CW and I feel understanding the mechanics of each class makes me more appreciative of others when I'm in a party.
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Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
Its just common sense, if you are casual you will never have the time to play 13 characters. Exept if using a credit card i don't know how anything but an unemployed 10 hours a day(minimum) hardcore player would make even just 8 characters competitive in dungeons etc.
1) I never claimed to be fully casual, i play too much for that, but i am not pay to win, and i am not as "try hard" as some either. Actually i think its hard to fit me in a class lol.
2) What i did before december to buy zen? Huh i was probably just not buying zen...? For a long time i just played and got diamonds here and there like i could. Before Dread Legion, i remember i actually saved a damn lot to be able to get a zen market mount and i got it on discount at 50% off... so around 1500 zen, and that was when the exchange was around 125-135. I did got a few months of vip but it was pretty much all my diamonds that got into that. Yes i struggled and it was hard. I only use 20$ of real money and it was in that time. One item i got was a bag and the other one was actually a month of vip...
3) So because its the first game of that kind i played and i was not aware of many things it mean its my problem? A game should be given you the right clues and should take into consideration of progression that people are beginners at it. Basically you say the game should assume we are used to this type of play and know everything to reflect progression. Thats not right. A game progression and time should always be reflected on a total beginner aproach. You then assume i should have come here and learn everything as i was fully new to the game. Lol. Many games in my life i just played and never got to the devs forum. I love halo, especially campaign but enjoy MP casually, does not mean i go at 343 forum and discuss all the mechanics and such there. I play COD for years, yet if i ever visited there forum 1 or 2 times total thats good. I only stay active on forums of this game and GOW, and still GOW its been a while i got there, as currently i have nothing to say... (Wich should change soon with the GOW4 beta)
4) Actually yes and no, my progress where not ALL reset as i kept using my GF to run dungeon and make diamonds, also the enchantements can be transfered, and the experienced learned was there. As for MOD4-5 gear, huh actually when mod6 hit i was lev 60 for 2 weeks... i just bough one piece of armor (armor of insanity) and it was all my economy. Again you assume i was pumped up, full of diamonds and knowing everything. Neverwinter was a long slow painfull process for me to learn everything. I never seen a game such compliated, and its not that i am unfamiliar with RPGs, i mean i got used to Morrowind pretty fast when i first played it back then, and oblivion/skyrim i got used to them in no time. Its just a different breed. I remember one of my first complain to a friend was "why is there so many curency in that game... why they just don't use gold !!!" lol
7) Again why assuming i needed a guild? When you first start the game everything is doable by yourself for a long time, and you can ask people in the environement to help you if needed as they do the same quest as you. I had no idea i needed a guild. If actually the game was well enough designed the dungeons should be able to be done by PUGs. Its pretty bad to me that for exemple GWD require 2000 IS when actually if you got 5x 2000 IS guys, you will go nowhere ...
8) And why would i assume at that point in time that i should have save items to sell 6 months later... no beginner in any game would think of that...
Basically you just assume by your post that because some people are used to these kind of games, and/or played on PC there knowing of the game is the right way to go. I mean with me you get it as authentic as it can be, total beginner at that type of game, learned everything the hard way, that is how the game should measure its time to progress in it. Or at least have tons of tutorials and tips in the game as how things work.
Oh and one final thing, how should i supose to know the GF was just a sponge for the team? When you never play a game like that you just assume the guy will hit less than a 2 hand great weapon fighter, but his shield and defensive abilities will balance for that. Things may be a bit longer to kill but you will die way less since you will be able to protect you. And in the beginning of the game, actually everything die fairly quick, the game never give you an indication of struggle til far in it.
I never expected the guy to be totally useless at attacks in dungeons, or i never expected the difference would that high between a GWF and a GF in zones in time spent to kill stuff. My GWF (roughly same IS as my GF) not only kill stuff in 2 secs, but barely loose life or is in danger at anytime. So this kinda nullify the point of having a defensive character... wich he also never loose life or is in danger of dying, but take so much time to kill stuff.
And dungeons, there such a different bread... another world completely. Now not only the GF cant hit anything for it to matter in damage, but on top of that if no cleric (or bubble pally) his tanking ability are pretty limited. As long as the shield is up, all good, but as soon as stamina is gone, bang bang bang in 2 secs his life will drop. You pretty much NEED the protection of a cleric. So when the pally droped, the GF became almost an useles class. Yes you could argue that his buffs where good and it was still possible to do dungeons the old fashion way, yes yes i know, but most PUGs all they wanted was haste + bubble pally. The GF was never asked for, and PUGING was extremely hard for me, wich is why i switched to GWF as main, as DPS are more or less always asked for. Pally are more asked for obviously, but i really didn't wanted to build another defensive character. And im kinda glad i didn't since now they will be nerfed to the point of being almost useless... its kinda like the roles will be reversed between the GF and pally, kinda ironic lol
If i can reach 3.5K with my GWF, at some point puging should be very easy.
Its just common sense, if you are casual you will never have the time to play 13 characters. Exept if using a credit card i don't know how anything but an unemployed 10 hours a day(minimum) hardcore player would make even just 8 characters competitive in dungeons etc.
Oh you are absolutely funny. You think I play all 13 characters? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
We, the people who have this many characters, don't actually play all of them. I have 3 characters I will 'play' on and usually it's just my GWF. I can't respond after this anymore, your perceptions on how things work are completely wrong. Bye. ^_^
@destrowod you may want to consider an Elven Battle armor enchantment for your GF as it increases stamina gain quite a bit.
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Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
Its just common sense, if you are casual you will never have the time to play 13 characters. Exept if using a credit card i don't know how anything but an unemployed 10 hours a day(minimum) hardcore player would make even just 8 characters competitive in dungeons etc.
Oh you are absolutely funny. You think I play all 13 characters? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
We, the people who have this many characters, don't actually play all of them. I have 3 characters I will 'play' on and usually it's just my GWF. I can't respond after this anymore, your perceptions on how things work are completely wrong. Bye. ^_^
As Zelink said we have many characters, but most are not played on we use them for 2x ad, extra space, and professions plus may I ask how the hell a credit card would make it so you were able to play on more characters a day than another? That makes no sense. : 3
Zelink : I dunno... you tell me. Hell whats the point of making characters if its only to use them as banks and refiners? I guess this is where the "hardcore" come into mind, as a casual would never think of making characters only for this purpose. My logic is to make characters ill have fun playing. And at that point i think its crazy how you manage to deal with all those char and keep track... lol
armadeon : Thanks for the tip, will check that, altough im shor ton C.ward at the moment, ill have just enough for my vorpal in the making and maybe a couple other enchant this weekend.
itsmith : Well a credit card could help you build characters faster, make them competitive faster...? But i don't see why you ask me this
Funny how making multiple toons and using them for AD farming purposes only is no longer against ToS and "rules of fairplay" of PWE, if this was posted on PC side it would already been deleted and the player punished.
Seems this is totally ok, well im off to make a few, hell, prolly a dozen alts or more
Zelink : I dunno... you tell me. Hell whats the point of making characters if its only to use them as banks and refiners? I guess this is where the "hardcore" come into mind, as a casual would never think of making characters only for this purpose. My logic is to make characters ill have fun playing. And at that point i think its crazy how you manage to deal with all those char and keep track... lol
The point is to use them as banks and refiners. Don't you get it?
No double AD in the calendar at the end of April...
Yes there is, it's showing for April 28th.
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Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
Funny how making multiple toons and using them for AD farming purposes only is no longer against ToS and "rules of fairplay" of PWE, if this was posted on PC side it would already been deleted and the player punished.
Seems this is totally ok, well im off to make a few, hell, prolly a dozen alts or more
And start churning AD and gold.
Jumped the gun, seems gonna have to still wait on this, no official word on the Fair Use Policy of PWE in yet, waiting for strum to confirm this or contact PWE at his end.
You have to be kidding me... how can there be any violation what-so-ever anyway... You BUY these extra character slots and you should be able to do whatever you want with the character. As long as you do not try to rip people off or the game itself, if you use a character as storage space how could that ever be against any policy?
I`m sorry but if I some how got banned for using a character as storage to wait for double AD I would quit the game and post on every forum I could find... A lot
Main - Rydia (HR70) - Xbox One Player only Alts : Storm (SW70), Edge (TR70), AD Farm (CW70), Grunt (GF70), Rosa (DC70), AD AD AD (GWF70), Your Mum (OP70)
Well have fun levelling them up to 60 and then complaining Sloth lol
Main - Rydia (HR70) - Xbox One Player only Alts : Storm (SW70), Edge (TR70), AD Farm (CW70), Grunt (GF70), Rosa (DC70), AD AD AD (GWF70), Your Mum (OP70)
I have 51 character slots. 37 of those are level 70, 14 are level 66. I bought all my slots on the character slot sales when I was paying 80 zen per two slots. Sounds crazy lol, I only play one character at a time but 3 of them are over 3k IL each. All 3 are finished with their campaigns minus Under Dark. All their gear is pretty much maxxed out but I rotate my gems out to each character depending on which one I want to run. I have taken a couple of breaks over the year that I've played but as bad as people like to bad mouth Neverwinter, it's the only MMO out there and I love it. I run all my characters prayers and net Coalescents, Preservation Wards, Greater Marks and can net 1.5 mil every 10 days just by praying. Every single one of my characters runs leadership, so I horde my bags from it for every x2 RP. I also run a good guild. We might not be the strongest but I do share my money making techniques with anyone who wants to listen. It doesn't force me to put money into the game, but I have put some into it. I put money into it to have a good time with something that I enjoy. Just like someone who'd pay a couple hundred one night of drinking at a bar. We all play for different reasons. Some casually play, some are hardcore like me. If you focus on one character only, you can get by and still have a good time with minimal investment to the game.
Main - Rydia (HR70) - Xbox One Player only Alts : Storm (SW70), Edge (TR70), AD Farm (CW70), Grunt (GF70), Rosa (DC70), AD AD AD (GWF70), Your Mum (OP70)
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As for being part of LGPG, once again, nothing to do with being casual or not. Some people in the guild barely play this game right now and only do enough to help some and keep their spot in the guild. There are people in all of the 'big' guilds that don't even do much except professions and AH for a bit when they actually do get on. The generalizations you make are not sound because I know otherwise.
Now, whether or not you consider yourself casual or hardcore, that's on you. I will admit I have times where I go hardcore, but plenty of times I have barely played or when playing, playing very casually.
Stop judging others, honestly. What works for you is not necessarily right for others.
Guides may or may not fit your schedule or play style - it doesn't really matter.
Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
Member of Casual Dailies - XBox
So you started playing in mod4 and you are still playing now yet claim to be casual, yet if someone has over 10 char slots (and there have been 2 90% off sales where you could spend less than 1m and have over 15 char slots). Now you also say you didn't learn how to earn AD until December so what did you do up until then? Buy zen with w credit card lol?...
You said it yourself you're new to the mmo genre and have had little to no idea on how to efficiently progress and thats where you fell off while other "hardcore" players saw tons of investment oppertunity which were in many cases outlined by PC players all up and down their section of this exact same forum.
Now you say you feel weak compared to where you "should" be. Well that again is on you. You played a GF, by the sounds of it solo, and you struggled. Its a support class its meant to be played with other higher dps classes in 95% of cases. So when you decided to switch mains for an easier time playing, you also reset your progress and essentially started over. All he advantage and profit you should have saved from mod4/5 ended up being nonexistent for you so now you are struggling to get by on basic things.
Unfortunately these are all things you brought upon yourself by not researching, joining a guild sooner that was helpful, or by switching classes.
If you had stuck to your GF, saved a few pieces of mod5 gear to sell now, and joined a strong guild early on to learn how to be successful in NW without paying $, you would probably have had a more enjoyable experience.
Indy - XB1 & PS4 - GF
xeV Indy - PS4 - TR
Nde - XB1 - HR
GT: its indy time
PSN: itsindytime
Twitch: indygoinlive
The Kanye West of Neverwinter
Alts :
Storm (SW70), Edge (TR70), AD Farm (CW70), Grunt (GF70), Rosa (DC70), AD AD AD (GWF70), Your Mum (OP70)
Member of Q-Snipe
Everyone needs to remember to have fun n relax. I've seen some of my friends IL slowly increase n others jump overnight. They play at there own pace n have fun.
Creating a new character is much simpler for me these days. Partly through my other characters supplying AD but more importantly because I now know where to focus my attention and understand the choices that matter (e.g. which boons, artifacts & stats work for a particular class).
I create new characters simply because I do spend a lot of time in the game & like to try out new things. They are very useful in earning AD & holding salvage/refinement but I also like different play styles.
Dodging & weaving on my TR is very different to face-tanking on my Pally or the AOE's of my CW and I feel understanding the mechanics of each class makes me more appreciative of others when I'm in a party.
Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
Member of Casual Dailies - XBox
Its just common sense, if you are casual you will never have the time to play 13 characters. Exept if using a credit card i don't know how anything but an unemployed 10 hours a day(minimum) hardcore player would make even just 8 characters competitive in dungeons etc.
@indylol
1) I never claimed to be fully casual, i play too much for that, but i am not pay to win, and i am not as "try hard" as some either. Actually i think its hard to fit me in a class lol.
2) What i did before december to buy zen? Huh i was probably just not buying zen...? For a long time i just played and got diamonds here and there like i could. Before Dread Legion, i remember i actually saved a damn lot to be able to get a zen market mount and i got it on discount at 50% off... so around 1500 zen, and that was when the exchange was around 125-135. I did got a few months of vip but it was pretty much all my diamonds that got into that. Yes i struggled and it was hard. I only use 20$ of real money and it was in that time. One item i got was a bag and the other one was actually a month of vip...
3) So because its the first game of that kind i played and i was not aware of many things it mean its my problem? A game should be given you the right clues and should take into consideration of progression that people are beginners at it. Basically you say the game should assume we are used to this type of play and know everything to reflect progression. Thats not right. A game progression and time should always be reflected on a total beginner aproach. You then assume i should have come here and learn everything as i was fully new to the game. Lol. Many games in my life i just played and never got to the devs forum. I love halo, especially campaign but enjoy MP casually, does not mean i go at 343 forum and discuss all the mechanics and such there. I play COD for years, yet if i ever visited there forum 1 or 2 times total thats good. I only stay active on forums of this game and GOW, and still GOW its been a while i got there, as currently i have nothing to say... (Wich should change soon with the GOW4 beta)
4) Actually yes and no, my progress where not ALL reset as i kept using my GF to run dungeon and make diamonds, also the enchantements can be transfered, and the experienced learned was there. As for MOD4-5 gear, huh actually when mod6 hit i was lev 60 for 2 weeks... i just bough one piece of armor (armor of insanity) and it was all my economy. Again you assume i was pumped up, full of diamonds and knowing everything. Neverwinter was a long slow painfull process for me to learn everything. I never seen a game such compliated, and its not that i am unfamiliar with RPGs, i mean i got used to Morrowind pretty fast when i first played it back then, and oblivion/skyrim i got used to them in no time. Its just a different breed. I remember one of my first complain to a friend was "why is there so many curency in that game... why they just don't use gold !!!" lol
7) Again why assuming i needed a guild? When you first start the game everything is doable by yourself for a long time, and you can ask people in the environement to help you if needed as they do the same quest as you. I had no idea i needed a guild. If actually the game was well enough designed the dungeons should be able to be done by PUGs. Its pretty bad to me that for exemple GWD require 2000 IS when actually if you got 5x 2000 IS guys, you will go nowhere ...
8) And why would i assume at that point in time that i should have save items to sell 6 months later... no beginner in any game would think of that...
Basically you just assume by your post that because some people are used to these kind of games, and/or played on PC there knowing of the game is the right way to go. I mean with me you get it as authentic as it can be, total beginner at that type of game, learned everything the hard way, that is how the game should measure its time to progress in it. Or at least have tons of tutorials and tips in the game as how things work.
I never expected the guy to be totally useless at attacks in dungeons, or i never expected the difference would that high between a GWF and a GF in zones in time spent to kill stuff. My GWF (roughly same IS as my GF) not only kill stuff in 2 secs, but barely loose life or is in danger at anytime. So this kinda nullify the point of having a defensive character... wich he also never loose life or is in danger of dying, but take so much time to kill stuff.
And dungeons, there such a different bread... another world completely. Now not only the GF cant hit anything for it to matter in damage, but on top of that if no cleric (or bubble pally) his tanking ability are pretty limited. As long as the shield is up, all good, but as soon as stamina is gone, bang bang bang in 2 secs his life will drop. You pretty much NEED the protection of a cleric. So when the pally droped, the GF became almost an useles class. Yes you could argue that his buffs where good and it was still possible to do dungeons the old fashion way, yes yes i know, but most PUGs all they wanted was haste + bubble pally. The GF was never asked for, and PUGING was extremely hard for me, wich is why i switched to GWF as main, as DPS are more or less always asked for. Pally are more asked for obviously, but i really didn't wanted to build another defensive character. And im kinda glad i didn't since now they will be nerfed to the point of being almost useless... its kinda like the roles will be reversed between the GF and pally, kinda ironic lol
If i can reach 3.5K with my GWF, at some point puging should be very easy.
We, the people who have this many characters, don't actually play all of them. I have 3 characters I will 'play' on and usually it's just my GWF. I can't respond after this anymore, your perceptions on how things work are completely wrong. Bye. ^_^
Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
Member of Casual Dailies - XBox
armadeon : Thanks for the tip, will check that, altough im shor ton C.ward at the moment, ill have just enough for my vorpal in the making and maybe a couple other enchant this weekend.
itsmith : Well a credit card could help you build characters faster, make them competitive faster...? But i don't see why you ask me this
Funny how making multiple toons and using them for AD farming purposes only is no longer against ToS and "rules of fairplay" of PWE, if this was posted on PC side it would already been deleted and the player punished.Seems this is totally ok, well im off to make a few, hell, prolly a dozen alts or more
And start churning AD and gold.
Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
Member of Casual Dailies - XBox
I`m sorry but if I some how got banned for using a character as storage to wait for double AD I would quit the game and post on every forum I could find... A lot
Alts :
Storm (SW70), Edge (TR70), AD Farm (CW70), Grunt (GF70), Rosa (DC70), AD AD AD (GWF70), Your Mum (OP70)
Member of Q-Snipe
Alts :
Storm (SW70), Edge (TR70), AD Farm (CW70), Grunt (GF70), Rosa (DC70), AD AD AD (GWF70), Your Mum (OP70)
Member of Q-Snipe
Alts :
Storm (SW70), Edge (TR70), AD Farm (CW70), Grunt (GF70), Rosa (DC70), AD AD AD (GWF70), Your Mum (OP70)
Member of Q-Snipe