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Are you seeing a drastic reduction in auction activity, like I am?

carianne9carianne9 Member Posts: 76 Arc User
Hello all, and thanks for clicking on my topic! I am looking for your take on AH activity over the last few months - it seems to me there is a lot less "buying" going on in the AH since coalgate. Have *so* many people stopped playing, that I am noticing a significant change in my AH sales? I run what I think is "a robust marketplace" - keeping a lot of items up for sale.

For example, prior to coalgate, after work or on weekends, I would review what was for sale and add up to the 40 item limit. Most of the time, within a couple hours at most, about 15 items or so would sell, and I'd have to add/update my listings. Nice churn, IMO. In fact, when I would post my profession items for auction, I'd post in pairs - put up two of the same item for sale - and most times both sold quickly. For lockbox items I could sell several of the same item within a couple hours - post, sell, post again, sell, post again.

Since coalgate, AH sales just aren't as brisk as they were, by a noticeable amount. For profession items, I no longer post in pairs, and hope it sells by the next night. Now, within say, three hours, I might sell 3 or 4 items; fewer items are selling and it is taking longer. For lockbox items, in the same time frame, I might sell 1 of a thing and put up another of that thing, but rarely do I get to post-sell-post it again-rinse, repeat.

How is your AH activity? As robust as it had been? Do you agree - that many people have quit, affecting the activity? That's all I can think of, the change is so drastic. Sadly, I know that my guild, which admittedly was small to begin with, is pretty much just me now. Sigh. At any rate, what are your thoughts?

Thanks!

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  • wylonuswylonus Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,376 Arc User
    we have no words from devs or other programmer teams regarding c-wards, other than that.
    i have sold older profession crafters since my guild's stronghold got filled up except needing diamonds, so the sales might be slowed when some players spending on SH instead of AH.
    SH rank 8 is very rough on several smaller guilds.

    many already pulled out items when they are no longer selling as they expired, not putting back up, players are aware and costly to put it back up for auction fee, maybe they cut back.
    less players playing and less they need anything on auctions and others dont need anything since they are either maxed or got everything they need.
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    I've been selling stuff just as fast as I was prior to the removal of the c-wards. Maybe you aren't selling the right things? Not sure.
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  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    Yes.. in terms of enchantments(higher then the botted stacks), there is a 30-40% reduction from before the removal.

    I dont keep track of much else though.. so if your like me and really only looking at enchantments for your own use.. then the recent wave of both removal of enchantments and the increased pricing of said enchantments, is a tad disheatinig.. what was a 2 week grind for 1 enchant. has turned into a 2.5 week one.

    Doesnt sound daunting until you want to get .. oh 40 more of them. then it sure sounds daunting.

  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    Keep in mind that it's also normal for people to take "vacations" in the period leading up to a release, and whether or not people have permanently left, there are (I gather) a bunch of shiny new games on the market to try out. It's not alllll about the wards.

    Another thing is that people are funneling AD into the ZAX right now, and probably buying fewer items for AD overall.

    I would also expect some people to be saving VIP keys at the moment, in anticipation that a new box will launch on Tuesday. That would make the supply of items from lockboxes less self-replenishing.
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  • putzboy78putzboy78 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,950 Arc User
    Yeah I'd say it has more to do with a general decrease in activity in the game (people are taking a break before the CN farming begins), people hoarding RP for a 2xRP weekend, and people hoarding resources for a new MOD and the price decrease in the stronghold.

    Coalgate is mostly people complaining and few did/will leave the game over it. Those who had t-bars now have a stack of coals to sell when the price is right and are already making a huge profit on them. Those who didn't have tbars saved up generally weren't using the tbar store anyhow. There is of course a minority group that had used up their tbars and had hoped to get more for wards but I don't think its as big as people made it out to be. Especially when you consider that people were only buying coals from the tbar merchant for about 3 months (before that it was all ZEN, AH, and invoke rewards).
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,435 Arc User
    I don't notice the difference in my AH sales before and after coalgate.
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  • taitinhakkaajataitinhakkaaja Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    I haven't seen any difference in AH, but there is way less players farming mod8 HE's -> less lag.
  • zibadawazibadawa Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User

    I haven't seen any difference in AH, but there is way less players farming mod8 HE's -> less lag.

    Right now I think that's just the combination of super cheap character slots with an xp weekend. People are playing on alts to get them to 70, or 60, or at least high enough to run professions and invoke, or whatever goals they may have. Tonight level 70 content seems EXTREMELY dead. Like if I were a first-time level 70 looking to break into the new content, I would be greatly dismayed at how I apparently arrived at the game long after it died.
  • dsn1118dsn1118 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 682 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    1)Yeah some high rollers left the game
    2)Some items like old 2-slotted rings arent as attractive as old days
    3)I dont buy slotted pants or shirts on my alts anymore.I bought underdark ones wtih extra ichors instead.
    4)New masterwork professions require ridiculous amount AD or time so people stopped working for them.Less middle items sold now.Like gold nuggets,etc.
    5)Some of high-end masterwork gear crafters caught selling AD for real money.That means less buyer for those masterwork low tier items
    6)All of the extra AD from old bugs got siphoned away finally.(With AD sinks or old players leaving the game)
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  • zibadawazibadawa Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    dsn1118 said:

    6)All of the extra AD from old bugs got siphoned away finally.(With AD sinks or old players leaving the game)

    I'm extremely doubtful of this. My experience in online games of all stripes suggests that those who get rich from bug exploits will not allow their vast riches to meaningfully decrease (in part because the magnitude of the riches is sort of intrinsically immune). They may spend vast quantities, but it's generally with an eye towards recouping the costs later. The only way to efficiently drain away vast sums of exploited riches is to simply remove them entirely. Otherwise you're just crossing your fingers that the exploiters all hoard their wealth "because", or otherwise leave the game and don't disseminate their riches before doing so.
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  • dsn1118dsn1118 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 682 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    zibadawa said:

    dsn1118 said:

    6)All of the extra AD from old bugs got siphoned away finally.(With AD sinks or old players leaving the game)

    I'm extremely doubtful of this. My experience in online games of all stripes suggests that those who get rich from bug exploits will not allow their vast riches to meaningfully decrease (in part because the magnitude of the riches is sort of intrinsically immune). They may spend vast quantities, but it's generally with an eye towards recouping the costs later. The only way to efficiently drain away vast sums of exploited riches is to simply remove them entirely. Otherwise you're just crossing your fingers that the exploiters all hoard their wealth "because", or otherwise leave the game and don't disseminate their riches before doing so.
    You might be right but I also know a lot of people just got up and left without giving anything away and some of them donated everything they have to SH coffers.Stronghold was a very effective way of draining AD from those hoarders until now.
  • aaramis75aaramis75 Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    There's an expansion out in 3 days. If the market has slowed, it's probably a result of people holding on to their AD, or converting what they have to Zen to buy mounts.
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  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    Two comments.

    Love all those ppl claiming, that everyone with XX millions of ADs is an exploiter. Some ppl never learn. If you cant get xx kk ADs playing a few years, without exploiting, and others can do it, guess what...

    There is a decrease in activity. Every 'strategic' move bleeds players. The only solid argument here is, that most long time players stopped playing and bc they are the ones who farmed CN, used leadership, bought and sold things for years, millions of ADs left the game. IMO 'long time players left and all the new players are poor, so everything is dandy' is a flawed argument.
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  • bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    What is this obsession people have with putting -gate on the end of things? The origin of it all, "Watergate", was not something about "water" to which they appended -gate to the end - "Watergate" was the whole name...

    And anyway, "coalgate" just makes me think of toothpaste.
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    bioshrike said:

    What is this obsession people have with putting -gate on the end of things? The origin of it all, "Watergate", was not something about "water" to which they appended -gate to the end - "Watergate" was the whole name...

    And anyway, "coalgate" just makes me think of toothpaste.

    Yeah, the Watergate Hotel was the actual spot of the whole affair there--it wasn't just an invention. People just thought it cute to append "-gate" to anything they thought remotely scandalous, and it snowballed from there.

    Tired cliche, really. But that's just me.

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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,435 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    bioshrike said:


    And anyway, "coalgate" just makes me think of toothpaste.

    I assume that is the exact reason why he did that. e.g. He did not choose to use cward-gate.
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  • kemnimtarkaskemnimtarkas Member Posts: 838 Arc User
    asterotg said:

    ....

    The only solid argument here is, that most long time players stopped playing and bc they are the ones who farmed CN, used leadership, bought and sold things for years, millions of ADs left the game. IMO 'long time players left and all the new players are poor, so everything is dandy' is a flawed argument.

    I think that's pretty succinct. And accurate.
  • eocrooseocroos Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 48 Arc User
    I think once new mod is released the AH will be blooming for a week or so with old players returning to see what's new then go back to whatever they were doing. But I see there's a lot of supply but not much demand right now.
  • hypnoticbeasthypnoticbeast Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    There is always a small dip in the AH right before a new box or mod comes out. Nothing to worry about. I get plenty of coal wards with my V.I.P keys anyway. So chill out and relax, it's the way a market is suppose to work. Not jack up prices that only a few can afford "right now".
  • wildfiredewildfirede Member Posts: 886 Arc User
    My personal activity is reduced from the ocassional fashion/pet shopping to selling whatever came from the box for 10-20k and collect up for c.wards. Before i was sure i get a ward once/week and spend ad on 'silly'stuff now i am holding up every single AD, that and new mod incomming = spend 3-4k zen on fuggly mount wih the bonus i need.
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  • karakla1karakla1 Member Posts: 1,355 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    Infact there is currently a reduction in the auctionhouse activity.
    The regular activity is about 20.000 and currently we are at the 5.000 mark for this week
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