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GF shield radius is too wide!
jarecsteph
Member Posts: 270 Arc User
GF shield radius protection is way too wide it as to be tone down by 15% because at the moment when you outplay them they still are shield protected (immune) for practically 360 degrees around theme and due to the high DPS and stun they gain combine in no way of dodging it, GF are not balance and bad for PVP.
By toning down there shield radius protection by 15% it will add difficulty to there playing and be more possible to fight with them.
I don't say that GF shield is 360 degrees but that he is (immune) for practically 360 degrees. The speed GF can move gives them the closing gap of their shield for a complete 360 degrees protection and he’s near impossible to attack in 1 x 1 PVP. The only way is to get them when they attack, but good GF will only attack when they can’t be avoid and strike you prone and stun.
By toning down there shield radius protection by 15% it will add difficulty to there playing and be more possible to fight with them.
I don't say that GF shield is 360 degrees but that he is (immune) for practically 360 degrees. The speed GF can move gives them the closing gap of their shield for a complete 360 degrees protection and he’s near impossible to attack in 1 x 1 PVP. The only way is to get them when they attack, but good GF will only attack when they can’t be avoid and strike you prone and stun.
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With that said, GF could use a shield movespeed nerf, probably another 10%.
Pally Sanctuary needs to be like 50%...
(1) the total disablement of the padlock(hardlock) function in PvP.
(2) enforcing max camera distance/angle
Artificial/auto aim assist has no place in PvP. In PvP you aim manually, target manually. Confusing the targeting with stuff like enemy tanks jumping into your line of sight to protect their own, many enemies grouping/bunching up to confuse exact targeting point or location, fast movements and teleportations and stuff to confuse your manual tracking, quick movements to the flank to attempt to make you lose sight of your foe...
...all of these are vital and relevant PvP player skill categories which makes or breaks your gameplay. This is all null and void when you use auto-target lock with the warped/far camera angle some folks are using which you can even see your near behind angles, which is a needless crutch.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
Why because youre BAD for PVP every GF must suffer???
LEARN TO PLAY SCRUB
You dont even post what your experience is... which class are u and why do u have problems beating GF...
Again in all my years ive played PVP nobody has ever qq about our SHIELD... its the very first time some guy post a request like this...
MODERATORS please erase this TOPIC as NERF topics are not ALLOWED.
And OP learn to play and stop crying in the forums.
Peace
The visual indicator wont work because of latancy and the difference between client-server-client... Many times I got cc when I thought I was safe
Steel and Magic
PS. i was talking about GFs from mod5 but like always there was answers like this" You complaing about GF? you are nob CW if you can't kill GF". Now with mod 6 GF's buff, they will be nightmare for all
This solution would also in a way adress the biggest problem that pvp has, paladins...
Steel and Magic
a fat one with a big shield and the higher burst of all classes...
mkay.
also. No more needs for prones at this point.
Make them stuns.
Steel and Magic
— (The unwritten rule)
OBVIOUSLY
GF shield is too wide
TR stealth is too transparent
GWF unstopable makes him bigger (also he cannot stop)
CW encounter in tab does more damage
HR bow has long range
SW curses you (i want to see whether its against ROC for someone to curse you)
OP auras affect everyone in the party , not just him
so please do something bout these things
Urlord
They dont complain about GF per se, only the latest class that
1st: they dont understand their mechanics
2nd: know their class better than them
3rd: outplayed and/or outgeared them and they have a grudge
4th: pawned them mercilessly in some scenarios and they think it applies in 100% of the cases
MacJae of a known pvp guild( 7k gs scrubs) and Obsydian (BractTwoFen) the two most whining wizards ever graced the floor of any MMo ever,they ask again for GF nerf.
Lol
When i was more young at this game i tend to repsect the guys that were belonging to a famous pvp guild or that posted a lot.
I don't anymore.The reason?
These two criers are the best examples.Whining all he time with no data whatsoever.
Spreading propaganda and misinformation.You would think people that pvp a lot would be serious.These two are the
1)the most liars on the entire server.Cause Obsydian has posted a video where he melted in succesion for 6 (!) times the Absolute's GF and GWf.While his hp bar stayed at 90%.
While the other liar,Lucy Loyalar aka Mcjae is in top page of NCL and page 6 of total leaderboard.That means he melts anyone with ease.
Yet both cry so hard that Niagara is a little stream before them.
0r
2)The most incompetent CWs ever.Cause if you cry too much and have the gear that they have,and play the most broken class ever graced any MMO,NW Cw (tankiest than the tank and 5x the damage) and have problems killing the slowest class of all ,then uninstal the freakin game.
ROFLMAO.
To the point noiw:
360 degrees..ROFLMAO !The guy confused GF with OP!!! Ha ha !Epic!!
270 degrees ..same
GF shield is 180% degrees Ainsteins.
As for the GFs that participated in t the thread and said things like (ehhhh yes,,ehhh ...ITF is problem..)
or (ehhh....;.I am top GF ehhh but...eh..nerf our move speed) ,i have something to say to you!
SHOW SOME BALLS TO THE WIZZARDS GOD DAMN IT!!!
You capitulated before even the fight!
No!!Our ITF is Fine!!And our movement speed is fine!!
You think by playing the good will cause these two [pathological criers and whinners to stop?
They will never stop asking for nerfs ,they just want to have an easy time.
SlickHair and Kruk i respect you ,you both are very good GFs ,a shine to the GF community.Fight the damn CW criers and not capitulate to them.
Edit:CWs should no longer IGNORE 66% of TENACITY CC.
CW shield makes them tankier than GFs and need adjustment.
CW encounters nned longer cooldawns.
CW EOTS in mod6 need adjustment to new stat curve.
CW dodges should no longer provide damage immunity for a while second(!) after.
Edit2:
I forgot rayrdan top TR and HR crying again against Gfs.You want your easy time mod3 style ray?
While Combat HRs were putting GF/GWFs in mellee dust in 4 secs?
For the record Rayrdan in the past claimed that Gfs do 100k lunging strikes...Ponder and wonder his credibility..These 3 are the Gf accusers.MacJae ,Obsydian and rayrdan.One worst than the other.
MY main is a TR which means that equally geared GF's can pwn me if i m not carefull 100% of the time within 1 sec.
PLUS many times i disagree with @ hypervoreian
YET...
+1000 to this thread and kudos to @ hypervoreian for his spirit
Mod 4 buffs gave GFs the defensive tools they needed. Mod 6 buffed us into awesomeness, but right now we are too awesome. I enjoy the QQ tears from 4.5k wallet warriors like ByTheLight (I think I've killed that dude 20 of his 50 times, which is actually hilarious because he accussed & ticketed by for exploiting despite his infinite daily/blinding light/TW combo due to a KNOWN exploit in Echoes and Aura of Vengance) as much as the next guy but some things are no longer conceptually okay.
GF block movespeed and Pally Sanctuary movespeed both need to be reduced, sanctuary more so than block. And yes, the shield is ~270 degrees which is fine..
I'm clean as a whistle, with a fresh shave, extraordinarily good looking, a pearly smile and a millionaire bankrolling my escapades IRL. I have no need for drugs.
With that said, I assume you don't know anything about balance because you offered nothing in your post in regards to balance. I main a GF (3, in fact, both paragons and all 3 trees all fairly decked out and all but one have Dom Champ (Tactician only has 34/50 triples or something like that) and the fact remains that we are insanely powerful right now in PVP. Even my Protector with Frost/Frostburn can gib players with Combat S and Trample, survive the fight, and continue on her day with little threat to herself.
I for one, do not want to be overpowered. I want to have a fun fight where any mistake I make isn't mitigated by an "I win" button. Every class, regardless of gear with the exception of non-Reflect OPs, is food for me. I fought a CW named Fizzdan the other day who was a tremendous CW and really did all he could to kill me (got me a few times), but a vast majority of the time I just one rotationed him. It's not broken, but it's not fair. He's a better player than me and the risks that I had to subjugate myself to were minimal vice the risks he had to take.
But what I think really needs a nerf on GF is the crazy damage they can do in high end gear. I think there is something broken in the scaling. I have had a GF with a Bronzewood enchant hit me with Anvil for 79,909 after mitigation in burning gear with a (150kish hit before mitigation). This was a CA hit. It was not a critical hit. His Bull charge was critting for as high as 77k before mitigation.
did you just call a GWF a tank.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i just needed to laugh at that
ON TOPIC:
How to balance GF 101
1) Dial back Into the Fray to module 2 status
2) Dial back to the OLD BLOCK where it REQUIRED SKILL TO UES
3) no more 50% damage resistance on lunging strike and bull charge
4) bullcharge cooldown increased to 15 secs
5) lunging cooldown increased to 12 secs
6) anvil hp theresold only 20% and cd increased by 2 secs.
7) base damage reduced by about 30%
now u have balanced gf that cannot kill casters in 1 rotation
regards
+1
GWF is tanky, but items like Whell of elements (generaly all forms of piercing damage) make him squishy.
my point? u are a nab.
its the ENCHANTMENT THAT IS TANKY. not the class. gwf is squishy as hell.
grab one of these BiS GWF's that u worship and strip negation off of them. they will drop like flies
regards