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karakla1
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I think I have a good idea to stop Spambots in Neverwinter or at least to slow them down a lot.
Characters can only write in chats if they reach level 10. They can only level up via quests which mean you implement an IF-Command that player below level 10 can’t earn XP from killing monsters and increase a bit of the XP reward of the quests to compensate the loss of the XP from Monsters in addition player below level 10 doesn’t get Bonus XP from double XP Events.
Then you implement in one of the quests a random trigger riddle to open a door. For example you make a field of 3x3 stone plates and simply say: if a player pushes all three stone plates with the lion head on it the door opens. In a small bag is a short description for players which say: The Lion leads the way.
The spawn of the lion heads is randomized in the grid and if you press a wrong stone plate the whole set will be reset.
The first 10 level can be accomplished in like 30-60 minutes (if I remember correct) and I think a regular player can endure this time without a chat function (he still can read) and a Spambot need to make all the quests to level 10 to unlock the chat and because profession is unlocked at 10 and invocation at 11 there is no other way of bypass the system. In addition the Bot can’t hardly solve the riddle and to proceed he needs to push all available combinations. To counter that you could randomize the number of lion heads as well (2-7) and it will slow them down a lot and someone must do the riddle manually.
The effect would be a lot less Spambots. Not because it is unsolvable (it isn’t) but most of the spammers wouldn’t want to do such a hassle for a simple advertising Spambot that will banned after a few minutes anyway and the best is, no big trouble for normal player only the inconvenient not to use the chat for like 30-60 minutes at the very beginning of the game and the most of them wouldn’t even notice it and the one noticing it would be like “Ah yeah, anti bot measurements, totally understandable.” And the best, no big deal to implement the whole stuff so it means: No big cost.
Characters can only write in chats if they reach level 10. They can only level up via quests which mean you implement an IF-Command that player below level 10 can’t earn XP from killing monsters and increase a bit of the XP reward of the quests to compensate the loss of the XP from Monsters in addition player below level 10 doesn’t get Bonus XP from double XP Events.
Then you implement in one of the quests a random trigger riddle to open a door. For example you make a field of 3x3 stone plates and simply say: if a player pushes all three stone plates with the lion head on it the door opens. In a small bag is a short description for players which say: The Lion leads the way.
The spawn of the lion heads is randomized in the grid and if you press a wrong stone plate the whole set will be reset.
The first 10 level can be accomplished in like 30-60 minutes (if I remember correct) and I think a regular player can endure this time without a chat function (he still can read) and a Spambot need to make all the quests to level 10 to unlock the chat and because profession is unlocked at 10 and invocation at 11 there is no other way of bypass the system. In addition the Bot can’t hardly solve the riddle and to proceed he needs to push all available combinations. To counter that you could randomize the number of lion heads as well (2-7) and it will slow them down a lot and someone must do the riddle manually.
The effect would be a lot less Spambots. Not because it is unsolvable (it isn’t) but most of the spammers wouldn’t want to do such a hassle for a simple advertising Spambot that will banned after a few minutes anyway and the best is, no big trouble for normal player only the inconvenient not to use the chat for like 30-60 minutes at the very beginning of the game and the most of them wouldn’t even notice it and the one noticing it would be like “Ah yeah, anti bot measurements, totally understandable.” And the best, no big deal to implement the whole stuff so it means: No big cost.
Platypus wielding a giant hammer, your argument is invalild!
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Not really. Time is money. To sink in 5 hours of time to get 1 bot to post three times the advertising in the chat before he gets automatically marked as spambot and banned is not really effective especially if you need 1 person to get every bot through a **** riddle.
Next thing on the to do list, give the CMs here limited GM rights ingame, and let them clean out the known bot hives.
They are farming at some points ingame in plain sight...
- check them
- remove them
End of story.
That should also put the fear into a few regular players using bots to let them do their farming.
Everything changed with this problem in mod4 and artifact gear...
Now we have lots of 3.5+ w/o any skill or knowledge of dungeons.
That's true, it is not our Job. But sometimes i think it is also "our" game. The Developers are only humans like us, maybe 20-50 in total working on this game at max. We player are like 10.000 to 100.000+ and the professional botters (which make money out of the game) are like what 100 individual at max? It is more likely some of the player came up with a idea because we constantly play the game and even most of us doesn't know how programming works it is only a logical and mathematical puzzle to solve such a problem.
That sounds like a nice solution too to make your personal progress again personal instead a social happening via AH.
It will delay the spam for sure, but it will not stop it. Even if you choose to ignore anything below level 70, they will just let their bots go through longer farming runs, and then send them into PE to spam again.
Take a look at Neverdeath Graveyard, you can see level 60+ bots in numbers farming Ghost Stories for the profession nodes, not a problem for them to get the spam bots to level 70 if necessary.
And i'm pretty sure that level 70 bots are still running around in New Sharandar for the Arcane Reservoir quest...
In the end, any kind of level restriction will not resolve this problem.
It will take them at least several days to lvl up to 70. That's long enough to make mute worth my time. I'll have to waste max 3s to mute them, while they will need like 3 weeks to hit lvl70 while botting.
And time is not really an issue for them, not sure how fast they will reach level 70, but i doubt that it will take them more then a few days.
And they can compensate this new obsticle by just cranking up the numbers of bots, which might result in even more lag/server problems for us regular players.
As stated, a level restriction will only slow them down, but not remove the spam.
I have no problem with this idea, just saying, that it is a pointless one, as the "you need level 15 to write in zone chat" restriction was.
Anyway, seeing how the Devs ignore this problem, it makes you wonder, if they even play their own game anymore... oh wait, they don't... or only for a short time and some specific testing scenario.
I didn't invent this - i saw it in other games: Just have separate pre-lvl 70 zone chat and lvl 70 zone chat.