I have been a cw in this game for a long time and I have seen you cut our damage by a huge amount back in mod 4 so that the new class sw could be top dps.
Yea, stopped reading there. Even with TT SW's still could not compare to a competent CW. The only CW's that a SW could out pace were the bad ones.
Oh noes, you had one power balanced. Least you didn't ahve two specs ripped out from under you and made completely useless. *frowns at the state of Fury and Temptation for SWs*
You obviously were a bad warlock. Warlock dps was trivialised all the content. My first elol run I saw the scorpions melt in under a minute. To be fair it was trivial anyway but sw used to make me feel bad for the mobs.
And back then we had all our good encounters nerfed, in return we got a stormspellbuff. What we got now.
You obviously were a bad warlock. Warlock dps was trivialised all the content. My first elol run I saw the scorpions melt in under a minute. To be fair it was trivial anyway but sw used to make me feel bad for the mobs.
And back then we had all our good encounters nerfed, in return we got a stormspellbuff. What we got now.
Then you were a bad CW because a single CW could trivialise those scorpions in eLOL. Warlocks weren't needed, they were just the new thing and got all the hate. Really, stop trying. In fact tehre was no content in mod 4 that wasn't trivialized by one CW, who were able to solo the entire thing.
Yeah whatever man, you obviously have zero clues and its not my job to educate
Really, do I need to dig up the videos of CWs actually proving they solo'd the epic instances, or how about the one of the two CW's that duo'd Epic CN? Let me put it this way, TT was useless on bosses unless the bosses spawned mass enemies, so it was not TT that killed the scorpions fast, as, unlike the myth from people, TT did not rebound on the target of the TT, and to make TT function at it's best you needed several enemies to get the bounce wave going back when everyones damage contributed to TT. So try again.
Well aside from the tt which got nerfed the fabled set from mc is still out there and broken and if you understood the sw class and moved out of fury the ghosts at 3k item lvl are currently hitting for 3 mil. I guess you really just don't understand your class that well. Hint hint sw is still a higher dps class than cw at the same item lvl and by a lot.
Really, do I need to dig up the videos of CWs actually proving they solo'd the epic instances, or how about the one of the two CW's that duo'd Epic CN? Let me put it this way, TT was useless on bosses unless the bosses spawned mass enemies, so it was not TT that killed the scorpions fast, as, unlike the myth from people, TT did not rebound on the target of the TT, and to make TT function at it's best you needed several enemies to get the bounce wave going back when everyones damage contributed to TT. So try again.
So we'll lose a sizeable chunk of our DPS, it doesn't mean that we still won't be good controllers and have reasonable DPS, maybe not among the highest, but still good.
In terms of DPS - a lot of GWFs at the same IL who out DPS me are using the Lostmauth set (which is currently like storm spell right now), so perhaps that will get a nerf, but who knows when? Likewise the TR's 100% crit chance in stealth while spamming CoS combined with the Lostmauth set, SO and piercing damage will likely be turned down.
Just imagine now what the SW went through with TT, and more recently the OP with DJ. I think those last two were bigger nerfs to power than our Storm Spell. Now might be a time for experimenting other class features.
TR's are safely at the top of the PVP food chain, without any equals, CW was smack dab in the middle even before this nerf goes live. So, tell me again, why is this nerf necessary and the real problem (piercing damage) continues to dominate PVP?
It does not compute.
TRs were fine with CWs. I cold kill almost any CW with my TR.
The biggest complainers were pvp GWFs.
In terms of DPS - a lot of GWFs at the same IL who out DPS me are using the Lostmauth set (which is currently like storm spell right now), so perhaps that will get a nerf, but who knows when?
No need to nerf the lost set. You cant compare GWF and CW. Two different classes and two different ways of fighting. GWF cant controll anything. He is a full dps class. So why nerf any dps set? No need.
Well I was commenting on the state of things today not things that happened in mod 4 and 5. The point I was making is with all the broken things in the game why nerf a class that was working good in pve when there is so much to fix that needs attention.
I don't see why this was necessary, CW is firmly in the middle for both PVE and PVP, if you want to do DPS, better options exist even without this nerf.
TR is the best in PVP and also for PVE DPS so yeah, clearly CW needs to be nerfed...
On my TR i out dps everyone whenever i run dungeons/skirmishes, its rare for someone to overtake and when they do its usually a CW hitting multi targets at a time.
I honestly find it funny though that this turned into a cw v sw discussion xD.
No need to nerf the lost set. You cant compare GWF and CW. Two different classes and two different ways of fighting. GWF cant controll anything. He is a full dps class. So why nerf any dps set? No need.
On my TR i out dps everyone whenever i run dungeons/skirmishes, its rare for someone to overtake and when they do its usually a CW hitting multi targets at a time.
I would love to see the paingiver list, when you are with a good geared crit GWF in a Grp.
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Yea, stopped reading there. Even with TT SW's still could not compare to a competent CW. The only CW's that a SW could out pace were the bad ones.
Oh noes, you had one power balanced. Least you didn't ahve two specs ripped out from under you and made completely useless. *frowns at the state of Fury and Temptation for SWs*
And back then we had all our good encounters nerfed, in return we got a stormspellbuff. What we got now.
Then you were a bad CW because a single CW could trivialise those scorpions in eLOL. Warlocks weren't needed, they were just the new thing and got all the hate. Really, stop trying. In fact tehre was no content in mod 4 that wasn't trivialized by one CW, who were able to solo the entire thing.
Really, do I need to dig up the videos of CWs actually proving they solo'd the epic instances, or how about the one of the two CW's that duo'd Epic CN? Let me put it this way, TT was useless on bosses unless the bosses spawned mass enemies, so it was not TT that killed the scorpions fast, as, unlike the myth from people, TT did not rebound on the target of the TT, and to make TT function at it's best you needed several enemies to get the bounce wave going back when everyones damage contributed to TT. So try again.
Godot cw was already down to earth being wildly outdpsed by gwf. I'm sure the clown above will disagree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXoWJUSmrVg
You were saying?
Btw CN soloing was much easier with SB warlock. It didn't require that high gear and weird setup.
In terms of DPS - a lot of GWFs at the same IL who out DPS me are using the Lostmauth set (which is currently like storm spell right now), so perhaps that will get a nerf, but who knows when? Likewise the TR's 100% crit chance in stealth while spamming CoS combined with the Lostmauth set, SO and piercing damage will likely be turned down.
Just imagine now what the SW went through with TT, and more recently the OP with DJ. I think those last two were bigger nerfs to power than our Storm Spell. Now might be a time for experimenting other class features.
Who know MOF may become the new CW build, will have to see.
It does not compute.
TRs were fine with CWs. I cold kill almost any CW with my TR.
The biggest complainers were pvp GWFs.
No need to nerf the lost set. You cant compare GWF and CW. Two different classes and two different ways of fighting. GWF cant controll anything. He is a full dps class. So why nerf any dps set? No need.
Every class solo´d CN in kindergarden mod 5.
Do that type of comments with game handler please next time!
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TR is the best in PVP and also for PVE DPS so yeah, clearly CW needs to be nerfed...
Did i miss something? TRs best for PVE DPS? huh?
It might be less painfull than it seems. And for those who talk about quiting because 1 too powerfull passive is nerfed, please go on and leave.
I honestly find it funny though that this turned into a cw v sw discussion xD.
And i love to have CWs in my grp that thinking the same. Controll CWs are awesome for the grp.
I would love to see the paingiver list, when you are with a good geared crit GWF in a Grp.
Yep. Thats really funny ^^
Ive seen a few. Maybe they didnt fraps it. But i was in some grp,where GFs or HRs need ppl to fill up grp to solo CN.