Good job for completely breaking PVP.

ofnieslaf

PVP is COMPLETELY broken now. I do absolutely no damage or child-level damage without a FireWheel. Paladins and Clerics are MORE immortal than before. Wheras TR class is a click-fest, clicking while bursting everyone down with piercing damage. I've never played a PVP where I was as frustrated and pissed off as this one.

I'm going to be selling my Transcendent enchantments, rank 12's, banked artifacts and tons of RP for ONLY 10 (ten) AD in the Auction House in the upcoming days. So be on the look-out.




Regards

rebellionstuff

what class do you play? i disagree with the unbalance part but i do agree with how we arent doing any damage. i mean when my daily with 45% resistance ignored does only 6k crit to a squishy person with some tenacity that sucks. i know cw's arent supposed to be damage dealers but if im doing this low damage how are other classes doing? tr's of course got put on a whole other level of powerful because of this. piercing damage mixed with saboteur perma stealth i cant touch them still and they can still kill me easily usually i try to run away and a lot of times end with me killing myself in game.

pando83

Increasing the weight of tenacity was needed. Fights are more tactical and less pew pew pew die.
But the math behind was wrong and as usual they overdid it.

Plus, until they fix negation, you will always have the PvP population divided in 2 tiers: Negation users and non-negation users.

And until they fix piercing damage or delete it from PvP, TRs will always overperform. EVERYTHING must respect tenacity. No exceptions.

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gomok72

pando83 wrote: »

Increasing the weight of tenacity was needed. Fights are more tactical and less pew pew pew die.
But the math behind was wrong and as usual they overdid it.

Plus, until they fix negation, you will always have the PvP population divided in 2 tiers: Negation users and non-negation users.

And until they fix piercing damage or delete it from PvP, TRs will always overperform. EVERYTHING must respect tenacity. No exceptions.

I had a Rogue tell me yesterday that Rogues were nerfed in the ground, after he 3-4 shot my GWF from stealth with a 60k and another 50k damage from Lostmauth. Even though I have a Rogue and enjoy daggering people to death in full tenacity gear from stealth, I beleive Rogues should not be the "invisible" killer class within the game. Their defense should be going into stealth not staying in stealth and daggering another class to death.

I also have a CW and have found that they are problematic in them self do to their damage to survivability which is "High and medium high". They should actually do something like SWTOR the old republic and make it where ever class has a base tenacity on all gear from level 10-70 with those in PvP open world having a advantage. I don't know, I just do my daily now since hitting 70 and that's about all I do in PvP with this game, GCrush as others have pretty much destroyed the fun with class balance and PvP in this game.

vasdamas

Yes, and GF lands 15k non crit at-will at me and 40-50k bullcharge while I do 6k max damage against them. I think I've never seen worse abomination than that...

drkbodhi

That is what Trans Negation will give you.

I watched, while I was attempting to kill him, as a OP ignored the golems and attacked us. His health bar dipped 1/5 during the whole fight. Every single one of the golems was attacking him as were 4 other players. Granted... he had his tanky DC buddy hanging out with him.

But still... this is getting out of control. Negation needs a NERF. If they do not... all of their effort to make mobs stronger and the game harder... has been wasted.

quspiv

You might want to look at some other SW's who still do quite well in pvp.

vasdamas

quspiv wrote: »

You might want to look at some other SW's who still do quite well in pvp.

They do fine until they run into crapalanche/avalanche or BiS GF/GWF happened on their node. Even perma daze HR isn't a big issue, those suffer as much now since all they got is daze and close to zero dps lol
And there isn't big room for utility too. Because, apparently, almost all rank 4s of SW powers don't work and many encounters just went broke with the recent patches. Either no curse consume/synergy/crit or just no weapon enchantment effect.

quspiv

vasdamas wrote: »

They do fine until they run into crapalanche/avalanche or BiS GF/GWF happened on their node lol Even perma daze HR isn't a big issue, those suffer as much now since all they got is daze and close to zero dps lol

Every class have some weakness, but some have more If you dislike pvp with SW you might want to reroll to something else, since you already have the most expensive gear, so just lvls and boons left. (boons you might actually get from the Zen store)

vasdamas

quspiv wrote: »

Every class have some weakness, but some have more If you dislike pvp with SW you might want to reroll to something else, since you already have the most expensive gear, so just lvls and boons left. (boons you might actually get from the Zen store)

Lmao
It seems like you're missing my point or just thinking the person you're talking to is a scrub forum warrior that never done PvP on their SW. "Every class have some weakness, but some have more" excuse me, there is a huge difference between weakness and the class mechanics that work against you most of the time. Wondering if you ever had 70% DR and got oneshot got melted with a ****ty boon proc/aura interraction with DoT/ armor enchantment multiproc within like 2 seconds max.
But I bet you're just floating around some mediocre lvl with that gear. It's not hard to build a SW to slay PvE pugs you run into a couple of times, now wonder they get positive impression after that.

I invested...now we invested into our SW class and we won't roll some pos that is just broken as **** atm just because our class gets ignored by devs and only we get is nerfs and broken powers. And now, I am not going to roll a paladin to solo 3 man dungeons lmao...why did I even bother.

quspiv

vasdamas wrote: »

Lmao
It seems like you're missing my point or just thinking the person you're talking to is a scrub forum warrior that never done PvP on their SW. "Every class have some weakness, but some have more" excuse me, there is a huge difference between weakness and the class mechanics that work against you most of the time. Wondering if you ever had 70% DR and got oneshot got melted with a ****ty boon proc/aura interraction with DoT/ armor enchantment multiproc within like 2 seconds max.
But I bet you're just floating around some mediocre lvl with that gear. It's not hard to build a SW to slay PvE pugs you run into a couple of times, now wonder they get positive impression after that.

This is mmo mate you can either adapt, leave or complain until things get changed. Many of us player at least 2-3 toons just to be safe when Cryptic screw up. Not everybody uses this boon and if they do it's not because they want to counter SW but because many of the last rank boons is very weak and outdated.

Take some break, come back with fresh mind and enjoy NWO with different class. Perhaps you will start to like this game again.

rayrdan

I sold part of my equipment on monday
Never logged back. I see hopes but i learnt to do something else meanwhile
For now im watching a tv series called carnival

thedemien

quspiv wrote: »

This is mmo mate you can either adapt, leave or complain until things get changed. ...
Take some break, come back with fresh mind and enjoy NWO with different class. Perhaps you will start to like this game again.

well thing is - this game proven itself as bad investment of time and money. Cause devs will without a slight hesitation brake it anyway in the way you least expect. Enjoy it if you can but don't hesitate to drop it.

rayrdan wrote: »

I sold part of my equipment on monday
Never logged back. I see hopes but i learnt to do something else meanwhile
For now im watching a tv series called carnival

making AD with professions on gateaway. playing witcher in free time.

Edit: this is not a call to leave post. so don't fk it up pls.

lichdrow

http://www.ffxiv-freetrial.com/us/

A Game where the dev's have a guild, play and are logged in always and take care of problems on the server [ Balmung ]

rayrdan

thedemien wrote: »

well thing is - this game proven itself as bad investment of time and money. Cause devs will without a slight hesitation brake it anyway in the way you least expect. Enjoy it if you can but don't hesitate to drop it.



making AD with professions on gateaway. playing witcher in free time.

Edit: this is not a call to leave post. so don't fk it up pls.

Indeed im not leaving i dont want to follow the ah so i monetized a couple of things with the actual prices

norsemanx

quspiv wrote: »

This is mmo mate you can either adapt, leave or complain until things get changed. Many of us player at least 2-3 toons just to be safe when Cryptic screw up. Not everybody uses this boon and if they do it's not because they want to counter SW but because many of the last rank boons is very weak and outdated.

Take some break, come back with fresh mind and enjoy NWO with different class. Perhaps you will start to like this game again.

This. I've never played anything but a TR or HR in pvp. I was a TR during the gimp hard times, and after a long time of frustration finally gave up and made an HR. Now they are gimp.

Whenever I get a build I like, they change things to make it no good. I find a class I like, they nerf it. I finally get decent gear (I've rarely ever been close to BiS) they make it even more obsolete.

I usually leave for a while, then come back and mess around.

Roll an HR and feel the pain.

mirrorballs

norsemanx wrote: »

This. I've never played anything but a TR or HR in pvp. I was a TR during the gimp hard times, and after a long time of frustration finally gave up and made an HR. Now they are gimp.

Whenever I get a build I like, they change things to make it no good. I find a class I like, they nerf it. I finally get decent gear (I've rarely ever been close to BiS) they make it even more obsolete.

I usually leave for a while, then come back and mess around.

Roll an HR and feel the pain.

So pick a class you like and stick with it, instead of following the next FotM every time.

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schietindebux

by rayrdan
I sold part of my equipment on monday
Never logged back. I see hopes but i learnt to do something else meanwhile
For now im watching a tv series called carnival

TV series come and go, that will ceep you busy for 5 days on your chair

I think it should be obvious with all the hellish looks and infernal powers. The SW needs to be the most powerful debuffer in the game, the curses need to be feared. SW should be able to cut DR in half, that wont mean much vs a weakling with 10% DR but will mean alot vs a capped DR guy. SW should be able to cut damage in half, to be able to suppress enemy healing to a point it becomes negative. Give them something like that and we'll have a nice new mechanic added to PVP/PVE and a counter to all immortal DCs and Paladins ( my own included )

the kings of debuff is GF atm .... triple mark
yes give us these powers and be the next focus of crying posts