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Guardian Fighter- double dmg from encounters?

obsydian666obsydian666 Member Posts: 329 Arc User
edited May 2015 in PvP Discussion
Hi, i have a question for all of you becouse i noticed something strange about GF. Ok let us ignore the fact that the GF's dmg is crazy now, i noticed on my last recorded video from fight against GF- probably double dmg from encounters?

Here is video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDbM6yKnqHw&spfreload=10

Watch carefully

-11 sec. there is bull charge- main damage 9654 + 8611 from what? bull charge is 1 hit without something extra damage

next

-20 sec. anvil of doom- look there is main damage- 32692 + some extra damage 35061?

Can you tell me why i can see GF's enocunters can hit twice? We suppose it could be lostmauth set effect but is it possible that this set can hit even more than encounter? i mean 32k anvil and 35k proc from set? We made a short test yesterday and lostmauth set could hit max half of anvil damage ( or even less). Or is it effect of some feats, or bug...whatever? Thanks for answers and explanation
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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    obsydian666 wrote: »
    Hi, i have a question for all of you becouse i noticed something strange about GF. Ok let us ignore the fact that the GF's dmg is crazy now, i noticed on my last recorded video from fight against GF- probably double dmg from encounters?

    Here is video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDbM6yKnqHw&spfreload=10

    Watch carefully

    -11 sec. there is bull charge- main damage 9654 + 8611 from what? bull charge is 1 hit without something extra damage

    next

    -20 sec. anvil of doom- look there is main damage- 32692 + some extra damage 35061?

    Can you tell me why i can see GF's enocunters can hit twice? We suppose it could be lostmauth set effect but is it possible that this set can hit even more than encounter? i mean 32k anvil and 35k proc from set? We made a short test yesterday and lostmauth set could hit max half of anvil damage ( or even less). Or is it effect of some feats, or bug...whatever? Thanks for answers and explanation

    This CW again........

    Go play another class but your overboosted fat Cuntroll wizard and then you will maybe learn looking at logs/your opponent's buff/debuffs Icons first before posting videos so people don't need to guess it for you. I can clearly see he has "the wheel of elements" artifact depression there so it must be fire element and nothing else. It's piercing damage and takes numbers from pre-mitigation damage and if you didn't encounter anyone abusing it before that match - I pity you and really encourage to l2p.
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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    If the numbers proc separately, which I didn't catch on the video btw, but idk, if they did proc separately, it should be on your combat logs. If you could paste what it's called, we'll know what to tell you. The damage from wheel is only 30% and it says "Your Wheel of Elements: Fire deals xxxx" so that won't be it. If it didn't actually double proc, and just plain increased damage, maybe Knight's Challenge? Does that even still exist yet? Sorry I haven't played GF for a long time.

    PS: to @vasdasmas, that's actually one solid CW who doesn't have a L2P issue. I've faught him a couple of times, but he probably doesn't remember me 'cause I avoided him the whole match lol
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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    rustlord wrote: »
    PS: to @vasdasmas, that's actually one solid CW who doesn't have a L2P issue. I've faught him a couple of times, but he probably doesn't remember me 'cause I avoided him the whole match lol
    Well, okay, but you wasn't there for that 60 pages long "CW is gonna be OP as heck" and other countless threads he stepped in with his videos trying to take the arrows out of his class. And I met far more skilled CW out there that actually read forums, test everything, got some knowledge of the current viable PvP things and try counter them SUCCESFULLY. The class is capable of beating anything really.

    Also, thanks for that 'OMG LIGHTNING IS SO OP FOR SW" back then, rustlold. Too bad not all bought that <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
    Misery's SW Fury Soulbinder PvP guide
    WTB Class Reroll please
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Its wheel of elements
  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    rayrdan wrote: »
    Its wheel of elements

    Complete with Pat Sajak and Vanna White.
    balls: I'd like to buy a "F", Pat.
    Pat: Ok, please turn the "F"s, Vanna!
    balls: I'd like to buy a vowel
    Pat: ...ok, what is it?
    balls: I'd like to buy "E"
    Pat: There is in fact, an "E"! Please turn the blocks Vanna, thank you.
    balls: I'd like to solve the puzzle, Pat...
    Pat: Okay, here we go, and the answer is.....?
    balls: It's "FEKKING FIX THE GODDARN OP WHEEL, ALREADY"
    Pat: We have a winner!!
  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »
    Well, okay, but you wasn't there for that 60 pages long "CW is gonna be OP as heck" and other countless threads he stepped in with his videos trying to take the arrows out of his class. And I met far more skilled CW out there that actually read forums, test everything, got some knowledge of the current viable PvP things and try counter them SUCCESFULLY. The class is capable of beating anything really.

    Also, thanks for that 'OMG LIGHTNING IS SO OP FOR SW" back then, rustlold. Too bad not all bought that <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.

    Um, because that was a bug, properly reported and fixed? Ok, you two obviously have issues to resolve. Get a room. Don't get me in the middle of it xD
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  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    rustlord wrote: »
    Um, because that was a bug, properly reported and fixed? Ok, you two obviously have issues to resolve. Get a room. Don't get me in the middle of it xD

    ...you gotta meet it's an intriguing thought.
  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    mirrorballs wrote: »
    ...you gotta meet it's an intriguing thought.

    Rain check :D
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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The wheel will be fixed sooner or later, like kessel spheres' oneshot or valindra's shard CC piercing or cancellation with shift. It's just...the time takes to fix issues like this seem to take too long sometimes. And those are getting well documented and reported daily.
    rustlord wrote: »
    Um, because that was a bug, properly reported and fixed? Ok, you two obviously have issues to resolve. Get a room. Don't get me in the middle of it xD
    Oh of course...lightning was a bug...nice try though.
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  • obsydian666obsydian666 Member Posts: 329 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »
    This CW again........

    Go play another class but your overboosted fat Cuntroll wizard and then you will maybe learn looking at logs/your opponent's buff/debuffs Icons first before posting videos so people don't need to guess it for you. I can clearly see he has "the wheel of elements" artifact depression there so it must be fire element and nothing else. It's piercing damage and takes numbers from pre-mitigation damage and if you didn't encounter anyone abusing it before that match - I pity you and really encourage to l2p.

    You know...i am not crying- Nerf tank he is OP, i am asking becouse i don't know what is that. You have right, i haven't got combat logs during this pvp, but later i was in ICD with tank and we were testing things but not wheel of elements, and if people have right with this artifact then I would not even imagined it could make so big numbers of dmg becouse in my language version, there is description : "+30% bonus to dmg" so i supposed it should be lets say: 10k main dmg +30% from WoE =13k dmg, and what can i see on this movie it's 32k from anvil and 35k from WoE? Thats crazy, and is it even possible? it should be 30% not 110%?

    Take it easy, i am only asking, this is why we have a forum :0
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    obsydian666 wrote: »
    You know...i am not crying- Nerf tank he is OP, i am asking becouse i don't know what is that. You have right, i haven't got combat logs during this pvp, but later i was in ICD with tank and we were testing things but not wheel of elements, and if people have right with this artifact then I would not even imagined it could make so big numbers of dmg becouse in my language version, there is description : "+30% bonus to dmg" so i supposed it should be lets say: 10k main dmg +30% from WoE =13k dmg, and what can i see on this movie it's 32k from anvil and 35k from WoE? Thats crazy, and is it even possible? it should be 30% not 110%?

    Take it easy, i am only asking, this is why we have a forum :0
    Its a bug. That anvil should hit 110k pre mitigation..which is ******ed too howeever wheel then takes 30 percent of that 110k and deals 35k as piercing damage.
    Regardless the need for it to be fixed wheel of the element would still be overpowered as few things in game. I would esaily expect a hard nerf.
    Its the main reason coupled with paladin opness for me to stay away from pvp for this module.
  • UnknownUnknown
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  • obsydian666obsydian666 Member Posts: 329 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Thank you for clarification, i think it is all clear now.
  • hypervoreianhypervoreian Member Posts: 1,036 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    That damage in the video is actually low.
    way less than....

    [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 1397 (4838) Arcane Damage to you with Entangling Force.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 781 (4677) Physical Damage to you with Lostmauth's Vengeance.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 7352 (44030) Cold Damage to you with Icy Rays.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 1634 (4838) Arcane Damage to you with Entangling Force.[Combat (Self)] Psycho Mantis deals 8732 (13821) Arcane Damage to you with Assailant.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 5137 (13513) Arcane Damage to you with Repel.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 1439 (3785) Physical Damage to you with Lostmauth's Vengeance.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 1634 (4838) Arcane Damage to you with Entangling Force.[Combat (Self)] Psycho Mantis deals 568 (1618) Arcane Damage to you with Warped Magics.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 2408 (6335) Physical Damage to you with Lostmauth's Vengeance.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 2051 (5397) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 8483 (22315) Lightning Damage to you with Storm Spell.[Combat (Self)] Cannot perform while disabled.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 8972 (23602) Lightning Damage to you with Storm Spell.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Psycho Mantis deals 2238 (5889) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost.

    Two storm spells procs with in 2 seconds?

    talking about double procs....

    And i posted a log.Cryptic should check CWs passive 25k procs every 1 sec .

    And about the video: i saw a near BiS GF struggling with a Cw,dealing as the same Cw says "incredible " damage,but CW health is steadily at 90% while GF is near death.Talking about tankiness...
  • hypervoreianhypervoreian Member Posts: 1,036 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    More about Cws double procs.I don't know how storm spell work?But it is WAi to proc sometimes 2 times with in 2-3 secs?WAI or not it is cheap gameplay and should be fixed.

    ...[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Obsydian666 deals 1306 (4794) Arcane Damage to you with Entangling Force. [Combat (Self)] You cannot use this power. [Combat (Self)] You cannot use this power. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Obsydian666 deals 5129 (14618) Lightning Damage to you with Storm Spell. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Obsydian666 deals 1130 (3222) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Obsydian666 deals 5266 (15008) Lightning Damage to you withStorm Spell. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Obsydian666 deals 1479 (4794) Arcane Damage to you with Entangling Force. [Combat (Self)] You cannot use this power....

    And nothing personal with the OP,i just do a question cause really i don't know if storm spell is wai to proc every 2 secs.
  • obsydian666obsydian666 Member Posts: 329 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    hypervoreian wrote: »
    More about Cws double procs.I don't know how storm spell work?But it is WAi to proc sometimes 2 times with in 2-3 secs?WAI or not it is cheap gameplay and should be fixed.

    ...[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Obsydian666 deals 1306 (4794) Arcane Damage to you with Entangling Force. [Combat (Self)] You cannot use this power. [Combat (Self)] You cannot use this power. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Obsydian666 deals 5129 (14618) Lightning Damage to you with Storm Spell. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Obsydian666 deals 1130 (3222) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Obsydian666 deals 5266 (15008) Lightning Damage to you withStorm Spell. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Obsydian666 deals 1479 (4794) Arcane Damage to you with Entangling Force. [Combat (Self)] You cannot use this power....

    And nothing personal with the OP,i just do a question cause really i don't know if storm spell is wai to proc every 2 secs.

    Sorry but you are talking about nerf for Storm Spell while our encouters hit for 1400?:)
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  • benskix2benskix2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    obsydian666 wrote: »
    Sorry but you are talking about nerf for Storm Spell while our encouters hit for 1400?:)

    You have other encounters besides EF, some do a lot of damage, but of course you don't need to use them because you can just hold a mouse button down and win most of the time.
  • obsydian666obsydian666 Member Posts: 329 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    benskix2 wrote: »
    You have other encounters besides EF, some do a lot of damage, but of course you don't need to use them because you can just hold a mouse button down and win most of the time.

    Yea, you saw on movie "op pro mega unkillable super tanky CW hitting 100k every proc from SS and hitting 500k from desintegrate" being almost 2 shotted by "tank". This isn't thread about CWs and i told earlier there is everything clear already so please stop posting:)
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