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Oathbound Paladin

obsydian666obsydian666 Member Posts: 329 Arc User
edited May 2015 in PvP Discussion
2 good geared CWs (full legends, r10/11/12) with companions vs Oathbound Paladin without full pvp set and companions...ejnoy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGyKgvbVHIk&spfreload=10

Nerf pls d(^.^)b
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  • UnknownUnknown
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  • overdriver13overdriver13 Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    There was so much overpowered going on in that video at the same time that I thought a rip in the fabric of our dimension must surely soon occur.
  • schweifer1982schweifer1982 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,662 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    obsydian666 wrote: »
    2 good geared CWs (full legends, r10/11/12) with companions vs Oathbound Paladin without full pvp set and companions...ejnoy...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGyKgvbVHIk&spfreload=10

    Nerf pls d(^.^)b

    OK russans agan.

    This guy have mythic stuff and he died also he have trans neg cant even move so ? What do y want ? DC can do this to .

    Poor healdin CWs agan want to nerf somone .

    Bruhuhu I cant oneshot someone with my CW bruhuhu.
    OMG really .
    GWF 3700Ilvl Éjsötét & ProPala 3200Ilvl Menydörgés (main) & Szürkefarkas 2600 ilvl
  • atriaratriar Member Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    So if i interpret your words correctly;

    "I could barely kill a tanky guy who was solely focusing on to defend himself so nerf it. It is true that he could not lay even a finger on me and he was not even close to scrach my spell shield, but if i can not one shot a tanky healer than it is overpowered."

    l2p pls d(^.^)b
  • ravenanravenan Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Becouse of opness of 1 class you guys cant see the opness of other? All out defencive paladins can nearly 1 shot every one exept maybe CW, thats not right and DC cant do it so your arguments are invalid.

    ps.
    schweifer1982 wrote: »
    OK russans agan.
    Whats wrong with you? Your english is far from perfect but you try to take nationality as argument? And no, They are not Russians, they are Poles.
    Main : GF - Lord Kruk
    Steel and Magic
  • greatweaponarmygreatweaponarmy Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    kk let's nerf Paladin after they nerf Shield.

    Deal?

    I'm starting to dislike you piece of sh*t CW's as much as TR's now.
  • quspivquspiv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Tanks should be hard to kill, they just shouldnt deal burst dmg. That's why Judgement needs nerf in pvp. Other than that it's fine imo.
  • suddenlyslowsuddenlyslow Member Posts: 818 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    overdriver13 wrote: »
    There was so much overpowered going on in that video at the same time that I thought a rip in the fabric of our dimension must surely soon occur.

    lol! Quite right and too darned funny when you think on it.
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  • blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    i dont even have a pally above level 19 and i know this shows pallys arent op its a stalemate. its fair. and besides all it shows is that cws are op being secondary strikers dealing way more damage than any hr.
  • obsydian666obsydian666 Member Posts: 329 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Yes my little haters, i am CW and i want to kill Paladin in 1 shot from Storm Spell like every other classes, thats my dream...

    Seriously, you just can't stand that you are wrong becouse you are thinking that the CW can smash everything in 5 seconds and what we have here 2/3 vs 1 ;)

    All i want is balanced pvp, but to be honest situation in Neverwinter PvP is worse than ever...

    PS. MR. schweifer1982...next time, Think twice before you write something :)
  • blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    obsydian666 wrote: »
    Yes my little haters, i am CW and i want to kill Paladin in 1 shot from Storm Spell like every other classes, thats my dream...

    Seriously, you just can't stand that you are wrong becouse you are thinking that the CW can smash everything in 5 seconds and what we have here 2/3 vs 1 ;)

    All i want is balanced pvp, but to be honest situation in Neverwinter PvP is worse than ever...

    PS. MR. schweifer1982...next time, Think twice before you write something :)

    but the cw can smash everything in 5 seconds. well maybe not 5 seconds but eventually. we all want balanced pvp but pally cant do **** for damage besides a extremely broken daily.
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    macjae wrote: »
    They definitely need to fix a lot of things about OPs. I've run into similar scenarios: An OP that barely took any damage, tanked/healed through anything while he had an aura on that inflicted constant dazes/disables/roots, and could occasionally fire off a daily that inflicts massive damage.

    Now, it is broken that CWs can freeze OPs through their block, but that just masks all the things about OPs that are broken. It's actually fine if they are a virtually immortal tank that can't be killed 1v1, but they should be killable 2v1, and they can't have significant damage output.

    The fact that other classes have broken/overpowered things too should not be used as a defense of OPs being even worse in some regards.

    That said, I still think we need more experience dealing with the class, but it looks pretty clear that some substantial changes are needed. It could be some equivalent of DC righteousness -- less self-heals, reducing the burst of the daily but increasing constant damage a bit, especially for the DPS-oriented feat path, fixing the offhand aura bonuses so they don't constantly daze (seems a big issue at least for dot-based classes).

    From a gameplay perspective, the class seems to be designed to be too passive. It stands around and blocks/heals through everything you throw at it while it passively procs disabling effects to make it annoying to play against, then occasionally does a massive spike of damage but otherwise feels completely non-threatening.

    The daze from off-hand was already fixed last patch.
  • revovlerjesus1revovlerjesus1 Member Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Every class should die in a 2on1, and yes CW is to stronk atm too :) That 2 CWs cant take down 1 OP is just plain dumb and gamebreaking.
  • blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    revovlerjesus1 wrote: »
    Every class should die in a 2on1, and yes CW is to stronk atm too :) That 2 CWs cant take down 1 OP is just plain dumb and gamebreaking.
    but but but the pally cant even hurt you.
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  • blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    clonkyo1 wrote: »
    What i do not get is why almost all players, while doing PvP test or even when doing PvP matches to post them here, do not rec the ****ing "combat log" window instead of their ****ing "chat" window. Is that hard to do so? Because is pretty easy for me to do so while i am doing either PvP tests or matches.

    cause that would require thought.
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  • schweifer1982schweifer1982 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,662 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    obsydian666 wrote: »
    Yes my little haters, i am CW and i want to kill Paladin in 1 shot from Storm Spell like every other classes, thats my dream...

    Seriously, you just can't stand that you are wrong becouse you are thinking that the CW can smash everything in 5 seconds and what we have here 2/3 vs 1 ;)

    All i want is balanced pvp, but to be honest situation in Neverwinter PvP is worse than ever...

    PS. MR. schweifer1982...next time, Think twice before you write something :)

    OFC

    1., l2p your CW, CW is the most OP class in the game not even 5 bis ppl cant kill it if he can play and have good gear to(Trans NEG+Shild on tab +Rene).

    2., first ask for nerfing you own skill Shild & Disintegration 4 sec CD biggest single target dmg in game .

    3., we are haters? CWs are the most arrogant ppl in the game if they cant one shot someone they come to forum and open some really stupid threat "Same like this " and ask for nerf and i have enugh of y and all your crying childrens&babys.

    In your vid you killed the poor guy hou cant even counter you two what is OP on him ?
    What do y want to nerf ? Negation her gear cuz he ower geared you two.
    This vid show only the CW is ******ed OP and nothing more .

    PS: nerf req are aganst the forum rules!
    GWF 3700Ilvl Éjsötét & ProPala 3200Ilvl Menydörgés (main) & Szürkefarkas 2600 ilvl
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    macjae wrote: »
    They (supposedly) fixed it so it doesn't go through cc immunities. It still inflicts constant dazes on (at least) dot-based classes, and that's still broken as heck, on par with HR dazes. It needs an ICD or something.

    Now it dazes less often, doesn't bypass immunity and gets reduced by cc resist. It's nowhere near HR dazes. I dueled a Paladin yesterday and got dazed like 3 times within a minute or so. Or either I didn't really notice... Either way, it's nowhere near HR near-perma dazes. Considering that Paladin has basically no reliable CC powers, I find it fair enough.
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  • nwoun1nwoun1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Pally is definitely over the top right now. I'd like to add Divine Protector to the list, which should respect LoS with a 50' range similar to KV.
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  • nwoun1nwoun1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Yeah I mean if people fail to see that Multi-OP setups will be mandatory really soon don't know what to say. If both teams feature three OPs each, who is going to ever win?
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    macjae wrote: »
    It's not necessarily as broken as TRs last module, but it does come close. We'll be seeing troll teams of 3 OPs + two DPS classes soon enough. The three OPs just sit each on one node, the DPS classes run from node to node to clear.
    Oh my god why did you tell them :X
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  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    macjae wrote: »
    What class did you fight it on? On my SW, I was *constantly* being dazed. It's not fine, nor fair.

    On my paladin with PF equipped and aura of courage slotted. Which means on each at will attack I did 5 hits.
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Aura of truth + offhand feature against SW or any other DPS with DoT. Just permadaze them and then oneshot with Divine Judgement. Way to go, can't kill it, can't CC it since not even prones work, it oneshots you once it got enough AP. Even killing BIS faithful DC isn't as difficult as killing an OP sometimes.
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    WTB Class Reroll please
  • schweifer1982schweifer1982 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,662 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    macjae wrote: »
    I'd say OP and TR are more likely contenders. CWs are in the running, though.



    And despite that, two of them could not kill an OP in any reasonable time.



    Maybe look at the message rather than the messenger.



    It shows that an OP cannot reasonably be killed by two players of -- the by your description most overpowered class -- in any reasonable amount of time. It's fine and fair if an OP can stalemate a single player; the OP can't kill the CW, the CW can't kill the OP. Being able to tank two players indefinitely is too much, though.

    It's not necessarily as broken as TRs last module, but it does come close. We'll be seeing troll teams of 3 OPs + two DPS classes soon enough. The three OPs just sit each on one node, the DPS classes run from node to node to clear.

    Sorry but i just see X2 BAD pve CW's using Repel to brust him down lol .

    This vid is from a child hou need to learn his class nothing more .
    Pro tip CW=CONTROLL WIZARD learn your strengths.

    Bah just a few bad player hou think if they stole her mother's credit card and then they can kill any one.
    Now the first player hou they dont killed with 1 Disintegration need to be nerfed .
    I dont even have healer pladin but the CW community sux and blessed with cryers .
    Now they picked agan somone or some class .

    This will never end CWs pick somone and nerf it to the ground .

    Just look at SW thnx to the many cryer CW's hou cant stand they where beaten in DPS.
    I tell y one thing CW IS NOT PRIMARY STRIKER CLASS!!!!
    Another one CW IS NOT TANK!
    Another one CW IS NOT HEALER!

    Learn your role and accept it gd.
    GWF 3700Ilvl Éjsötét & ProPala 3200Ilvl Menydörgés (main) & Szürkefarkas 2600 ilvl
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Tested AoT with macjae and I confirm that the offhand feature is still bugged:

    1. Dazes too often. Can daze multiple times in a row.
    2. Works even at 80' range while by logic it should work only within AoT reach.
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