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T3 & T4 hoard

kaknoepkaknoep Member Posts: 27 Arc User
edited February 2015 in General Discussion (PC)
Would it hurt to put some more or better value refining stones in the rank 3 and 4 loot of Tiamat (1500 & 2500) ones ??.
Im trying like so many of us level their artifacts but at this rate ill be 109 yrs old when they are lvl 99, do we realy need another useless epic item?, or a Dragon Set item (from what ive seen) many players only use 2, because the bonus from the T2 ( +450 Arp, Crit, Power etc) is just to good to miss.

Im spending ZEN for dragon hoard keys, but with 3 chars (1 i dont play anymore) couse it just takes to **** long to even get artifacts to lvl 60.
Im not asking here for.... i want it fast and easy or next week, takes time for artifacts ..FINE.. but i realized it will take me about 6 -8 months at this rate.
Losing interest like this, and after about 100 Tiamats, im sure i can't take another 100.

Ill add that with giving *useless EPics* all that is acomplished is flooding the game with items..that suppose to be *Epic* ... and should not be easily bought from AH.. no wonder and im sorry to say this, very few people are doing Dungeons these days.
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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    kaknoep wrote: »
    Would it hurt to put some more or better value refining stones in the rank 3 and 4 loot of Tiamat (1500 & 2500) ones ??.
    Im trying like so many of us level their artifacts but at this rate ill be 109 yrs old when they are lvl 99, do we realy need another useless epic item?, or a Dragon Set item (from what ive seen) many players only use 2, because the bonus from the T2 ( +450 Arp, Crit, Power etc) is just to good to miss.

    Im spending ZEN for dragon hoard keys, but with 3 chars (1 i dont play anymore) couse it just takes to **** long to even get artifacts to lvl 60.
    Im not asking here for.... i want it fast and easy or next week, takes time for artifacts ..FINE.. but i realized it will take me about 6 -8 months at this rate.
    Losing interest like this, and after about 100 Tiamats, im sure i can't take another 100.
    magenubbie wrote: »
    Welcome to the discussion.

    Just to add to what magenubbie said, if you are running a 2/2 bonus rather than a 4pc, you're doing things wrong to increase your dps. The 4pc sets on the good item sets will beat these everytime, and Draconic Templar gear is not a good set.
  • kaknoepkaknoep Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Im using 2 draconic set items, and doing it wrong is just an opinion.. but agree that Draconic set is not good.
    But this post is about the T3 - T4 rewards, wich imo could use some more refining stones or straight up AD (5000-10000).. for the casuals among us..
  • katamaster81899katamaster81899 Member Posts: 1,157 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    kaknoep wrote: »
    Im using 2 draconic set items, and doing it wrong is just an opinion.. but agree that Draconic set is not good.
    But this post is about the T3 - T4 rewards, wich imo could use some more refining stones or straight up AD (5000-10000).. for the casuals among us..


    Ok. So let me clarify:
    - Your want free AD for an hourly encounter that can be easily botted and AFKed at campfire.
    - You want better RP drops for content that provides the same rewards to AFKers and Botters.

    Also. Doing it "wrong", is not just an opinion. It has been proven that 4/4 sets are ALWAYS better than 2 2/4 sets.

    450 Stat points < Set Bonus

    The players who choose to wear 2 2/4 sets are either
    - GS snobs
    - New players that don't know better.
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  • evaliraevalira Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    charononus wrote: »
    Draconic Templar gear is not a good set.

    It's a good set for the GF. Even though I haven't got it because Tiamat is a **** and won't drop it, yet it throws it at my CW. I have had draconic templar robes about 10 times, even twice when it was T1 so maybe it is bugged cos I got two pieces of gear.
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    evalira wrote: »
    It's a good set for the GF. Even though I haven't got it because Tiamat is a **** and won't drop it, yet it throws it at my CW.

    Well GF and TR are my weakest classes knowledge wise. I honestly have no idea for those two classes, though I still debate it compared to some T1/T2 sets.
  • w00trandomsnoobiw00trandomsnoobi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 387 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    T3 & T4 hoard's are really rare and it's disappointing to get a coin pouch and minor resonance stone, I've gotten better rewards from T1 loss. I understand that everyone can't get a great prizes all the time, but I think it wouldn't be to OP to have the lowest prize from T3 to be at least a green resonance stone.
  • zshikarazshikara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    katamaster81899 wrote: »
    Ok. So let me clarify:
    - Your want free AD for an hourly encounter that can be easily botted and AFKed at campfire.
    - You want better RP drops for content that provides the same rewards to AFKers and Botters.

    Also. Doing it "wrong", is not just an opinion. It has been proven that 4/4 sets are ALWAYS better than 2 2/4 sets.

    450 Stat points < Set Bonus

    The players who choose to wear 2 2/4 sets are either
    - GS snobs
    - New players that don't know better.

    I'm a dps cleric that uses 2 2/4 sets because none of the 4/4 set bonuses increase my dps at all. They are all healing based, so I went with raw stats.
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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    zshikara wrote: »
    I'm a dps cleric that uses 2 2/4 sets because none of the 4/4 set bonuses increase my dps at all. They are all healing based, so I went with raw stats.

    Except that you will never do as much personal dps as the increase in party dps from using a t1 set. HP. The increase from that 4pc is such a huge increase for the party that it blows your personal dps out of the water.
  • ulvielulviel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 741 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    zshikara wrote: »
    I'm a dps cleric that uses 2 2/4 sets because none of the 4/4 set bonuses increase my dps at all. They are all healing based, so I went with raw stats.

    Actually, using HP set should make you deal more or less same dmg as 2/2 or any t2 set, because the buff works for you too ;)

    When I switched to it long time ago I've noticed no dmg decrease even tho I lost ca 1k gs.

    But that was a bit off topic. About Tiamat loot, I think we should get at least green resonance stone for a win, white ones are simply not adequate, but can be kept as consolation prize I guess.
  • pointsmanpointsman Member Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Here is a thought:
    Put in the Zen chest (which you only get after a victory anyway) a chance at a Blood Ruby or a Brilliant Diamond. Most times I don't use the Zen chest key because the stuff in there is not worth the Zen I paid to get the key. But I would absolutely use a key for either one of those two items. Make it BOP or BOA if you wish.

    And this can't be botted unless bots are running around with tons of Zen keys, which I doubt.
  • myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    charononus wrote: »
    Just to add to what magenubbie said, if you are running a 2/2 bonus rather than a 4pc, you're doing things wrong to increase your dps. The 4pc sets on the good item sets will beat these everytime, and Draconic Templar gear is not a good set.

    I like the Templar set. My opinion. At least it works for the build I prefer on my TR,
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  • query523query523 Member Posts: 1,515 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    myowmyow wrote: »
    I like the Templar set. My opinion. At least it works for the build I prefer on my TR,

    Not bad on HR either. Little less power than CBI but better set bonus and crit.
  • aulduronaulduron Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,351 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I second putting better stuff in the chest. Currently, nothing in them is worth the 20K it costs to make the key. I never use my keys. A dragon Egg, that I often get for losing, is better than everything that is in the chest. It's also better than everything else we get for a win, except Linus.
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