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Serious bug: TR Bloodbath + Shady Preparations

kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
edited October 2014 in NeverwinterPreview - Feedback/General Discussion
※ Making a seperate thread, in hopes that the developers simply do not miss this bug among the pile of complaints in the feedback thread.


Feedback: SERIOUS BUG/ABUSE associated with the feat [Shady Preparations]

The Saboteuer feat [Shady Preparations] cuts down cooldown time by 10% each time you enter stealth. However, this applies to every power you have on your tray, including artifacts.

Naturally, this is open to abuse/exploit by repeating powers/actions that can trigger repeated stealth.

Observe:



Case#1: Stealth - Mount(Stealth cancel) Abuse
    In this case, it is a well known fact that mounting during stealth cancels your stealth action and returns you to normal state.
By repeated steal - mounting, the cooldown of my artifact can be forcibly shortened considerably.

Bloodbath-mount abuse: http://youtu.be/4xvkGnSmNXc



Case#2: Bloodbath Abuse

    This was captured on film by pure chance, and it is shuddering to think nobody might have discovered it. What this film shows, is a fact I've only now discovered that Bloodbath actually repeatedly puts you in and out of stealth during its activation. The flashy animations
aren't just asesthetic -- it actually puts you in and out of stealth.

By activating Bloodbath, your artifact is immediately recharged and ready for use.

Bloodbath-artifact abuse: http://youtu.be/quN6cxPnHbg

Now.. I couldn't present this visually because I myself don't have it, but imagine this shuddering scenario where you have one of those DC artifacts which recharges your AP to full....!!!

※ Notes: it may also be possible that it is not BB that puts you in and out of stealth, but rather it works in the way that the feat [Knife's Edge], which reduces cooldowns by 15% when activating a daily, is triggered by a daily power hitting the target. In this case the oversight would be BB is a multi-hit daily.

Whatever the case, the use of BB will recharge all your powers and artifact almost instantly -- it would be a straight-forward power spamming abuse if this makes it to live. This is obviously not WAI. The developers MUST seek to correct this.

And I know for a FACT there are a few people who knew of this besides myself, and decided to just keep it under wraps to abuse it if it ever goes live, without explaining anything to the victims of this abuse and covering it up as some 'secret build' or 'skill'. Shame on those people.
Stop making excuses. Be a man.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
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Comments

  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I love how BB intract with those feats.
    Resetting all cooldown is really good and with tr beibg the lowest AP generator class i dknt think that this is OP by any means.

    The easiest fix is to dont let this work on artifacts. Basically to change the feat in encounters cooldowns rather than all cooldowns
  • gerbilhurdlergerbilhurdler Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 418 Bounty Hunter
    edited October 2014
    rayrdan wrote: »
    I love how BB intract with those feats.
    Resetting all cooldown is really good and with tr beibg the lowest AP generator class i dknt think that this is OP by any means.

    The easiest fix is to dont let this work on artifacts. Basically to change the feat in encounters cooldowns rather than all cooldowns
    If it has artifacts on instant cooldown, then wouldn't it also make all encounters instant cooldown as well?
    Not sure I understand it , but if TRs have encounters with no cooldown it may be a little OP?
  • reiwulfreiwulf Member Posts: 2,687 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    well it's probably not WAI but at least you can't really spam bloodbath, it's a daily. The mount-stealth abuse though can be spammed.
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  • demonmongerdemonmonger Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,350 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    reiwulf wrote: »
    well it's probably not WAI but at least you can't really spam bloodbath, it's a daily. The mount-stealth abuse though can be spammed.

    You do not need to worry about this.
    You cannot mount stealth in combat.
    You cannot do mount stealth (rapidly) in 20v20 pvp or 5v5 pvp.
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  • demonkyuubidemonkyuubi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    kweassa wrote: »
    Case#2: Bloodbath Abuse

      This was captured on film by pure chance, and it is shuddering to think nobody might have discovered it. What this film shows, is a fact I've only now discovered that Bloodbath actually repeatedly puts you in and out of stealth during its activation. The flashy animations
    aren't just asesthetic -- it actually puts you in and out of stealth.

    i actually learned yesterday that it's more complex. bloodbath actually puts you in and out of combat which sucked during dragon skirmish boss when he fully healed and the dragons respawned
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