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Why not make 2x refinement permanent?

manzillaprimemanzillaprime Member Posts: 49
edited September 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
(At least for artifacts). Let's face it - They take a ridiculously high amount of RP to refine, and it feels good as a player to be able to make some progress toward refining some of your gear. I saw that progress over this past weekend, and the reality that I will now have to go back to 1x refining values is depressing me. Rich players will have their legendary artifacts with or without the bonus, so you are looking at the more casual or less wealthy players. Those players will still have to work at leveling up their artifacts with 2x refinement, and will likely still never see legendary status.

I see little downside to leaving it as 2x rather than 1x. If the intent of this event was to take some of the excess AD out of the market, that was accomplished. Leaving it as 2x, will likely continue this trend of spending AD on refining items, albeit at a slower rate. Rich/hardcore players will still have their oranges, and the more casual players will have hope that one day they may be able to see some orange.

If there is a downside that I am not seeing, what is it?
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  • ashnvfashnvf Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    (At least for artifacts). Let's face it - They take a ridiculously high amount of RP to refine, and it feels good as a player to be able to make some progress toward refining some of your gear.

    If there is a downside that I am not seeing, what is it?

    Or at least have 2x refinement once a month. I agree artifacts require ridiculous amounts of RP to refine.
  • burkaancburkaanc Member Posts: 2,186 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    double refinement should be permanent, its so depressing to try and get 150k points/lvl without it, even with x2 its depressing lol

    especially considering how much stuff new players will need to refine, when i started it was just enchants, now its artifacts, weapons, belts. if not for smth else just think about ppl health. refining can cause serious injury
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  • cynogeniccynogenic Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    It would definitely refining aspects of the game alot faster and better in my opinion. But seeing how this might go, it probally wont be permanent. But it would be nice if they have 2x refining every weekend or they added 2x refining as a rotating event along with dungeon delves and arena pvp events.
  • doriangreighdoriangreigh Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 707 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ashnvf wrote: »
    Or at least have 2x refinement once a month. I agree artifacts require ridiculous amounts of RP to refine.

    I agree, after this weekend it is clear that the RP value of items should be twice what they are ... but i'd happily settle for 1/month or 1/quarter event like this ... really awesome if this would be ongoing from time to time ... maybe even to happen around holidays :).

    Artifacts, espeically the artifact weapons are way to difficult and time consuming to refine. I spent more time refining the artifact weapon than playing the game it seems.
  • rollingonitrollingonit Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Once a month or once a quarter would be nice. Arti's take awhile for most players. And I assume they will expand and start making more arti equipment.
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  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I think they just need to make it more user friendly. Ie being able to use stacks to refine, some convenient way to refine belts etc.
  • adinosiiadinosii Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,294 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Bad idea.....a permanent event like that would make the gear inflation even worse than it is. No...one weekend per year is just ideal.
    Hoping for improvements...
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  • katamaster81899katamaster81899 Member Posts: 1,157 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Yes +1 to this, would make rare and epic artifacts actually plausible for all 11 of my alts XD
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  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    (At least for artifacts). Let's face it - They take a ridiculously high amount of RP to refine, and it feels good as a player to be able to make some progress toward refining some of your gear. I saw that progress over this past weekend, and the reality that I will now have to go back to 1x refining values is depressing me. Rich players will have their legendary artifacts with or without the bonus, so you are looking at the more casual or less wealthy players. Those players will still have to work at leveling up their artifacts with 2x refinement, and will likely still never see legendary status.

    I see little downside to leaving it as 2x rather than 1x. If the intent of this event was to take some of the excess AD out of the market, that was accomplished. Leaving it as 2x, will likely continue this trend of spending AD on refining items, albeit at a slower rate. Rich/hardcore players will still have their oranges, and the more casual players will have hope that one day they may be able to see some orange.

    If there is a downside that I am not seeing, what is it?

    Disagree. What I WOULD be in favor for is DOUBLING the RP for ALL purple items.


    Purple RP stones: DOUBLED

    Purple gear: DOUBLED

    WHY?

    Why should players give incentive for buying/farming greens/blues and not purples?
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ayroux wrote: »
    Disagree. What I WOULD be in favor for is DOUBLING the RP for ALL purple items.


    Purple RP stones: DOUBLED

    Purple gear: DOUBLED

    WHY?

    Why should players give incentive for buying/farming greens/blues and not purples?

    If they doubled it I still wouldn't use it. Even the purples that can only be salvaged I'd probably prefer to salvage them when I'm currently at 200k salvage overload.
  • rabbinicusrabbinicus Member Posts: 1,822 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I would like this to come with a more refined refining interface. The number of clicks it takes to refine artifacts, particularly with epic gear, make it an exceptionally time-consuming and frankly frustrating activity. Unfortunately, I think that might be intentional in order to "encourage" people using the Zen store to purchase blood rubies and such, but it is not an enjoyable process and as player unfriendly as the still unaddressed issue with the professions delay.
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  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I would love to see the "Fill All Slots" button automatically put the 5 lowest value items in there. That would be a step in the right direction.
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