Relentless Curse and the likes

fizbad

Relentless Curse: When a target affected by Warlock's Curse is killed, a nearby target has a 100% chance to be affected whith a Lesser Curse

This feat currently seems to proc not only off of Warlock's Curse, but also off of Lesser Curse. Along these lines, it should be noted that all our class features that state they proc off of Warlock's Curse also proc off of any curse.

I can't quite tell whether this is broken or WAI, given that the Lesser Curse description says it "counts as a curse for curse interaction effects". Seems unlikely this is WAI though, but I can't find it in the know issues either, although it's pretty blatant.

Do we have word on this? Is this something we should expect to get fixed in the future, or is it just as intended, with sloppy wording of descriptions all around?

cayapp

There are several things that can proc lesser curses, check to see if you do or do not have any of those feats?

fizbad

cayapp wrote: »

There are several things that can proc lesser curses, check to see if you do or do not have any of those feats?

I don't see how that's relevant to the fact that Relentless Curse procs on Lesser Curse while the description clearly says it's supposed to proc off Warlock's Curse. The same is true about Dark One's Blessing, and possibly for Warding Curse (although the effect wouldn't be immediately obvious).

This is either the case of broken descriptions or broken skills, and I was just wondering whether anyone knows one way or the other.

cayapp

Why do I even bother trying to be nice on here anymore. Let me put it another way...how are you sure what is proc'ing lesser curse? Do you happen to have any other feats that can proc lesser curse? If So what are they?

I assume you posted because you wanted some help with understanding? Maybe I was wrong. If you do we need more information on your ENTIRE set up and build.

fizbad

Relentless Curse is pretty much the only feat that procs Lesser Curse on mob death. But for what it's worth, I had no other LC triggers at the time, either.

I've been observing this phenomenon for a while -- both on RC and on Dark One's Blessing. DOB's behavior, for one, is really easy to discern in the combat log (i.e., it will proc with regularity even in fights where I have used no WCs whatsoever).

I'm sorry if I came off rude, but it's pretty clear to me that the issue here is not whether this is happening, but rather whether it is as intended. The wording of how LC "counts as a curse for curse interactions" is somewhat vague -- though I don't suppose anything that explicitly mentions "[targets] cursed with WC" as opposed to "cursed [targets]" falls under this category.

I was just trying to see whether it's an acknowledged issue -- either in terms of wording or in terms of a bug in the proc. It seems though that everyone else knows just as much as I do.

cayapp

Could you post a screen shot or list out all your feats? Myself, Kolamaster and others did some pretty extensive during preview testing, however we could not test every possibity. As far as I know, and talked to a couple of others this morning from preview, this is an unknown.

However would like to test it out, but will not be able to until the beginning of the week. One thing I will say is that tooltip wording is not to be taken at face value. We all on preview constantly question tooltips. Generally we are told the tool tip is wrong, however it hardly get changed or takes months. Take that with a grain of salt.

Before it can be reported as a bug or a typo ;-) it needs to be checked out. WHat I have found is reporting an issue works best when I can provide complete and full details.

If you cannot do a screen shot, please list out all your feats and how many points are in each. Just the feat side. I do really need to know you whole build out. I know your concerned about what the tooltip is stating and what you are seeing.

It has not been brought up in public anyway.

fizbad

It's been a couple of levels since I first noticed it. This is what I had selected back at that point: http://nwcalc.com/sw?b=p7j:46pxr:5m9s,19iiu0f:60000:6y000:60000&h=0&p=hlb.

Easiest way to observe: Throw Infernal Spheres, clean out a cursed mob with HoB. My observations are that (1) a lesser curse will proc on a close mob even though it shouldn't, and (2) if Dark One's Blessing is slotted, the combat log will show life gain.