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It looks like DC and TR will get their deserved love soon!

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  • adamy2004adamy2004 Member Posts: 226 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ulviel wrote: »
    I agree with all you said.
    I really don't care for any healing upgrades because of reasons you named, but I'm looking forward to see improved dmg, even if it'll be meaningless in a party, clerics really could use that for soloing. It could be a bit of a problem if I'll have to choose between dmg and buffs but... it's too early for that, how is the new suppose to loook like it yet to be seen.

    mabey for PVE content/dailies dungeons Etc.. you may want more damage, but in PVP DC's desperately need some form of CC removal/reduction, and increased healing.

    Without being able to sustain yourself 1v1 versus another class like GF/GWF/TR/HR what is the point of taking a DC to pvp?

    In pvp, a cleric will never do more damage then a gwf/cw/hr/tr, they wont debuff targets more then a CW or GWF, so the only thing that a DC has going for them is sustainability and healing allies.

    Im not saying a DC should be able to endlessly 1v2+ on a node, but atleast they need to be able to stalemate on a node indefinitely 1v1 or hold a node with an ally for a large portion of time 2v2 or more.

    But as it stands right now, DC's are killed by GF's, GWFs, HR's, Especially CWs (due to high burst damage from SS proc's and overall CC) Im not entirely sure about SW's, but the only class that i dont think is capable of killing a max geared DC atm is TR, unless they have red dragon glyphs and get lucky crits
    Don't waste my time.
  • anatas07anatas07 Member Posts: 164 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    Is NOT the HR that are OP ... the purified ice weapons are OP ...
    If you see this and have the answer - PM me or answer real quick because this post will be removed
  • harkurharkur Member Posts: 305 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    The howls of rage if healing ever became genuinely necessary in the group content of this game would be heard on Jupiter.

    Personally, I'm a fan of Trinity designs...and howls like that would be fun to listen to.
  • letojarred1letojarred1 Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    dc and tr thread, now it became nerf HR, before mod 3 buff HR! nerf GWF!!!
    geez
    StrawberryCheesecake TR
    BlackberryCheesecake CW
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    CheeseCake House :o
  • izidiusizidius Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 40
    edited September 2014
    All those without a TR or DC kindly find the nearest exit - thank you.
  • rollingonitrollingonit Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Happy I lvled my TR to 60 and maybe pull my DC out of retirement.
    We can pretend.
    Fox Stevenson - Sandblast
    Oh Wonder - Without You

    Do not go gentle into that good night.
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
    - Dylan Thomas
  • mxtimemxtime Member Posts: 316 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    izidius wrote: »
    All those without a TR or DC kindly find the nearest exit - thank you.

    oh yeah what is the name of your tr
  • adinosiiadinosii Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,294 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Just ignore this "mxtime" guy...it doesn't matter if he is 10 years old, or just trolling....just ignore him.
    Hoping for improvements...
  • aulduronaulduron Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,351 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    With fewer mobs that hit much harder, this module has made healing more important. Both my GWF and CW are doing much less damage in LoL and Shores, in part because of fewer mobs. That means less self healing from lifesteal. You can't fill your HP if Steal Time only hits 2 targets. My DC is in higher demand. Unfortunately, I can't heal 1 shot kills.
  • g0dfr3yg0dfr3y Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Lifesteal is a bad affix. It's great to have, obviously, but it's bad for the game... because with lifesteal, there is no tradeoff between offense and defense. You stack lifesteal and power and you have plenty of both. One of the best things they could do for DCs and any future healing classes is gradually phase out lifesteal.

    The other thing I'd like to see for DCs is a damage boost. Having two DCs in a party shouldn't be the kiss of death.
  • hefisdohefisdo Member Posts: 709 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    izidius wrote: »
    All those without a TR or DC kindly find the nearest exit - thank you.

    My DC is my alt but he's 12k GS am I one of the cool guys?
    (´・ ω ・`)
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    hefisdo wrote: »
    My DC is my alt but he's 12k GS am I one of the cool guys?

    GS is too low. Get GS. Only 16.1k GS can talk.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • velynnavelynna Member Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    mxtime wrote: »
    on basis of exploits u do u liar cheater and proly stealer to

    Seriously what THE HELL are you going on about?

    You said I was lying when I was pulling a direct quote from a developer's Twitter account on the basis of accusations about exploiting and cheating?

    #1 No, I wasn't lying, which was REAAAAAALLY obvious and easy to verify.
    #2 No, I don't exploit or cheat. If you see me doing any of that, feel free to report me in-game.
    #3 Sorry I somehow, at some point, managed to hurt your ego with my sad, harmless PvP DC, because that's clearly what this is about.
  • w00trandomsnoobiw00trandomsnoobi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 387 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    dc and tr thread, now it became nerf HR, before mod 3 buff HR! nerf GWF!!!
    geez

    It doesn't matter what the thread is about, it always somehow turns into HR bashing. Although it's sorta refreshing to see "HR is so OP" instead of "HR is so useless in dungeons".

    Anyway, I'm excited for my poor little TR, hopefully I won't have to feel horribly inadequate in the dungeons anymore.
  • ulvielulviel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 741 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    adamy2004 wrote: »
    mabey for PVE content/dailies dungeons Etc.. you may want more damage, but in PVP DC's desperately need some form of CC removal/reduction, and increased healing.

    Ah yes, I forgot something like pvp exists. I generally try to avoid this aspect of the game since it is a big pile of fertilizer, but yes, to make clerics viable there they need some sort of cc immunity, and better healing (removing rigteousness would do) or a really dramatic dps increase.
  • mxtimemxtime Member Posts: 316 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    velynna wrote: »
    Seriously what THE HELL are you going on about?

    You said I was lying when I was pulling a direct quote from a developer's Twitter account on the basis of accusations about exploiting and cheating?

    #1 No, I wasn't lying, which was REAAAAAALLY obvious and easy to verify.
    #2 No, I don't exploit or cheat. If you see me doing any of that, feel free to report me in-game.
    #3 Sorry I somehow, at some point, managed to hurt your ego with my sad, harmless PvP DC, because that's clearly what this is about.

    how many kills u have as a sad dc
    how did u aquire that kills
    sound like a cheat to me when dc has so much kills
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