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  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited June 2014
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    Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream.
    Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
  • silence1xsilence1x Member Posts: 1,503 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Great post Emilemo. Would you mind elaborating on your build a bit more (enchants used, feats, etc) in you SM path? I have been thinking about switching (will have to test SM on preview this weekend) but didn't want to do it blindly.
    I aim to misbehave
  • kattefjaeskattefjaes Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,270 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    emilemo wrote: »
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    Hey, while I disagree with or doubt a lot of the stuff you wrote, it was a great post which I enjoyed reading. Thanks for taking the time :)
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    My downfall in 1v1'ing a GWF is that even with healing depression, regen scales better on him. Once you've laid into him with your rotation and gain separation while on cooldown, his health ticks back at a faster rate than mine.

    I'm by no means the best skilled or geared GF out there so I won't rule out the possibility of an exceptionally well geared and well played GF being able to bring down a high end GWF, but those top tier GFs are far more rare than an ungodly GWF.

    Also, IBS is a difference maker. Once he's stacked his feats IBS tears into me and I have nothing that can do the same.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    silence1x wrote: »
    Great post Emilemo. Would you mind elaborating on your build a bit more (enchants used, feats, etc) in you SM path? I have been thinking about switching (will have to test SM on preview this weekend) but didn't want to do it blindly.

    My feats are pretty standard Conq feats ( with maximised AP gain ) the only thing Im still contemplating is 10% CD reduction to Encounters or 10% more dmg to encounters from WMS. Will have to test it out on preview, but I think I'll stick to CD reduction.
    Armor is lesser SF and Im building a greater Plague Fire for my weapon ( currently its normal PF ). I've tried the GF with Vorpal but even with nearly 3000 crit rating its not reliable so I i stick to PF.

    Keep in mind I dont have a bis GF and by the looks of things even my 17K Destroyer cant be considered bis since Ive seen GWFs with 10k more HP than me and around the same offensive stats. Also I dont claim to be an elite PVP player or anythin' like that. You can say Im still learning how to play the GF and my current style is influenced by my GWF. Also this is all PVP and solo PVE talk, since my GF has very little T2 party experience.
    Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream.
    Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Lets be clear, as things stand now the GF is inferior compared to a GWF and thats that. Whatever we say, whatever we do and whatever our PVP/PVE results may be we always keep that fact in mind.
    Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream.
    Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    emilemo wrote: »
    Lets be clear, as things stand now the GF is inferior compared to a GWF and thats that. Whatever we say, whatever we do and whatever our PVP/PVE results may be we always keep that fact in mind.

    That I wont argue not in any capacity!
    Shieldbash 60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard 19.0k
    Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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    ~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
  • aethanasaethanas Member Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    emilemo wrote: »
    Lets be clear, as things stand now the GF is inferior compared to a GWF and thats that. Whatever we say, whatever we do and whatever our PVP/PVE results may be we always keep that fact in mind.

    The funny thing is the GF was once in a situation the GWF is now: he was able to kill enemies in one rotation or two with ease; then the Devs forced him more and more into a supporting class* and at the same time they try to enhance the damaging classes that they do not need supporting classes to be successful, but sadly the Devs have apparently no urge to enhance the supporting classes in the near future that they become an alternative to a simple brute-force tactic by which you simply stack damaging classes.
    So, maybe there were changing employees at work and noone had the whole overview and every one tried to enforce the global ideals of the classes but none tried hard enough to get sufficient insight into the actual interplay of the classes.


    *He had better capabilities to dish out damage and survived long enough to be a threat, then they took away these capabilities and never strengthened his survivability nor gave options to strengthen it in any relevant way.
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    emilemo wrote: »
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  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Sentinel - PvE - LEEROY JENKINS!!!
    Sentinel - PvP - LEEROY JENKINS Jr.!!! ALL GWFS!
    Destroyer - PvE - Dakkon Blackblade
    Shieldbash 60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard 19.0k
    Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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    ~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
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