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johnjohniiijohnjohniii Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 108 Arc User
edited June 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
So, I've got about 400k in the exchange at 499 and 500 per zen and haven't sold them yet. Normally they go within minutes. Also, I'm getting "no data available" under the top zen listings. Anyone else having this issue and know what's going on?

Thanks.
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  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Check the sell zen tab. There's 1m zen listed that people want to buy. There's just not enough people selling. Kind of annoying, I just got a zen coupon ):
  • johnjohniiijohnjohniii Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    wow, didn't notice. thanks for the heads up.
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    :)
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  • orsogufoorsogufo Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    It's a bit of time that goes on like this. Can someone try to fix it somehow?
  • ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 996 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The exchange has been this way for some time. Too many ADs and too few ZEN, inflation is bad... we need a big AD sink or things will not get any better.
  • kattefjaeskattefjaes Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,270 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    The exchange has been this way for some time. Too many ADs and too few ZEN, inflation is bad... we need a big AD sink or things will not get any better.

    ..or less need to spend Zen, conversely. Supply-side is not the only mantra.
  • ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 996 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    kattefjaes wrote: »
    ..or less need to spend Zen, conversely. Supply-side is not the only mantra.

    I don't think "less need to spend Zen (real money)" is acceptable for Cryptic :P
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    The exchange has been this way for some time. Too many ADs and too few ZEN, inflation is bad... we need a big AD sink or things will not get any better.

    They could also just cut the prices of the current AD sinks to encourage spending. For a start, more transmutes in the Wondrous Bazaar at a lower price. There is no way that I am plowing 3.1 million AD into transmuting.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • spongebob56spongebob56 Member Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I will sell Zen if they change the cap to 1000 ad per Zen.
  • ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 996 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I will sell Zen if they change the cap to 1000 ad per Zen.

    If they do, it would mean that they just give up on balancing the game economy. When that happens, it usually means a game is nearing its end of support and it takes too much to keep the game balance under control. It would be terrible news.
  • adinosiiadinosii Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,294 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I will sell Zen if they change the cap to 1000 ad per Zen.

    Very unlikely to happen.

    There are players who bought a lot of Zen and converted it into AD @500 - and are now sitting on millions of AD, waiting for the exchange rate to drop again. If the exchange rate ceiling is increased those players would lose big time....and they are among those who spend most real $$$ on the game.

    I really doubt they want to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> off that part of the player base....don't kill the whales ;)
    Hoping for improvements...
  • kattefjaeskattefjaes Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,270 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    I don't think "less need to spend Zen (real money)" is acceptable for Cryptic :P

    Possibly not, though they seem to be achieving that one right now- the Coalescent Wards change has killed the rate of lockbox opening :)
  • goldmember7goldmember7 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 36
    edited June 2014
    kattefjaes wrote: »
    Possibly not, though they seem to be achieving that one right now- the Coalescent Wards change has killed the rate of lockbox opening :)

    They could put the Coalescent Wards for AD on the WB. It would be a good sink of AD so people do not only spend their AD for converting to Zen, and make it more favourable to buy Zen for real money and trade it for AD to get wards. I am assuming that 500:1 is not ideal for the Perfect World, if it was Cryptic would not have put that barrier at that value.
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  • thegrandexenothegrandexeno Member Posts: 239 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    kattefjaes wrote: »
    ..or less need to spend Zen, conversely. Supply-side is not the only mantra.

    This will make the game shut down in a painful way (no devs = no fixes no content for months, then death)
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  • iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    we need a big AD sink or things will not get any better.

    We are getting the mysterious egg event in a couple of days , that should wipe a fair bit of AD away.
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  • mircalla83mircalla83 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 36
    edited June 2014
    Unless the resulting Companions are BoA, it will drain AD - and then have the 'Whales' that caused the need for AD sinks relist them at high cost, ending up in the same position (or better off), with the rest being poorer.
  • silence1xsilence1x Member Posts: 1,503 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Capitalism, whether IRL or here, favors those that have the means to invest. I'm not saying it's good or bad; just an observation.

    I don't see Cryptic fixing this any time soon unless they see a bunch of people stop logging in for a month or os. By that time, Mod 4 will almost be out so they'll just wait for the temporary resurgence.
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  • thegrandexenothegrandexeno Member Posts: 239 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    mircalla83 wrote: »
    Unless the resulting Companions are BoA, it will drain AD - and then have the 'Whales' that caused the need for AD sinks relist them at high cost, ending up in the same position (or better off), with the rest being poorer.

    ^ this this and...this :=)
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  • myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I will sell Zen if they change the cap to 1000 ad per Zen.

    Wow! 1000 AD per Zen. We casual gamers can't work with that, although the MANY no-lifers out there would surely eat it up . . .
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  • onecoolscatcatonecoolscatcat Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 575 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Not sure if Cryptic is letting the backlog build up only to release a self renewing tidal wave of inflation, or freezing the exchange while they try to work out a solution. Either way, they need to communicate their intentions to the playerbase on this issue.
  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    thestaggy wrote: »
    They could also just cut the prices of the current AD sinks to encourage spending. For a start, more transmutes in the Wondrous Bazaar at a lower price. There is no way that I am plowing 3.1 million AD into transmuting.

    Dropping the cost of mount upgrade books by half, for instance (so that they actually cost less than just exchanging the AD and buying an account-wide zen mount), would probably result in more people dropping AD to upgrade their pretty-but-slow mounts. Just a thought. Could be wrong. /shrug

    One problem with AD sinks is that they have to be more useful/desirable than what you can do with an equivalent amount of exchanged zen. Whenever I go to spend AD on something, I always have the thought "Ok, but is this more important than what I could do with <amount of AD/500> zen?"

    Star Trek Online's dilithium exchange has had a low exchange rate for a long, long time... because that game has huge things you need to do with dilithium (their version of AD). Like upgrading your guild starbase/embassy/etc. Or paying for the fancy gear projects you've unlocked in the reputation campaigns - in that game, instead of unlocking a new epic dungeon via rep & running it for gear drops, you unlock the ability to produce the fancy new gear set.... but it costs a bunch of dilithium & campaign currency. The part where you only refine 8k dilithium a day (rather than 24k diamonds), and the auction house runs on gold instead of AD, probably has some effect as well.
  • spongebob56spongebob56 Member Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    adinosii wrote: »
    and are now sitting on millions of AD, waiting for the exchange rate to drop again. If the exchange rate ceiling is increased those players would lose big time....

    So you are saying Cryptic should bend over backwards to ensure a handful of people can continue gaming the system? As for them being big spenders: I highly doubt it. Many (if not all) of them exploited the system at every corner to get where they are at today. When you hear of some of these individuals buying up lots of keys to open lockboxes you can rest assured they are NOT doing it by opening their wallet. So in summary I do not care if they take a big hit to their virtual stockpile.
  • kattefjaeskattefjaes Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,270 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    This will make the game shut down in a painful way (no devs = no fixes no content for months, then death)

    No it won't. It's all about what economists call "elasticity of demand". There are quite a few things on sale in the Zen store which would make a lot more if they were better value. The recent Coalescent Ward change pushed it in the wrong direction, further away from the equilibrium point where optimal revenue is achieved.
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    (no devs = no fixes no content for months, then death)
    So basically you're saying there's no devs :) (minus the death part which isn't happening quite yet but is a possibility at some point)
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