So, I've got about 400k in the exchange at 499 and 500 per zen and haven't sold them yet. Normally they go within minutes. Also, I'm getting "no data available" under the top zen listings. Anyone else having this issue and know what's going on?
Check the sell zen tab. There's 1m zen listed that people want to buy. There's just not enough people selling. Kind of annoying, I just got a zen coupon ):
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johnjohniiiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 108Arc User
The exchange has been this way for some time. Too many ADs and too few ZEN, inflation is bad... we need a big AD sink or things will not get any better.
The exchange has been this way for some time. Too many ADs and too few ZEN, inflation is bad... we need a big AD sink or things will not get any better.
..or less need to spend Zen, conversely. Supply-side is not the only mantra.
The exchange has been this way for some time. Too many ADs and too few ZEN, inflation is bad... we need a big AD sink or things will not get any better.
They could also just cut the prices of the current AD sinks to encourage spending. For a start, more transmutes in the Wondrous Bazaar at a lower price. There is no way that I am plowing 3.1 million AD into transmuting.
PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
I will sell Zen if they change the cap to 1000 ad per Zen.
If they do, it would mean that they just give up on balancing the game economy. When that happens, it usually means a game is nearing its end of support and it takes too much to keep the game balance under control. It would be terrible news.
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adinosiiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,294Arc User
I will sell Zen if they change the cap to 1000 ad per Zen.
Very unlikely to happen.
There are players who bought a lot of Zen and converted it into AD @500 - and are now sitting on millions of AD, waiting for the exchange rate to drop again. If the exchange rate ceiling is increased those players would lose big time....and they are among those who spend most real $$$ on the game.
I really doubt they want to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> off that part of the player base....don't kill the whales
Possibly not, though they seem to be achieving that one right now- the Coalescent Wards change has killed the rate of lockbox opening
They could put the Coalescent Wards for AD on the WB. It would be a good sink of AD so people do not only spend their AD for converting to Zen, and make it more favourable to buy Zen for real money and trade it for AD to get wards. I am assuming that 500:1 is not ideal for the Perfect World, if it was Cryptic would not have put that barrier at that value.
we need a big AD sink or things will not get any better.
We are getting the mysterious egg event in a couple of days , that should wipe a fair bit of AD away.
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mircalla83Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 36
edited June 2014
Unless the resulting Companions are BoA, it will drain AD - and then have the 'Whales' that caused the need for AD sinks relist them at high cost, ending up in the same position (or better off), with the rest being poorer.
Capitalism, whether IRL or here, favors those that have the means to invest. I'm not saying it's good or bad; just an observation.
I don't see Cryptic fixing this any time soon unless they see a bunch of people stop logging in for a month or os. By that time, Mod 4 will almost be out so they'll just wait for the temporary resurgence.
Unless the resulting Companions are BoA, it will drain AD - and then have the 'Whales' that caused the need for AD sinks relist them at high cost, ending up in the same position (or better off), with the rest being poorer.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!" pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all." looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
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onecoolscatcatMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 575Arc User
edited June 2014
Not sure if Cryptic is letting the backlog build up only to release a self renewing tidal wave of inflation, or freezing the exchange while they try to work out a solution. Either way, they need to communicate their intentions to the playerbase on this issue.
They could also just cut the prices of the current AD sinks to encourage spending. For a start, more transmutes in the Wondrous Bazaar at a lower price. There is no way that I am plowing 3.1 million AD into transmuting.
Dropping the cost of mount upgrade books by half, for instance (so that they actually cost less than just exchanging the AD and buying an account-wide zen mount), would probably result in more people dropping AD to upgrade their pretty-but-slow mounts. Just a thought. Could be wrong. /shrug
One problem with AD sinks is that they have to be more useful/desirable than what you can do with an equivalent amount of exchanged zen. Whenever I go to spend AD on something, I always have the thought "Ok, but is this more important than what I could do with <amount of AD/500> zen?"
Star Trek Online's dilithium exchange has had a low exchange rate for a long, long time... because that game has huge things you need to do with dilithium (their version of AD). Like upgrading your guild starbase/embassy/etc. Or paying for the fancy gear projects you've unlocked in the reputation campaigns - in that game, instead of unlocking a new epic dungeon via rep & running it for gear drops, you unlock the ability to produce the fancy new gear set.... but it costs a bunch of dilithium & campaign currency. The part where you only refine 8k dilithium a day (rather than 24k diamonds), and the auction house runs on gold instead of AD, probably has some effect as well.
and are now sitting on millions of AD, waiting for the exchange rate to drop again. If the exchange rate ceiling is increased those players would lose big time....
So you are saying Cryptic should bend over backwards to ensure a handful of people can continue gaming the system? As for them being big spenders: I highly doubt it. Many (if not all) of them exploited the system at every corner to get where they are at today. When you hear of some of these individuals buying up lots of keys to open lockboxes you can rest assured they are NOT doing it by opening their wallet. So in summary I do not care if they take a big hit to their virtual stockpile.
This will make the game shut down in a painful way (no devs = no fixes no content for months, then death)
No it won't. It's all about what economists call "elasticity of demand". There are quite a few things on sale in the Zen store which would make a lot more if they were better value. The recent Coalescent Ward change pushed it in the wrong direction, further away from the equilibrium point where optimal revenue is achieved.
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..or less need to spend Zen, conversely. Supply-side is not the only mantra.
I don't think "less need to spend Zen (real money)" is acceptable for Cryptic :P
They could also just cut the prices of the current AD sinks to encourage spending. For a start, more transmutes in the Wondrous Bazaar at a lower price. There is no way that I am plowing 3.1 million AD into transmuting.
If they do, it would mean that they just give up on balancing the game economy. When that happens, it usually means a game is nearing its end of support and it takes too much to keep the game balance under control. It would be terrible news.
Very unlikely to happen.
There are players who bought a lot of Zen and converted it into AD @500 - and are now sitting on millions of AD, waiting for the exchange rate to drop again. If the exchange rate ceiling is increased those players would lose big time....and they are among those who spend most real $$$ on the game.
I really doubt they want to <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> off that part of the player base....don't kill the whales
Possibly not, though they seem to be achieving that one right now- the Coalescent Wards change has killed the rate of lockbox opening
They could put the Coalescent Wards for AD on the WB. It would be a good sink of AD so people do not only spend their AD for converting to Zen, and make it more favourable to buy Zen for real money and trade it for AD to get wards. I am assuming that 500:1 is not ideal for the Perfect World, if it was Cryptic would not have put that barrier at that value.
This will make the game shut down in a painful way (no devs = no fixes no content for months, then death)
We are getting the mysterious egg event in a couple of days , that should wipe a fair bit of AD away.
I don't see Cryptic fixing this any time soon unless they see a bunch of people stop logging in for a month or os. By that time, Mod 4 will almost be out so they'll just wait for the temporary resurgence.
^ this this and...this :=)
Wow! 1000 AD per Zen. We casual gamers can't work with that, although the MANY no-lifers out there would surely eat it up . . .
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Dropping the cost of mount upgrade books by half, for instance (so that they actually cost less than just exchanging the AD and buying an account-wide zen mount), would probably result in more people dropping AD to upgrade their pretty-but-slow mounts. Just a thought. Could be wrong. /shrug
One problem with AD sinks is that they have to be more useful/desirable than what you can do with an equivalent amount of exchanged zen. Whenever I go to spend AD on something, I always have the thought "Ok, but is this more important than what I could do with <amount of AD/500> zen?"
Star Trek Online's dilithium exchange has had a low exchange rate for a long, long time... because that game has huge things you need to do with dilithium (their version of AD). Like upgrading your guild starbase/embassy/etc. Or paying for the fancy gear projects you've unlocked in the reputation campaigns - in that game, instead of unlocking a new epic dungeon via rep & running it for gear drops, you unlock the ability to produce the fancy new gear set.... but it costs a bunch of dilithium & campaign currency. The part where you only refine 8k dilithium a day (rather than 24k diamonds), and the auction house runs on gold instead of AD, probably has some effect as well.
So you are saying Cryptic should bend over backwards to ensure a handful of people can continue gaming the system? As for them being big spenders: I highly doubt it. Many (if not all) of them exploited the system at every corner to get where they are at today. When you hear of some of these individuals buying up lots of keys to open lockboxes you can rest assured they are NOT doing it by opening their wallet. So in summary I do not care if they take a big hit to their virtual stockpile.
No it won't. It's all about what economists call "elasticity of demand". There are quite a few things on sale in the Zen store which would make a lot more if they were better value. The recent Coalescent Ward change pushed it in the wrong direction, further away from the equilibrium point where optimal revenue is achieved.